Should the Utah Jazz go for Josh Giddey?

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Should the Utah Jazz go for Josh Giddey?

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Re: Should the Utah Jazz go for Josh Giddey? 

Post#61 » by rocketsfan100 » Sat Jan 14, 2023 1:27 am

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rocketsfan100 wrote:I’ve come to the conclusion most of the people here bashing Giddy haven’t watched him play at all or just seen a few token games. The kid is the real deal

They probably don’t realize how good his shooting has been since December. I didn’t realize it until last week and I usually keep an eye on young guys in the box scores.

It’s because contrary to some of the comments here he is pretty good at attacking the bucket and finishing . He is really crafty at playing through contact with either a euro step or creating space by keeping his balance for a guy with such a slight build.
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Re: Should the Utah Jazz go for Josh Giddey? 

Post#62 » by payton2kemp » Sat Jan 14, 2023 1:28 am

tooler wrote:
rocketsfan100 wrote:I’ve come to the conclusion most of the people here bashing Giddy haven’t watched him play at all or just seen a few token games. The kid is the real deal

They probably don’t realize how good his shooting has been since December. I didn’t realize it until last week and I usually keep an eye on young guys in the box scores.


The kid is 20 barely into his 2nd year. People have no patience, and don't watch games.
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Re: Should the Utah Jazz go for Josh Giddey? 

Post#63 » by bradybunch » Sat Jan 14, 2023 3:09 am

Giddey saw this thread and decided to dominate tonight.
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Re: Should the Utah Jazz go for Josh Giddey? 

Post#64 » by AussieBuck » Sat Jan 14, 2023 3:11 am

Thread has a lot of second year Luka doubter energy.
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Re: Should the Utah Jazz go for Josh Giddey? 

Post#65 » by Devilanche » Sat Jan 14, 2023 3:18 am

SlovenianDragon wrote:realgm is funny Giddey and Banchero are the same age.

Giddey is the better player...

Realgm loves Banchero and thinks Giddey should be traded? lollll

Giddey isnt going anywhere.

Eh I love OKC and I love giddey . But Banchero is a better building block now and in the future as well.
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Re: Should the Utah Jazz go for Josh Giddey? 

Post#67 » by ThunderBolt » Sat Jan 14, 2023 3:30 am

Let’s be real. Giddey has a lower ceiling in most people’s eyes because he’s a pasty Aussie with boy band hair. I’m
not particularly interested in trading Giddey, especially for picks.
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Re: Should the Utah Jazz go for Josh Giddey? 

Post#68 » by DrCoach » Sat Jan 14, 2023 5:21 am

Why does OKC trade a 20 yr old 6’8 PG that they reached for again?
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Re: Should the Utah Jazz go for Josh Giddey? 

Post#69 » by slick_watts » Sat Jan 14, 2023 5:32 am

giddey has a lower ceiling because of his physical profile. he has poor athleticism and one of the worst wingspan to height ratios in the league. he has more mass than most guards which is the only thing he'll have going for him, and height to see over defenses to make passing lanes easier.

he is shooting well since december 1, unsustainably well (50/40/90 practically), and yet is slightly below league average scoring efficiency during that time. it's because %'s dont mean anything without the context of distribution. he's shooting 40% from three on limited attempts. 90% from the line on minimum attempts. the vast majority of his offense is 2pt shot attempts and those aren't particularly efficient for him, at least relative to the rest of the league.

maybe giddey crushes all expectations but i find this hot streak makes me skeptical of him even more, because i think almost any other player in the league shooting the %'s that giddey has been shooting since dec. 1 would be dominating.
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Post#70 » by Arlo » Sat Jan 14, 2023 5:44 am

slick_watts wrote:giddey has a lower ceiling because of his physical profile. he has poor athleticism and one of the worst wingspan to height ratios in the league. he has more mass than most guards which is the only thing he'll have going for him, and height to see over defenses to make passing lanes easier.

he is shooting well since december 1, unsustainably well (50/40/90 practically), and yet is slightly below league average scoring efficiency during that time. it's because %'s dont mean anything without the context of distribution. he's shooting 40% from three on limited attempts. 90% from the line on minimum attempts. the vast majority of his offense is 2pt shot attempts and those aren't particularly efficient for him, at least relative to the rest of the league.

maybe giddey crushes all expectations but i find this hot streak makes me skeptical of him even more, because i think almost any other player in the league shooting the %'s that giddey has been shooting since dec. 1 would be dominating.


Poor athleticism yet great vision and feel for the game, and movescwell in traffic.

Poor wingspan but one of the best rebounders for his position who racks up blocks and steals.

His shot is clearly improving and he's working with the best in the business. The fact people need to try and qualify his great percentages since Dec 1 is a very good sign.

Forest/trees.
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Re: Should the Utah Jazz go for Josh Giddey? 

Post#71 » by buzzkilloton » Sat Jan 14, 2023 5:45 am

OKC not giving up Giddey. He just turned 20 and hes improved quite a bit in year two. Dudes shaping up to be a awesome pick.
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Re: Should the Utah Jazz go for Josh Giddey? 

Post#72 » by Papi_swav » Sat Jan 14, 2023 6:03 am

Ainge isn't really into trading 1st round picks.
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Re: Should the Utah Jazz go for Josh Giddey? 

Post#73 » by slick_watts » Sat Jan 14, 2023 6:14 am

Arlo wrote:
Poor athleticism yet great vision and feel for the game, and movescwell in traffic.

Poor wingspan but one of the best rebounders for his position who racks up blocks and steals.

His shot is clearly improving and he's working with the best in the business. The fact people need to try and qualify his great percentages since Dec 1 is a very good sign.

Forest/trees.


he's at 1% steal and 1.3% block, respectively. that's among the lowest block % for player 6'8" or taller. and among the lowest steal % among guards and wings. steals and blocks /=/ defense but since you brought it up, those are the facts.

his shot is maybe improving? it's hard to tell. he's attempted just over 100 threes and 50 free throws this season. and the point is that even with the unsustainable shooting stretch he hasn't been able to be all that efficient- this is due to his limitations.
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Re: Should the Utah Jazz go for Josh Giddey? 

Post#74 » by QPR » Sat Jan 14, 2023 7:07 am

*sees a thread with giddey in the title, checks to see if slick has posted about how average/limited he is, leaves satisfied*
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Re: Should the Utah Jazz go for Josh Giddey? 

Post#75 » by KingFox » Sat Jan 14, 2023 7:20 am

Nah they'll find their own guy in the draft, i have no doubt about it. They're gonna be kicking a lot of butt soon if they make the right moves
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Re: Should the Utah Jazz go for Josh Giddey? 

Post#76 » by barrotscott » Sat Jan 14, 2023 7:34 am

slick_watts wrote:
Arlo wrote:
Poor athleticism yet great vision and feel for the game, and movescwell in traffic.

Poor wingspan but one of the best rebounders for his position who racks up blocks and steals.

His shot is clearly improving and he's working with the best in the business. The fact people need to try and qualify his great percentages since Dec 1 is a very good sign.

Forest/trees.


he's at 1% steal and 1.3% block, respectively. that's among the lowest block % for player 6'8" or taller. and among the lowest steal % among guards and wings. steals and blocks /=/ defense but since you brought it up, those are the facts.

his shot is maybe improving? it's hard to tell. he's attempted just over 100 threes and 50 free throws this season. and the point is that even with the unsustainable shooting stretch he hasn't been able to be all that efficient- this is due to his limitations.

He is 20 mate. I would hate to be as skeptical as you


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Re: Should the Utah Jazz go for Josh Giddey? 

Post#77 » by Ryoga Hibiki » Sat Jan 14, 2023 7:39 am

Colbinii wrote:I wouldn't trade for a low-ceiling PG like Giddey. The Jazz can stay patient with all their picks and make an all-in move in the future for a real franchise cornerstone, not Josh Giddey.
I don't think Giddey is low ceiling, at all. That size+handle+top tier passing vision can be tha package making a All NBA guy, potentially.
He needs to fill up and finish better through contact and improve his shooting, but if that happens he could be a high level all star.
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Re: Should the Utah Jazz go for Josh Giddey? 

Post#78 » by Ryoga Hibiki » Sat Jan 14, 2023 8:29 am

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therealozzykhan wrote:Jazz should trade Luari, Conley and Clarkson and tank to get Victor or Scoot.

Oh yeah, trade an all-star level player on insane efficiency to hopefully move up from a 2% chance to hit the lottery to a 14% chance. Brilliant.
He's not good enough to be untouchable, very few are.

would you trade Lauri for
a) a Derrick White deal? No for sure
b) a Dejounte Murray deal? Maybe, I would need to think about it. Probably no
c) a Donovan Mitchell deal? absolutely

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Re: Should the Utah Jazz go for Josh Giddey? 

Post#79 » by baldur » Sat Jan 14, 2023 8:30 am

why would OKC trade away their second-best player, who is just 20, in the middle of rebuilding?
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Re: Should the Utah Jazz go for Josh Giddey? 

Post#80 » by Ryoga Hibiki » Sat Jan 14, 2023 8:42 am

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BlazersBroncos wrote:Salary ballast and 3-4 FRP for Lauri.

The point of getting picks is to get a player like Lauri, not to trade him for a bunch of picks that may or may not get you a player of his caliber.

I swear, this NBA mindset is **** bizarro world sometimes.
well, the idea is to have a top player under team control for many years.
if you think Lauri will be a MVP level player like Luka, sure.
a All NBA level like Dame probably.
Anything less you should at least listen to offers.

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