After 20 years, do you consider LeBron a “Good shooter”?

[tsherkin]

Compared to Jordan, James is only a couple ticks lower… and Jordan was considered both reliable and dependable

No, that's very much not the case. Jordan was a considerably better shooter than Lebron, not merely "a couple ticks" different.

[Jaqua92]

LBJs shooting is reliable, dependable even.

Seems at odd with the season, and with his 3pt shooting in general.

He has improved his range thru the years, but also the mechanics and fluidity of the shot.

Compared to his rookie season, sure, but he hasn't meaningfully improved his shooting ability since 2013, and has seemed to noticeably regress since then, in fact.

Compared to Jordan, James is only a couple ticks lower… and Jordan was considered both reliable and dependable

What is this?

Lebron's best season outside the paint was 42%.

LeBron has shot over 40% from mid range once in his career.

Jordan routinely shot 50% on ridiculous volume from mid range.


LeBron has been, objectively, an average shooter at best. There's no statistical argument to call him anything other than average at best.

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[Harry Garris]

Good enough to force the defense to play up on him, and ultimately that’s what matters for guys who make plays with the ball in their hands a lot. Lebron has never been an elite shooter by NBA standards, but he’s skilled in so many other ways as a playmaker that he can leverage an average jump shot to much better effect than an elite jump shot in the hands of most other players.

[Egg Nog]

but he is a very efficient scorer. Nothing has really changed.

He was. He hasn't been "very efficient" in quite some time. He's on a nice stretch right now, though, so we shall see what comes the rest of the season.

The stats don't really agree with what you're suggesting. Perhaps not at this exact moment (though he is right at his career average TS%) but LeBron just posted 61.9TS% last season which was the 4th best of his career...and 60.2TS% the year before that.

[Def Leppard]

I wouldn't leave him open if you know what I mean

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[tsherkin]

The stats don't really agree with what you're suggesting. Perhaps not at this exact moment (though he is right at his career average TS%) but LeBron just posted 61.9TS% last season which was the 4th best of his career, and 60%TS the year before that.

You know what, you're right. I was looking at 2019 and 2020 and blasted right over those.

[Ein Sof]

He's good enough that people can't just back off and let him shoot, even though he's the greatest rim attacker in history

[Jaqua92]

He's good enough that people can't just back off and let him shoot, even though he's the greatest rim attacker in history

Super stars who aren't liabilities with their jumpers get respected everywhere.

Tatum is an MVP candidate and is not an effective mid range shooter. He's never shot better than 44% from mid range IIRC. He's shooting 35% from 3. Teams still respect him for it and don't back off.

LeBron was an average shooter at best. Good enough to not be a liability, but you could live with him taking jumpers.

Luckily for LeBron and for whatever team he played on, he rarely takes a bad shot, and he's so effective when attacking, that he usually gets good looks for his Js



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[threethehardway]

LeBron takes difficult midrange and three point shots from all over the floor. Spo had him narrow his shot selection and he was a world-beater in efficiency. Ever since he got away from Spo, his shooting has fluctuated year to year because he does what he wants.

How I define "good shooter" is this, do you want to leave the guy open? PJ Tucker can't shoot, I'll leave him open. Jarred Vanderbilt can't shoot, I'll leave him open.

I am not leaving LeBron or Trae Young open, I don't care what the percentages say.

Is Lebron a good shooter compared to Kyle Korver, no.

Is he a good shooter compared to Kevin Durant, hell no.

LeBron is on the level of Tracy McGrady and Kobe, guys that are shot maker more than shooters, so there's year to year variance depending on the way the ball bounces, but you wouldn't leave them open.

[NZB2323]

He’s a career 73.5% free throw shooter, which I wouldn’t say is “good.”

I also feel like every time Lebron shoots a 3 instead of driving to the basket, the defense is okay with that.

If I’m the opposing coach, I want Lebron, AD, Embiid, and Giannis to be shooting 3s.

[levon]

He's not a great shooter, but there isn't a shot that he can't make at this point. He's got the full bag.

[Jaqua92]

LeBron takes difficult midrange and three point shots from all over the floor. Spo had him narrow his shot selection and he was a world-beater in efficiency. Ever since he got away from Spo, his shooting has fluctuated year to year because he does what he wants.

How I define "good shooter" is this, do you want to leave the guy open? PJ Tucker can't shoot, I'll leave him open. Jarred Vanderbilt can't shoot, I'll leave him open.

I am not leaving LeBron or Trae Young open, I don't care what the percentages say.

Is Lebron a good shooter compared to Kyle Korver, no.

Is he a good shooter compared to Kevin Durant, hell no.

LeBron is on the level of Tracy McGrady and Kobe, guys that are shot maker more than shooters, so there's year to year variance depending on the way the ball bounces, but you wouldn't leave them open.

LeBron was never a world-beater in jump shot effefiency.

In 4 years in Miami he shot

40.6% from 10 feet - 3pt
40.9% from 10 feet - 3pt
42.3% from 10 feet - 3pt (his best overall)
40.1% from 10 feet - 3pt

Just for comparisons sake


2022 Jaylen Brown
42.4% from 10 feet - 3pt (35% from 3)

2023 Jaylen Brown
46.4 from 10 feet - 3pt (33% from 3)

I think people would consider Jaylen a "very good" but not elite jump shooter.

And LeBron during his Miami days was not even close to him.

LeBron has a lot of strengths, all time strengths to his game. But his jumper, at its best, was average.














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[lonzo_pelota]

Considering his shooting is with defenses putting there best defender on him and having defensive schemes to thwart his normal averages id say he's been good over the years. He's the reason his teammates get such good open looks , he rarely gets the open look, most of his shots have a defender near by or a hand up.

[threethehardway]

LeBron takes difficult midrange and three point shots from all over the floor. Spo had him narrow his shot selection and he was a world-beater in efficiency. Ever since he got away from Spo, his shooting has fluctuated year to year because he does what he wants.

How I define "good shooter" is this, do you want to leave the guy open? PJ Tucker can't shoot, I'll leave him open. Jarred Vanderbilt can't shoot, I'll leave him open.

I am not leaving LeBron or Trae Young open, I don't care what the percentages say.

Is Lebron a good shooter compared to Kyle Korver, no.

Is he a good shooter compared to Kevin Durant, hell no.

LeBron is on the level of Tracy McGrady and Kobe, guys that are shot maker more than shooters, so there's year to year variance depending on the way the ball bounces, but you wouldn't leave them open.

LeBron was never a world-beater in jump shot effefiency.

In 4 years in Miami he shot

40.6% from 10 feet - 3pt
40.9% from 10 feet - 3pt
42.3% from 10 feet - 3pt (his best overall)
40.1% from 10 feet - 3pt

Just for comparisons sake


2022 Jaylen Brown
42.4% from 10 feet - 3pt (35% from 3)

2023 Jaylen Brown
46.4 from 10 feet - 3pt (33% from 3)

I think people would consider Jaylen a "very good" but not elite jump shooter.

And LeBron during his Miami days was not even close to him.

LeBron has a lot of strengths, all time strengths to his game. But his jumper, at its best, was average.














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I definitely would not consider Jaylen Brown a very good jumpshooter at this point in his career. He doesn't even have the same volume from range as LeBron.

I would put him in the same category with LeBron.

Very good jumpshooters to me is guys like Kevin Durant, Devin Booker and Chris Paul.

Elite would be guys like Ray Allen, Reggie Miller and Stephen Curry.

[cam24thomas]

LeBron is a part-time good shooter, and a part-time good defender.

[shotsquatch]

LeBron will punish you if you guard him like a bad shooter. Does that prove he's a good shooter?

[ShulaDon92]

I'd say above average. In the clutch I personally consider him below average.

[Jaqua92]

LeBron takes difficult midrange and three point shots from all over the floor. Spo had him narrow his shot selection and he was a world-beater in efficiency. Ever since he got away from Spo, his shooting has fluctuated year to year because he does what he wants.

How I define "good shooter" is this, do you want to leave the guy open? PJ Tucker can't shoot, I'll leave him open. Jarred Vanderbilt can't shoot, I'll leave him open.

I am not leaving LeBron or Trae Young open, I don't care what the percentages say.

Is Lebron a good shooter compared to Kyle Korver, no.

Is he a good shooter compared to Kevin Durant, hell no.

LeBron is on the level of Tracy McGrady and Kobe, guys that are shot maker more than shooters, so there's year to year variance depending on the way the ball bounces, but you wouldn't leave them open.

LeBron was never a world-beater in jump shot effefiency.

In 4 years in Miami he shot

40.6% from 10 feet - 3pt
40.9% from 10 feet - 3pt
42.3% from 10 feet - 3pt (his best overall)
40.1% from 10 feet - 3pt

Just for comparisons sake


2022 Jaylen Brown
42.4% from 10 feet - 3pt (35% from 3)

2023 Jaylen Brown
46.4 from 10 feet - 3pt (33% from 3)

I think people would consider Jaylen a "very good" but not elite jump shooter.

And LeBron during his Miami days was not even close to him.

LeBron has a lot of strengths, all time strengths to his game. But his jumper, at its best, was average.














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I definitely would not consider Jaylen Brown a very good jumpshooter at this point in his career. He doesn't even have the same volume from range as LeBron.

I would put him in the same category with LeBron.

Very good jumpshooters to me is guys like Kevin Durant, Devin Booker and Chris Paul.

Elite would be guys like Ray Allen, Reggie Miller and Stephen Curry.

Okay. So we're in agreement then. LeBron is a few tiers below elite shooters. And average, to a bit above average at best.

Agreed about JB. But he's been very elite from mid range this year.

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[sashaturiaf]

Decent at best. Teams play him for the drive and pass before the shot, teams will let him fire away all day if he chooses to.

He hits just enough of the open shots he gets, 70%ish free throw shooter, he's mediocre, not good and not bad.

[sashaturiaf]

LeBron takes difficult midrange and three point shots from all over the floor. Spo had him narrow his shot selection and he was a world-beater in efficiency. Ever since he got away from Spo, his shooting has fluctuated year to year because he does what he wants.

How I define "good shooter" is this, do you want to leave the guy open? PJ Tucker can't shoot, I'll leave him open. Jarred Vanderbilt can't shoot, I'll leave him open.

I am not leaving LeBron or Trae Young open, I don't care what the percentages say.

Is Lebron a good shooter compared to Kyle Korver, no.

Is he a good shooter compared to Kevin Durant, hell no.

LeBron is on the level of Tracy McGrady and Kobe, guys that are shot maker more than shooters, so there's year to year variance depending on the way the ball bounces, but you wouldn't leave them open.

Crazy talk. LeBron isn't in the same stratosphere as Kobe when it comes to shooting. Kobe's jumpshot opened up the rest of his game. The rest of lebrons game opens up his jumpshot.