How do you describe the level of play above MVP tier?

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How do you describe the level of play above MVP tier? 

Post#1 » by ceiling raiser » Tue Jan 17, 2023 5:56 am

Obviously MVP is an award but it seems to generally mean best player in the league under ordinary circumstances. Some years the MVP candidates are fringe All-NBA types and are weaker. But some years there seem to be guys playing above an MVP level.

This make sense to anybody? What would you call these type of player-seasons, how frequent are they, and who are some examples).

To be clear — as MVP and All-NBA are seasonal awards, this level of play should be single year as well in my opinion. So not GOAT careers.
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Re: How do you describe the level of play above MVP tier? 

Post#2 » by MyUniBroDavis » Tue Jan 17, 2023 6:37 am

ceiling raiser wrote:Obviously MVP is an award but it seems to generally mean best player in the league under ordinary circumstances. Some years the MVP candidates are fringe All-NBA types and are weaker. But some years there seem to be guys playing above an MVP level.

This make sense to anybody? What would you call these type of player-seasons, how frequent are they, and who are some examples).

To be clear — as MVP and All-NBA are seasonal awards, this level of play should be single year as well in my opinion. So not GOAT careers.


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Re: How do you describe the level of play above MVP tier? 

Post#3 » by SinceGatlingWasARookie » Tue Jan 17, 2023 7:45 am

ceiling raiser wrote:Obviously MVP is an award but it seems to generally mean best player in the league under ordinary circumstances. Some years the MVP candidates are fringe All-NBA types and are weaker. But some years there seem to be guys playing above an MVP level.

This make sense to anybody? What would you call these type of player-seasons, how frequent are they, and who are some examples).

To be clear — as MVP and All-NBA are seasonal awards, this level of play should be single year as well in my opinion. So not GOAT careers.

All decade MVP would be the next step above MVP.
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Re: How do you describe the level of play above MVP tier? 

Post#4 » by Dutchball97 » Tue Jan 17, 2023 9:22 am

All-time level seasons. I generally use this for seasons where a player is the standout best player of the season and would also be the likely MVP in many other seasons if he had put on a similar performance.
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Re: How do you describe the level of play above MVP tier? 

Post#5 » by Freighttrain » Tue Jan 17, 2023 12:37 pm

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Post#6 » by No-more-rings » Tue Jan 17, 2023 6:05 pm

Super Mvp?
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Post#7 » by CharityStripe34 » Tue Jan 17, 2023 8:04 pm

Generational superstar season?
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Re: How do you describe the level of play above MVP tier? 

Post#8 » by penbeast0 » Tue Jan 17, 2023 10:13 pm

Pretty good? ;-)
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Re: How do you describe the level of play above MVP tier? 

Post#9 » by SHAQ32 » Tue Jan 17, 2023 10:42 pm

Not Kobe in 2008.

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Post#10 » by Statlanta » Tue Jan 17, 2023 11:31 pm

ATG tier.

Like Curry in February 2016 stretch.
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Re: How do you describe the level of play above MVP tier? 

Post#11 » by Cavsfansince84 » Tue Jan 17, 2023 11:33 pm

Hasn't it long been accepted that you have weak level mvp years(which sometimes actually win mvps over better years impact wise), strong mvp years and then all time great level years(which MJ & LeBron prob did like 4-5 times each, Duncan/Shaq did 2-3 times etc).
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Re: How do you describe the level of play above MVP tier? 

Post#12 » by rk2023 » Tue Jan 17, 2023 11:48 pm

All-time / historic or GOAT (extremely rare for the latter).

I’m probably generous with my player evals, so I would say the top 20 peaks all get over an all-time level for me and like top 4 or so get on GOAT level (excluding duplicates).
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Re: How do you describe the level of play above MVP tier? 

Post#13 » by trex_8063 » Wed Jan 18, 2023 1:47 am

SHAQ32 wrote:Not Kobe in 2008.


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Re: How do you describe the level of play above MVP tier? 

Post#14 » by ShaqAttac » Wed Jan 18, 2023 8:18 am

shaq level

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