2022 Season Thread

[thesack12]

But the 49ers had 6 days for the WC game, while the Cowboys had 7 or 8 for their game?

Also, would they prefer to go to Philly instead?

49ers played the Seahawks on equal days rest.
Cowboys played the Buccaneers on equal days rest.

You can't equate days of rest/preparation to previous week's matchups.

Niners having 2 additional days to rest/heal/prep/game plan than Dallas, is definitely an advantage for San Francisco going into this week's game.

Dallas got the short end of the stick here, but that's how it goes sometimes. The winner of 9ers/Cowboys will be at a disadvantage going into the NFCCG because whomever they face will have 1 additional days rest because the other NFC game is this Saturday.

If Niners win, to Patterson's point, I'm sure many of us 9er fans will be complaining about the shortened rest going into the NFCCG.

[wco81]

I believe Dallas and SF both played on Sunday in the last regular season game. They did play in Washington while SF was home to Arizona.

Then SF played the WC game at home on Saturday and Dallas played on Monday Night.

So they had 2 extra days before their WC game than the 49ers.

That is why the 49ers have 2 more days for this second playoffs game.

Also 49ers secured the #2 seed so they get to play both games at home while Dallas traveled to Tampa Bay and is coming out here.

That's tough too but that is all about results in the regular season.

[thesack12]

I believe Dallas and SF both played on Sunday in the last regular season game. They did play in Washington while SF was home to Arizona.

Then SF played the WC game at home on Saturday and Dallas played on Monday Night.

So they had 2 extra days before their WC game than the 49ers.

That is why the 49ers have 2 more days for this second playoffs game.

Also 49ers secured the #2 seed so they get to play both games at home while Dallas traveled to Tampa Bay and is coming out here.

That's tough too but that is all about results in the regular season.

There is no correlation between the 2 underlined parts.

Since the NFL re-racks the brackets after the 1st round based on seeding, there is no way to know who is going to be playing who in the 2nd round until the games are played.

Time between games the week before matters little, if anything. Its not just rest, a huge factor is also prepping for a specific team. The Cowboys will have 2 less days to prep/game plan for the 49ers. The 9ers on the other hand, have had at least 1.5 days of extra time to dive into a potential matchup with Dallas.

In the 1st round of the playoffs, having a Saturday game will always be an advantage and having a Monday night game will always be a disadvantage as it pertains to moving on to the next round.

In the 2nd round having a Saturday game will always be an advantage since the NFL has one conference game on Saturday and one conference game on Sunday. So the Saturday winners will always have an extra day than the Sunday winners going into the conference championship games.

[thesack12]

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If the Titans opt to hire Carthon, 9ers will be awarded two 3rd round draft picks.

With interview requests from 5 different teams, its also looking all but inevitable that Demeco Ryans will get a head coaching gig this year. So that will net 2 additional 3rd rounders

[CrimsonCrew]

Not really sure what we're debating here, but I see the difference in preparation and rest as potentially significant. The Niners were done with a home game on Saturday before the Cowboys started their away game in Tampa on Monday. That's over two full days, to say nothing of Dallas traveling back home. The Niners presumably had at least some on-field install work yesterday, granted they didn't know who their opponent was (hopefully they were prepping Dallas more rigorously as they played TB not long ago). They should have a full practice today and the rest of the week.

I would assume Dallas flew home last night, will be off at least from practice today (got to assume they'll have meetings), and won't get down to serious on-field work until tomorrow or possibly even Thursday. They then have to fly to SF on Saturday. That sort of stuff takes a toll. There's a reason so few WC teams go the distance. It's hard to win on the road in the playoffs in any circumstances, but all the more so when doing that much traveling. A short schedule only compounds that.

That said, the Cowboys play in a division with three East Coast opponents, so travel is nothing new to them. And at the end of the day, it's only one factor among many. But the Niners having two extra days to prepare, with their full staff dedicated to working on crafting a gameplan, while the players get more rest for their bodies, don't have to travel, etc., absolutely gives the Niners an additional edge.

[wco81]

Definitely an advantage.

As far as making it more "fair" they could have just played games on Sat and Sunday so the winner on Monday Night wouldn't be at a disadvantage.

But it's for TV and this is the first year under the new format with additional PO teams I believe.

[thesack12]

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Well that escalated quickly.

Congrats to Ran, and the two compensatory 3rds are a bonus to help restock the cupboard after the Lance/CMC trades.

This regime continues to run a program that consistently develops and churns out talent for top level NFL jobs.

[thesack12]

Definitely an advantage.

As far as making it more "fair" they could have just played games on Sat and Sunday so the winner on Monday Night wouldn't be at a disadvantage.

But it's for TV and this is the first year under the new format with additional PO teams I believe.

Its definitely all about TV, exposure, ad sales, etc.

This is the 3rd year of the expanded playoff format of 7 teams. Started the covid year of 2020.

[thesack12]

Not really sure what we're debating here, but I see the difference in preparation and rest as potentially significant. The Niners were done with a home game on Saturday before the Cowboys started their away game in Tampa on Monday. That's over two full days, to say nothing of Dallas traveling back home. The Niners presumably had at least some on-field install work yesterday, granted they didn't know who their opponent was (hopefully they were prepping Dallas more rigorously as they played TB not long ago). They should have a full practice today and the rest of the week.

I would assume Dallas flew home last night, will be off at least from practice today (got to assume they'll have meetings), and won't get down to serious on-field work until tomorrow or possibly even Thursday. They then have to fly to SF on Saturday. That sort of stuff takes a toll. There's a reason so few WC teams go the distance. It's hard to win on the road in the playoffs in any circumstances, but all the more so when doing that much traveling. A short schedule only compounds that.

That said, the Cowboys play in a division with three East Coast opponents, so travel is nothing new to them. And at the end of the day, it's only one factor among many. But the Niners having two extra days to prepare, with their full staff dedicated to working on crafting a gameplan, while the players get more rest for their bodies, don't have to travel, etc., absolutely gives the Niners an additional edge.

Yup, its a clear advantage for the 9ers. But like you said, its only 1 factor of a myriad of them that will determine who moves on to the NFCCG.

As for prep for Dallas, yesterday Kyle said that the coaching staff has been watching tape on both Dallas and Tampa since Minnesota lost to the Giants early on Sunday. So they got an early background base to start to build their gameplan for the Cowboys.

[CrimsonCrew]

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Well that escalated quickly.

Congrats to Ran, and the two compensatory 3rds are a bonus to help restock the cupboard after the Lance/CMC trades.

This regime continues to run a program that consistently develops and churns out talent for top level NFL jobs.

Are we sure it's two? I thought we only got three total for losing Saleh and Mayhew.

Great news on the picks. We definitely need them to offset the McCaffrey trade over the next couple years. Hopefully the talent drain doesn't start to show.

In the past, Lynch and Shanahan have treated these as "extra" picks. They need to consider them the same as any other pick, and use them to bolster the roster with mid-round talent instead of constantly trading up.

[CrimsonCrew]

Not really sure what we're debating here, but I see the difference in preparation and rest as potentially significant. The Niners were done with a home game on Saturday before the Cowboys started their away game in Tampa on Monday. That's over two full days, to say nothing of Dallas traveling back home. The Niners presumably had at least some on-field install work yesterday, granted they didn't know who their opponent was (hopefully they were prepping Dallas more rigorously as they played TB not long ago). They should have a full practice today and the rest of the week.

I would assume Dallas flew home last night, will be off at least from practice today (got to assume they'll have meetings), and won't get down to serious on-field work until tomorrow or possibly even Thursday. They then have to fly to SF on Saturday. That sort of stuff takes a toll. There's a reason so few WC teams go the distance. It's hard to win on the road in the playoffs in any circumstances, but all the more so when doing that much traveling. A short schedule only compounds that.

That said, the Cowboys play in a division with three East Coast opponents, so travel is nothing new to them. And at the end of the day, it's only one factor among many. But the Niners having two extra days to prepare, with their full staff dedicated to working on crafting a gameplan, while the players get more rest for their bodies, don't have to travel, etc., absolutely gives the Niners an additional edge.

Yup, its a clear advantage for the 9ers. But like you said, its only 1 factor of a myriad of them that will determine who moves on to the NFCCG.

As for prep for Dallas, yesterday Kyle said that the coaching staff has been watching tape on both Dallas and Tampa since Minnesota lost to the Giants early on Sunday. So they got an early background base to start to build their gameplan for the Cowboys.

Makes sense. And as they had presumably recently reviewed film on Tampa Bay, hopefully more of the focus was on Dallas.

[CrimsonCrew]

Of their original picks and based on prior trades, I believe the Niners only have four remaining: two in the fifth, and two in the seventh. But they are currently looking at potentially seven comp picks, including three in the third and one in the fifth. That would give them three thirds and three fifths, which is a decent stable of those mid-round picks to add cheap talent. And if Ryans gets a HC gig, they'll get another third this year.

Nice work by them to cultivate talent and net all these picks. Let's hope they make good use of them, as we are seriously hurting for high value picks.

[thesack12]

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Well that escalated quickly.

Congrats to Ran, and the two compensatory 3rds are a bonus to help restock the cupboard after the Lance/CMC trades.

This regime continues to run a program that consistently develops and churns out talent for top level NFL jobs.

Are we sure it's two? I thought we only got three total for losing Saleh and Mayhew.

Great news on the picks. We definitely need them to offset the McCaffrey trade over the next couple years. Hopefully the talent drain doesn't start to show.

In the past, Lynch and Shanahan have treated these as "extra" picks. They need to consider them the same as any other pick, and use them to bolster the roster with mid-round talent instead of constantly trading up.

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From what I've seen, yes they get 2 for Carthon.

But apparently if Ryans gets an HC gig this year, 9ers will only get 1 future compensatory for him. If he gets one next year, 9ers will get 2 picks, but it seems basically a lock Demeco becomes an HC this offseason.

But yeah, even after the CMC trade the cupboard isn't bare. Don't have premium picks, but still have plenty of darts to throw. Also seems like this regime has drafted better in the later rounds, or at least has a higher hit rate. So there should still be a decent crop of young incoming talent going into next season.

They just need not waste any more picks on RB's.

[CrimsonCrew]

Interesting. So you get two, but only three if you lose two guys in a season. That sucks. Got to hope Demeco holds off for another year, I guess. Though if we lose him this year, we could try to bring Fangio back.

[Samurai]

So all we have to do is keep finding guys like Greenlaw (5th round), Kittle (6th round) and Purdy (7th round) and we don't need any more sure-fire studs in the first round like Kinlaw, Solomon Thomas and Reuben Foster!

[thesack12]

So all we have to do is keep finding guys like Greenlaw (5th round), Kittle (6th round) and Purdy (7th round) and we don't need any more sure-fire studs in the first round like Kinlaw, Solomon Thomas and Reuben Foster!

Kittle was drafted in the 5th, but your point stands...

To add to this:

Hufanga in the 5th
Mitchell in the 6th
Jennings in the 7th
DJ Jones in the 6th

Burford in the 4th this past draft is looking like a pretty solid pick as well.

This regime sure seems to have a much better hit rate in the later rounds.

[thesack12]

Interesting. So you get two, but only three if you lose two guys in a season. That sucks. Got to hope Demeco holds off for another year, I guess. Though if we lose him this year, we could try to bring Fangio back.

Yeah, its kind of BS.

If they want to have a cap of 3 per year, that's fine. But that definitely should not change the structure of being awarded 2 compensatory picks for developing talent that gets hired away elsewhere.

If the cap of 3 in a given year is met, the team should still be awarded the full allotment of picks just push them back to subsequent years.

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The eye test certainly backs up this data.

As great as this defense can be, it can be pretty frustrating on 3rd down. They seem to especially be susceptible in 3rd and Long situations, which reflects the low rating on 3rd down passing plays.

Gotta clean that up to get to where we wanna go.

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Ebukam and Jennings being day to day, was the entirety of the injury report coming out of last week's game.

Good stuff

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This is an incredible stat.

Say what you want about Kyle overall, but the dude is a straight up wizard with play design and scheming guys open.