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Re: GT: Nets Vs Celtics 1/12 7:30 

Post#121 » by MrDollarBills » Fri Jan 13, 2023 3:41 am

Hello Brooklyn wrote:So many dumb overreactions.

First game without KD and against an elite team. Give it a rest.

Lets see how the next few games go.


Seriously. We were pretty much in a back and forth with Boston until one bad stretch that took us out. If anything, I have confidence that we're not going to lose a lot of games with KD out.
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Re: GT: Nets Vs Celtics 1/12 7:30 

Post#122 » by Hello Brooklyn » Fri Jan 13, 2023 3:45 am

We got a lucky break with Philly and Milwaukee losing. Won't happen again. Need to win the next 2 to keep our seeding intact.
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Re: GT: Nets Vs Celtics 1/12 7:30 

Post#123 » by GTR11 » Fri Jan 13, 2023 3:51 am

Born_Ready wrote:For all of you cap folks, NBA trade minds, what is a realistic trade for Brooklyn to acquire OG Anunoby or Siakam from Toronto?

Not even sure if that type of trade is feasible, but I feel like it is going to take a player like them added to Brooklyn for the Nets to really overthrow the Celtics from the top.

We can unload a lot of salary by moving Joe and Seth, Cam is cherry on top that teams already willing to give up 1st rounder.

I hate to repeat myself over and over but, when OKC comes calling for player like Kess you got assets. Cam ain't no different, he will fetch us 1st for sure.

My question is. Where you see Saikam or OG on this team. They not improving us where we need most help. Which is shot blocking. I mean I'm sorry, Siakam definitely is an upgrade. Dude is flat out stud who can be #2 guy and replace Ben and give us more, but at what cost?

Ben and mid 1st rounder should be an upgrade for Siakam. It's just killing our momentum here imo.

Will I do this trade to take us over Saltics for quick 2 year window. Yes

It can definitely be done with few side moves like-> Seth for 1st or Kess/Cam which will do less of course. Moving Seth or Joe can open up lots of things. You can play with few picks and Ben around which will attract lot of attention. Siakam won't be far fetched to say least, can be had tomorrow.

Me personally, I'd explore trade for Isaac because I looking at the future. Dude looked great vs D league trash. Not where we need him to be, but he can give us Nic Claxton minutes in limited time now.

Kelly Olynik also can be had.

Again, start with moving Joe and Seth, can dingle Ben around too.

Than we only have Kyrie and KD salaries to that be eating space, rest of them guys vet min. Nic at 10 mil is a gold mine so he won't be moved.
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Re: GT: Nets Vs Celtics 1/12 7:30 

Post#124 » by OfficialRef » Fri Jan 13, 2023 4:44 am

Idk what got into Kyrie but he lost his mind in the 4th quarter. Just kept chucking, chucking and freezing out the other players.

With Durant out, Warren is the guy that will probably step up. Ben should be in theory but who knows with him.
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Re: GT: Nets Vs Celtics 1/12 7:30 

Post#125 » by Hello Brooklyn » Fri Jan 13, 2023 4:46 am

I just don't agree we need to make some big move.

Our biggest issue by far is rebounding.

Why?

Claxton sits and we have no other big. Then we get murdered on the boards.

Get me a backup Center. No more playing Simmons as the backup 5. Its dumb.
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Re: GT: Nets Vs Celtics 1/12 7:30 

Post#126 » by OfficialRef » Fri Jan 13, 2023 4:46 am

Team needs scoring. JV needs to play Cam in some of these scoring drought minutes. Helps to raise his trade value as well.

Cam, Seth, Joe all need to go. I don't really trust these guys or don't think they really contribute to championship ball.
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Re: GT: Nets Vs Celtics 1/12 7:30 

Post#127 » by CalamityX12 » Fri Jan 13, 2023 5:23 am

Claxton is playing so strong, full of confidence!!!! Appreciate you!

Harris needs to go... his role is to put pts on the board. Unfortunately as one of our better 3pt shooters supposedly he has that leverage

Was disappointed we ran no plays or sets in that 4th...fell off but it's understandable
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Re: GT: Nets Vs Celtics 1/12 7:30 

Post#128 » by CalamityX12 » Fri Jan 13, 2023 5:24 am

Oh yea I forgot we had Cam lol

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Re: GT: Nets Vs Celtics 1/12 7:30 

Post#129 » by Rastas » Fri Jan 13, 2023 6:37 am

Born_Ready wrote:For all of you cap folks, NBA trade minds, what is a realistic trade for Brooklyn to acquire OG Anunoby or Siakam from Toronto?

Not even sure if that type of trade is feasible, but I feel like it is going to take a player like them added to Brooklyn for the Nets to really overthrow the Celtics from the top.


Swing for the fences and ask for both for KD and Seth , then only one player left on the team to trade who panic's and turns into a Black Hole when the going gets tuff.
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Re: GT: Nets Vs Celtics 1/12 7:30 

Post#130 » by NetsJets » Fri Jan 13, 2023 7:10 am

That 4th quarter did us in tonight.
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Re: GT: Nets Vs Celtics 1/12 7:30 

Post#131 » by Gooner » Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:17 am

It will take some time to adjust to playing without KD, but comparing Nets without KD to Celtics without Brown, Celtics still have more guys that can create with the basketball. Brogdon, Smart, White, even Pritchard, they can all make plays and help Tatum. Nets don't have anyone outside of Kyrie who is a real threat off the dribble. Simmons can pass and he is great in transition, but against a set defense he is no threat to score and he showed it with this 0 point performance. It's just unacceptable for a guy with that size and athleticism to be so passive. With KD being out, that issue becomes much bigger.

Backup center is also the issue. Some of these lineups are just too small. Richaun Holmes is available, he would be a good fit for this team.
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Re: GT: Nets Vs Celtics 1/12 7:30 

Post#132 » by bubonicphoniks » Fri Jan 13, 2023 11:01 am

Gooner wrote:It will take some time to adjust to playing without KD, but comparing Nets without KD to Celtics without Brown, Celtics still have more guys that can create with the basketball. Brogdon, Smart, White, even Pritchard, they can all make plays and help Tatum. Nets don't have anyone outside of Kyrie who is a real threat off the dribble. Simmons can pass and he is great in transition, but against a set defense he is no threat to score and he showed it with this 0 point performance. It's just unacceptable for a guy with that size and athleticism to be so passive. With KD being out, that issue becomes much bigger.

Backup center is also the issue. Some of these lineups are just too small. Richaun Holmes is available, he would be a good fit for this team.
Sumner and Cam are threats off the dribble but didn't enter the game.
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Post#133 » by Gooner » Fri Jan 13, 2023 11:18 am

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Gooner wrote:It will take some time to adjust to playing without KD, but comparing Nets without KD to Celtics without Brown, Celtics still have more guys that can create with the basketball. Brogdon, Smart, White, even Pritchard, they can all make plays and help Tatum. Nets don't have anyone outside of Kyrie who is a real threat off the dribble. Simmons can pass and he is great in transition, but against a set defense he is no threat to score and he showed it with this 0 point performance. It's just unacceptable for a guy with that size and athleticism to be so passive. With KD being out, that issue becomes much bigger.

Backup center is also the issue. Some of these lineups are just too small. Richaun Holmes is available, he would be a good fit for this team.
Sumner and Cam are threats off the dribble but didn't enter the game.


One of them needs to play, yes.
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Post#134 » by GTR11 » Fri Jan 13, 2023 12:02 pm

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XtremeDunkz wrote:One thing Simmons always did on Philly is step up his scoring when embiid or Tobias were out. I'm surprised to see just how passive he will is with KD out.

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He ain't 100 yet. He just don't have that bounce speed.

Will be issue later in a season.

How 6's doing ?

Harden ain't Harden we know either from what I've seen

Harden had 24 points 15 assists tonight . Coming off back to back triple double doubles in the last three games. Harden is averaging 22 points 11 assists 7 boards this season.

Well what you failed to say is that he also stagnates offense and complete liability on D. Much bigger issue than Ben is right now.
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Re: GT: Nets Vs Celtics 1/12 7:30 

Post#135 » by GTR11 » Fri Jan 13, 2023 12:21 pm

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bubonicphoniks wrote:
Gooner wrote:It will take some time to adjust to playing without KD, but comparing Nets without KD to Celtics without Brown, Celtics still have more guys that can create with the basketball. Brogdon, Smart, White, even Pritchard, they can all make plays and help Tatum. Nets don't have anyone outside of Kyrie who is a real threat off the dribble. Simmons can pass and he is great in transition, but against a set defense he is no threat to score and he showed it with this 0 point performance. It's just unacceptable for a guy with that size and athleticism to be so passive. With KD being out, that issue becomes much bigger.

Backup center is also the issue. Some of these lineups are just too small. Richaun Holmes is available, he would be a good fit for this team.
Sumner and Cam are threats off the dribble but didn't enter the game.


One of them needs to play, yes.

It was given in a 2nd half once they focused on Ben and took him out the game. You can say he picked dumb fouls for no reason, thing is, Curry was liability in a 2nd half that let Ben into those situations. If them two clowns would've put Cam or Sumner, totally different ball game.

Curry unplayable vs Saltics period. JV/ Kokoskov failed to adjust after half time to Brogdan, let me repeat this again BROGDAN WHO IS WASHED UP BUM. Even trash like Pritch scored on him with ease.

Once Nic went to the bench, it was lay up fest. KD covered a lot before, now he won't be available for some time.

When BUM AZZ like Mazzulla being able to expose JV/Kokoskov, we in a world of trouble here. Depth can only take you that far.

Some here will wake up into harsh reality soon if those two clowns won't improve big time. I got huge doubts on that. Even with KD they showed their limitations. Now it will get magnified even more.

I don't hate Seth or Joe. During regular season they can be helpful, they just unplayable vs chip contenders or during PO. Limited minutes here and there maybe, but at what cost?
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Re: GT: Nets Vs Celtics 1/12 7:30 

Post#136 » by NetsWorld » Fri Jan 13, 2023 12:29 pm

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bubonicphoniks wrote:Sumner and Cam are threats off the dribble but didn't enter the game.


One of them needs to play, yes.

It was given in a 2nd half once they focused on Ben and took him out the game. You can say he picked dumb fouls for no reason, thing is, Curry was liability in a 2nd half that let Ben into those situations. If them two clowns would've put Cam or Sumner, totally different ball game.

Curry unplayable vs Saltics period. JV/ Kokoskov failed to adjust after half time to Brogdan, let me repeat this again BROGDAN WHO IS WASHED UP BUM. Even trash like Pritch scored on him with ease.

Once Nic went to the bench, it was lay up fest. KD covered a lot before, now he won't be available for some time.

When BUM AZZ like Mazzulla being able to expose JV/Kokoskov, we in a world of trouble here. Depth can only take you that far.

Some here will wake up into harsh reality soon if those two clowns won't improve big time. I got huge doubts on that. Even with KD they showed their limitations. Now it will get magnified even more.

I don't hate Seth or Joe. During regular season they can be helpful, they just unplayable vs chip contenders or during PO. Limited minutes here and there maybe, but at what cost?


All the Nets need to do is trim some fat and get bigger players and more impactful. Hint, Boston did it last year, Nets are gonna do the same. Some fat will get trimmed by trading away the players that hurt them and get players that help.
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Re: GT: Nets Vs Celtics 1/12 7:30 

Post#137 » by sashaturiaf » Fri Jan 13, 2023 1:00 pm

Meh, tonight was never going to be a win.

Build good habits, hopefully in this KD-less stretch we get the guys whos been underperforming offensively in a groove like Ben, Joe and to a lesser extent TJ. I'd rather build a team identity, move the ball and ride the hot hand rather than forceably try to keep playing our isoball style. It's just setting Kyrie, who despite all his gifts is a somewhat physically frail 6'1 guy up for failure. Guys like that can score in the NBA, but it's not usually in the 50/40/90 way that we expect out of Kai.
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Re: GT: Nets Vs Celtics 1/12 7:30 

Post#138 » by MrDollarBills » Fri Jan 13, 2023 1:26 pm

sashaturiaf wrote:Meh, tonight was never going to be a win.

Build good habits, hopefully in this KD-less stretch we get the guys whos been underperforming offensively in a groove like Ben, Joe and to a lesser extent TJ. I'd rather build a team identity, move the ball and ride the hot hand rather than forceably try to keep playing our isoball style. It's just setting Kyrie, who despite all his gifts is a somewhat physically frail 6'1 guy up for failure. Guys like that can score in the NBA, but it's not usually in the 50/40/90 way that we expect out of Kai.


Yep. With KD out, Kyrie trying to ISO our way to victory against the Celtics is a dumb ass idea.

Move the ball, get it back in the mid range while the defense is shifting. We did more to beat ourselves last night than the Celtics did.
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Re: GT: Nets Vs Celtics 1/12 7:30 

Post#139 » by MrDollarBills » Fri Jan 13, 2023 1:27 pm

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Re: GT: Nets Vs Celtics 1/12 7:30 

Post#140 » by Stone » Fri Jan 13, 2023 2:48 pm

I'm giving a pass to the Nets for last nights disappointing performance. Starting at the top, without our floor general KD this is a different team. It is going to take an adjustment period to build the confidence and trust we are going to need to compete against the leagues elite.

I was at the Clays last night for the Games. A lot of Celtics fans showed up. Although I have to admit some of them were comical in their comments about Ben and Kyrie. We have two more chances to play the Celtics both away games one on 2/01 and the other on3/03. At the moment they are the best team in the NBA and if we are going to have to go through them to get anywhere.
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