Is Pascal Siakam an empty stats guy?

ceiling raiser · Post #1 » by **ceiling raiser** » Thu Jan 19, 2023 3:00 am

What do you think?

Triple M · Post #2 » by **Triple M** » Thu Jan 19, 2023 3:01 am

Not at all

Edit: to expand further. He was great in the playoffs in '19 and had a great strech last year to go from a non all star to a well worthy All NBA player.

CIN-C-STAR · Post #3 » by **CIN-C-STAR** » Thu Jan 19, 2023 3:01 am

No, his stats are inflated a little compared to where they would be ideally, but that's because the Raps are just desperate for offense.

iLLmatic860 · Post #4 » by **iLLmatic860** » Thu Jan 19, 2023 3:03 am

hes a 3rd or 4th option.

Pythagoras · Post #5 » by **Pythagoras** » Thu Jan 19, 2023 3:04 am

CIN-C-STAR wrote:No, his stats are inflated a little compared to where they would be ideally, but that's because the Raps are just desperate for offense.

This. He’s a good player who can help a team win, but he shouldn’t be the best player on a team that is serious about competing for a title.

VancouverRaps · Post #6 » by **VancouverRaps** » Thu Jan 19, 2023 3:04 am

iLLmatic860 wrote:hes a 3rd or 4th option.

Triple M · Post #7 » by **Triple M** » Thu Jan 19, 2023 3:07 am

iLLmatic860 wrote:hes a 3rd or 4th option.

He was a good #2 in 2019 and i think at times he was the best player for the Raps in the later rounds.

_BALLDONTLIE · Post #8 » by **_BALLDONTLIE** » Thu Jan 19, 2023 3:19 am

iLLmatic860 wrote:hes a 3rd or 4th option.

What would that make the Knicks cause Siakam is better than Brunson and Randle..please don't say these type of things lol

Lockdown504090 · Post #9 » by **Lockdown504090** » Thu Jan 19, 2023 3:20 am

CIN-C-STAR wrote:No, his stats are inflated a little compared to where they would be ideally, but that's because the Raps are just desperate for offense.

yeah not empty, but hes not quite as good as what his scoring numbers say. he uses a lot of dribbles and counter moves to get to league average ts and isnt as good when he doesnt have the rock. Defense has fallen off a bit as well.

LascelleL · Post #10 » by **LascelleL** » Thu Jan 19, 2023 3:21 am

iLLmatic860 wrote:hes a 3rd or 4th option.

He was literally the 2nd option on a championship team

Post #11 » by **Mavrelous** » Thu Jan 19, 2023 3:22 am

He's a 2nd option who needs spacing to operate, Raps have him as 1st option with bad spacing.

heatwillbeback · Post #12 » by **heatwillbeback** » Thu Jan 19, 2023 3:24 am

No! He’s also a great defender, which isn’t shown in those stats. He a winning player.

DarkXaero · Post #13 » by **DarkXaero** » Thu Jan 19, 2023 3:33 am

If Siakam is so good and OG is so good, and Barnes is so good, why are the Raps so mediocre?

Post #14 » by **zimpy27** » Thu Jan 19, 2023 3:36 am

LascelleL wrote:
iLLmatic860 wrote:hes a 3rd or 4th option.

He was literally the 2nd option on a championship team

Lowry was the 2nd best player on that squad.

Enso · Post #15 » by **Enso** » Thu Jan 19, 2023 3:38 am

DarkXaero wrote:If Siakam is so good and OG is so good, and Barnes is so good, why are the Raps so mediocre?

Cause they’re missing top ten player or all time Kyle Lowry

Optms · Post #16 » by **Optms** » Thu Jan 19, 2023 3:44 am

Raptor fans convinced me Kyle Lowry was the second banana on that 2019 team. So which was it? Was Lowry the third option or was it Siakam?

LoveMyRaps · Post #17 » by **LoveMyRaps** » Thu Jan 19, 2023 3:47 am

DarkXaero wrote:If Siakam is so good and OG is so good, and Barnes is so good, why are the Raps so mediocre?

Because they don't have a PG, center, or a bench. Pretty simple.

Raptors FO experimented by constructing a team full of 6'9 forward and the plan backfired terribly.

The team also lacks playmakers, reliable 3pt shooters, and shot creators (Siakam is the lone shot creator).

Harcore Fenton Mun · Post #18 » by **Harcore Fenton Mun** » Thu Jan 19, 2023 3:47 am

iLLmatic860 wrote:hes a 3rd or 4th option.

You guys let a 4th option put up 52 on you. :lol:

LoveMyRaps · Post #19 » by **LoveMyRaps** » Thu Jan 19, 2023 3:48 am

zimpy27 wrote:
LascelleL wrote:
iLLmatic860 wrote:hes a 3rd or 4th option.

He was literally the 2nd option on a championship team

Lowry was the 2nd best player on that squad.

Siakam was at worst a 2B on that championship team.

LoveMyRaps · Post #20 » by **LoveMyRaps** » Thu Jan 19, 2023 3:49 am

Siakam is capable of playing 1-5 and guarding 1-5. He has an insane motor/gas tank and though he might not be ELITE at a particular skill (aside from stamina), he's good/great at just about every aspect of the game.
He's a special player who the FO has failed to surround with the necessary pieces needed to stand with the best in today's NBA.