GT: Nets Vs Celtics 1/12 7:30

[sashaturiaf]

We need this Simmons back. He has it in him. He just needs to start getting to the rim more.

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I think the primary difference is that he's a bit more willing to shoot the ball in that clip, I watched it and really didn't notice he had 34 points. Other than that looks completely the same player as now, maybe a little more bounce back then but the tendencies and the goto moves are exactly the same

[3pt_chucker]

Simmons does not look the same athletically post surgery. He's like 80% of what he was. He does not have that 5th gear explosiveness that he possessed. He could take off several feet from the rim and dunk with force. Now he can barely dunk with force while under the rim.

Now he has to settle for sweeping hooks and finesse finishes which he's not really good at. Those calling for him to be more aggressive are going to be disappointed because it's going to be ugly.

Our offensive coaching is still lacklustre vs Boston. Team is just too easy to defend in the 4th Q. No true offensive sets and Kyrie refuses to trust teammates. Like Kyrie has 4 defenders on him and doesn't pass? Ok it's fine on one possession but it happens over and over.

[Hello Brooklyn]

Simmons does not look the same athletically post surgery. He's like 80% of what he was. He does not have that 5th gear explosiveness that he possessed. He could take off several feet from the rim and dunk with force. Now he can barely dunk with force while under the rim.

Now he has to settle for sweeping hooks and finesse finishes which he's not really good at. Those calling for him to be more aggressive are going to be disappointed because it's going to be ugly.

Our offensive coaching is still lacklustre vs Boston. Team is just too easy to defend in the 4th Q. No true offensive sets and Kyrie refuses to trust teammates. Like Kyrie has 4 defenders on him and doesn't pass? Ok it's fine on one possession but it happens over and over.

But how often does Simmons even try to drive to the rim?

I don't buy that its about his athleticism. Its a mental block. Hes afraid of getting fouled and he was able to coast on offense with KD/Kyrie.

Now he needs to step it up. He can get to the rim anytime he wants.

[Hello Brooklyn]

We need this Simmons back. He has it in him. He just needs to start getting to the rim more.

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I think the primary difference is that he's a bit more willing to shoot the ball in that clip, I watched it and really didn't notice he had 34 points. Other than that looks completely the same player as now, maybe a little more bounce back then but the tendencies and the goto moves are exactly the same

Its just mental. Hes the same player.

[Eatgreenz]

Simmons does not look the same athletically post surgery. He's like 80% of what he was. He does not have that 5th gear explosiveness that he possessed. He could take off several feet from the rim and dunk with force. Now he can barely dunk with force while under the rim.

Now he has to settle for sweeping hooks and finesse finishes which he's not really good at. Those calling for him to be more aggressive are going to be disappointed because it's going to be ugly.

Our offensive coaching is still lacklustre vs Boston. Team is just too easy to defend in the 4th Q. No true offensive sets and Kyrie refuses to trust teammates. Like Kyrie has 4 defenders on him and doesn't pass? Ok it's fine on one possession but it happens over and over.

This is the major thing. Even in that video Hello posted Ben doesnt have that same bounce. His 3 drives last night he barely got any lift on his lay ups. 3yrs ago them layups are tomahawk dunks. His still not right athetically yet hopefully it comes back near all star break. Ben does need to be more aggressive but its still effecting him he cant explode like he used to.

[bubonicphoniks]

Simmons does not look the same athletically post surgery. He's like 80% of what he was. He does not have that 5th gear explosiveness that he possessed. He could take off several feet from the rim and dunk with force. Now he can barely dunk with force while under the rim.

Now he has to settle for sweeping hooks and finesse finishes which he's not really good at. Those calling for him to be more aggressive are going to be disappointed because it's going to be ugly.

Our offensive coaching is still lacklustre vs Boston. Team is just too easy to defend in the 4th Q. No true offensive sets and Kyrie refuses to trust teammates. Like Kyrie has 4 defenders on him and doesn't pass? Ok it's fine on one possession but it happens over and over.

This is the major thing. Even in that video Hello posted Ben doesnt have that same bounce. His 3 drives last night he barely got any lift on his lay ups. 3yrs ago them layups are tomahawk dunks. His still not right athetically yet hopefully it comes back near all star break. Ben does need to be more aggressive but its still effecting him he cant explode like he used to.

Your brain is part of your body. Without his confidence in the bounce hes timid and its a weak bounce. I really think its his brain holding him back.

[Stone]

I was at the Clays last night for the Games. A lot of Celtics fans showed up.

I know, they were really audible on TV.

Embarrassing.

It would have been a lot worse but the Nets fans tried to drown them out. Also that piped in "Where Brooklyn at" on the loudspeaker that I was complaining about during the Spurs game came in handy last night.

[Eatgreenz]

Simmons does not look the same athletically post surgery. He's like 80% of what he was. He does not have that 5th gear explosiveness that he possessed. He could take off several feet from the rim and dunk with force. Now he can barely dunk with force while under the rim.

Now he has to settle for sweeping hooks and finesse finishes which he's not really good at. Those calling for him to be more aggressive are going to be disappointed because it's going to be ugly.

Our offensive coaching is still lacklustre vs Boston. Team is just too easy to defend in the 4th Q. No true offensive sets and Kyrie refuses to trust teammates. Like Kyrie has 4 defenders on him and doesn't pass? Ok it's fine on one possession but it happens over and over.

This is the major thing. Even in that video Hello posted Ben doesnt have that same bounce. His 3 drives last night he barely got any lift on his lay ups. 3yrs ago them layups are tomahawk dunks. His still not right athetically yet hopefully it comes back near all star break. Ben does need to be more aggressive but its still effecting him he cant explode like he used to.

Your brain is part of your body. Without his confidence in the bounce hes timid and its a weak bounce. I really think its his brain holding him back.

You could be right cuz something is holding him back from having that explosion that he used to have.

[bisme37]

Good game the other night. Both teams played well I thought. Claxton has gotten so much better this year. Good player. I don't really know why Ben gets so much hate. I'm not a big fan of his but it seems like people are mad at him for simply existing lol. Anyway, cheers, see y'all next time.

[MrDollarBills]

We need this Simmons back. He has it in him. He just needs to start getting to the rim more.

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I think the primary difference is that he's a bit more willing to shoot the ball in that clip, I watched it and really didn't notice he had 34 points. Other than that looks completely the same player as now, maybe a little more bounce back then but the tendencies and the goto moves are exactly the same

Yeah i agree. He looks the same.

Ben just needs to attack the basket more and not be afraid to take the hit.

[MGrand15]

Simmons does not look the same athletically post surgery. He's like 80% of what he was. He does not have that 5th gear explosiveness that he possessed. He could take off several feet from the rim and dunk with force. Now he can barely dunk with force while under the rim.

Now he has to settle for sweeping hooks and finesse finishes which he's not really good at. Those calling for him to be more aggressive are going to be disappointed because it's going to be ugly.

Our offensive coaching is still lacklustre vs Boston. Team is just too easy to defend in the 4th Q. No true offensive sets and Kyrie refuses to trust teammates. Like Kyrie has 4 defenders on him and doesn't pass? Ok it's fine on one possession but it happens over and over.

Yeah the Simmons stuff is so clear to me. I feel like talking about his mindset is deflecting from the real issue. He looks fast in the open court but he can't jump like he used to and his first step isn't where it was before. Hopefully it comes back post all star break but that's just a hope.

It's so obvious when you see him dunk or miss alley oops. He's barely getting up.

[Eatgreenz]

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Does Ben have to get more aggressive yes but its not all his fault he cant do everything he used yet. But its coming his getting closer were the explosiveness will be back.

[MrDollarBills]

Simmons does not look the same athletically post surgery. He's like 80% of what he was. He does not have that 5th gear explosiveness that he possessed. He could take off several feet from the rim and dunk with force. Now he can barely dunk with force while under the rim.

Now he has to settle for sweeping hooks and finesse finishes which he's not really good at. Those calling for him to be more aggressive are going to be disappointed because it's going to be ugly.

Our offensive coaching is still lacklustre vs Boston. Team is just too easy to defend in the 4th Q. No true offensive sets and Kyrie refuses to trust teammates. Like Kyrie has 4 defenders on him and doesn't pass? Ok it's fine on one possession but it happens over and over.

Yeah the Simmons stuff is so clear to me. I feel like talking about his mindset is deflecting from the real issue. He looks fast in the open court but he can't jump like he used to and his first step isn't where it was before. Hopefully it comes back post all star break but that's just a hope.

It's so obvious when you see him dunk or miss alley oops. He's barely getting up.

I'm wondering what the true complete recovery time from that kind of back surgery is. We've seen cases of players not being completely themselves until a full year or so after surgery but that was moreso with knee issues.

[MrDollarBills]

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Does Ben have to get more aggressive yes but its not all his fault he cant do everything he used yet. But its coming his getting closer were the explosiveness will be back.

This answered my question. The guy is still not 100%.

[Stone]

Ben is not 100% and neither is TJ Warren. You could probably add Sumner and Joe to that list also. But we should really wait it out with Ben and TJ and keep them around through 23-24.

The Celtics have now won the last 9 games in a row against us........

[rzzzzz]

Still a right handed shooting with the wrong hand. Probably too late to change at this point. Really messes with his mind.

[Hello Brooklyn]

Even if Ben is not fully recovered he is clearly afraid of driving to the rim. He barely does it.

Its not like he can't run. In transition he runs full speed to other side of the court no problem.

Clearly Ben has a mental block preventing him from going to the rim like he used to. He just needs to get over it.

[Hello Brooklyn]

Cavaliers and Bucks keep losing. Were getting a ton of lucky breaks.

Have to take advantage and find a way to keep this 2 seed.

[Papi_swav]

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Does Ben have to get more aggressive yes but its not all his fault he cant do everything he used yet. But its coming his getting closer were the explosiveness will be back.

good info here. OK I can live with this, at least most of his game other than scoring is back. He's still a good passer, rebounder and defender. Just have to mix some scoring moves in there. If he's only going to be a right hook shooter than he should call Hakeem Olajuwon and work on some post moves. He's still under that big contract so he should be much better next season. I'm just glad he's playing well now and his contract is not a total liability.

[Papi_swav]

Cavaliers and Bucks keep losing. Were getting a ton of lucky breaks.

Have to take advantage and find a way to keep this 2 seed.

Yup, just wish the darn Sixers would lose more We still have the better of their/our pick so them moving down the standings would help our pick selection.