Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread

TNRaps4life · Post #881 » by **TNRaps4life** » Thu Jan 19, 2023 5:07 am

WaltFrazier wrote:
TNRaps4life wrote:

What are you reading into this?

He just removed it

TNRaps4life · Post #882 » by **TNRaps4life** » Thu Jan 19, 2023 5:09 am

WaltFrazier wrote:
TNRaps4life wrote:

What are you reading into this?

Fred and Gary traded?

Raptors_128 · Post #883 » by **Raptors_128** » Thu Jan 19, 2023 5:09 am

TNRaps4life wrote:
WaltFrazier wrote:
TNRaps4life wrote:

What are you reading into this?

He just removed it

What did he post?

TNRaps4life · Post #884 » by **TNRaps4life** » Thu Jan 19, 2023 5:10 am

Raptors_128 wrote:
TNRaps4life wrote:
WaltFrazier wrote:
What are you reading into this?

He just removed it

What did he post?

Raptorfan2012 · Post #885 » by **Raptorfan2012** » Thu Jan 19, 2023 5:10 am

TNRaps4life wrote:
WaltFrazier wrote:
TNRaps4life wrote:

What are you reading into this?

Fred and Gary traded?

It’s Trent’s birthday… probably just giving him a shout out

Raptorfan2012 · Post #886 » by **Raptorfan2012** » Thu Jan 19, 2023 5:12 am

Hypothetically which package for OG would be better; a Portland one or a New Orleans one?

TNRaps4life · Post #887 » by **TNRaps4life** » Thu Jan 19, 2023 5:14 am

Raptorfan2012 wrote:
TNRaps4life wrote:
WaltFrazier wrote:
What are you reading into this?

Fred and Gary traded?

It’s Trent’s birthday… probably just giving him a shout out

Sham liking the post

Psubs · Post #888 » by **Psubs** » Thu Jan 19, 2023 5:29 am

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/270057/Wizards-Open-Trade-Discussions-On-Rui-Hachimura

Buy low on Hachimura? Wizards could use more bigman depth behind Porzingis and Gafford.

Hachimura and Wil Barton
For
Chris Boucher and Malachi Flynn

If they want Juancho too, sure.

bballsparkin · Post #889 » by **bballsparkin** » Thu Jan 19, 2023 6:11 am

^^You'll even through in Juancho eh. How generous of you. lol

SurgeIblocka · Post #890 » by **SurgeIblocka** » Thu Jan 19, 2023 6:34 am

TNRaps4life wrote:
Raptorfan2012 wrote:
TNRaps4life wrote:

Fred and Gary traded?

It’s Trent’s birthday… probably just giving him a shout out

Sham liking the post

Post still there

fbalmeida · Post #891 » by **fbalmeida** » Thu Jan 19, 2023 12:02 pm

Just read Blake's fascinating yearly trade deadline primer.
So given our cap constraints, we're probably looking to trade Trent and or Fred, ideally for players with multiple years on workable contracts. Sniffing around on spotrac to see if any players stick out, specifically guards or bigs, I've tallied the following options. Please note that this is obviously a funnelled view of who we might be getting back for Gary and or Fred.

Lonzo
Dinwiddie
THJ
Bojan Bogdanovic
Hield
Kennard
Covington
Mann
Zubac
Duncan Robinson
Hartenstein
Fultz
WCJ
Bamba
Shamet
Ayton, albeit requiring some extra sweeteners, such as multiple 1st round picks.
Huerter
Keldon Johnson

And that's about it I think.

If we go the RFA route like we did with an expiring Norm for a RFA Trent, we'd have:

Coby White
Austin Reaves
Nickeil Alexander-Walker
Ayo Dosunmu
Cam Reddish
Cameron Johnson
Anthony Lamb
Hachimura
Jaxson Hayes
Omer Yurtseven
Jock Landale
Neemias Queta

Son Goku 25 · Post #892 » by **Son Goku 25** » Thu Jan 19, 2023 1:09 pm

fbalmeida wrote:Just read Blake's fascinating yearly trade deadline primer.
So given our cap constraints, we're probably looking to trade Trent and or Fred, ideally for players with multiple years on workable contracts. Sniffing around on spotrac to see if any players stick out, specifically guards or bigs, I've tallied the following options. Please note that this is obviously a funnelled view of who we might be getting back for Gary and or Fred.

Lonzo
Dinwiddie
THJ
Bojan Bogdanovic
Hield
Kennard
Covington
Mann
Zubac
Duncan Robinson
Hartenstein
Fultz
WCJ
Bamba
Shamet
Ayton, albeit requiring some extra sweeteners, such as multiple 1st round picks.
Huerter
Keldon Johnson

And that's about it I think.

If we go the RFA route like we did with an expiring Norm for a RFA Trent, we'd have:

Coby White
Austin Reaves
Nickeil Alexander-Walker
Ayo Dosunmu
Cam Reddish
Cameron Johnson
Anthony Lamb
Hachimura
Jaxson Hayes
Omer Yurtseven
Jock Landale
Neemias Queta

Lonzo, Ayo Jaxson Hayes, THT, NAW all seem like players wed go after.

ATLTimekeeper · Post #893 » by **ATLTimekeeper** » Thu Jan 19, 2023 1:48 pm

Morse Code wrote:
tecumseh18 wrote:
DelAbbot wrote:
My original quote meant that we should have packaged that FRP for an upgrade on a starter. That's all I was saying. I'm not going to defend something I didn't say.

I exaggerated your point for humourous effect, because I'm sick of this slant.

Raptors drafted a point forward who was good enough to be ROY in one of the strongest drafts in NBA history. Raptors traded a #20 - i.e. Bruno territory - pick for a highly regarded, mature veteran point forward to mentor the rook, and for the ability to draft the guy they probably wanted all along in 2022 (Koloko). End of fricken' story, unless you think the corpse of Eric Gordon would have put us over the top against the Sixers, then the Celtics, then the Warriors.

This is disingenuous asf. Bruno territory is biased. You know who else was drafted at 20?

Zydrunas Ilgauskas

Speedy Claxton

Brendan Haywood

Kareem Rush

Renaldo Balkman

Not to mention guys picked at 21:

Rajon Rondo

Darren Collison

Ryan Anderson

Nate Robinson

Boris Diaw

Mo Pete

Etc.

Really not fair to qualify a pick slot based on arguably our biggest draft blunder ever. Also, Thad is not a point forward lol and if he was brought here to mentor Scottie in the ways of point forward then he has failed because you could argue Scottie hasn’t improved in that area, yet, and I don’t exactly think Scottie and Thad are close like that.

Would you trade any of those above mentioned players for the privilege of overpaying Thad? I wouldn’t. Koloko is a fine pick, but let’s not act like that was a good trade.

Hold on dude, you had to go back 25 seasons to build this unimpressive list. Hell yeah I would trade Speedy Claxton, Nate Robinson, Renaldo Balkman, Kareen Rush (lol) for a washed Thad Young + Koloko. There's two all-stars, four legit starters in 25 years. Go look at early 30s over that same span and you'll see the quality is about the same, which was the general philosophy behind the trade. Months ahead of the draft, the Raptors decided to bolster their team for a playoff run and they succeeded. They used the pick on someone they hope will be useful going forward, and so far so good.

Lord_Zedd · Post #894 » by **Lord_Zedd** » Thu Jan 19, 2023 1:51 pm

Psubs wrote:https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/270057/Wizards-Open-Trade-Discussions-On-Rui-Hachimura

Buy low on Hachimura? Wizards could use more bigman depth behind Porzingis and Gafford.

Hachimura and Wil Barton
For
Chris Boucher and Malachi Flynn

If they want Juancho too, sure.

Phoenix recently shot down Jae Crowder for Hacimura.

On paper Hacimura looks great with his offensive numbers (albeit 3pt shot not there) and mid-range. Just don't look at his defensive numbers.

redeye514 · Post #895 » by **redeye514** » Thu Jan 19, 2023 1:55 pm

I could be in on buying low on Lonzo.. FVV goes home to Rockford for Lonzo + sweetener?

JPriest · Post #896 » by **JPriest** » Thu Jan 19, 2023 1:57 pm

get Lonzo, he's injured but he's the perfect PG for the team. his shot is wet and he's a defensive savant. no more short PG with **** vision who can't play D.

Son Goku 25 · Post #897 » by **Son Goku 25** » Thu Jan 19, 2023 2:35 pm

For real, I'd love Lonzo on this team

NinjaBro · Post #898 » by **NinjaBro** » Thu Jan 19, 2023 2:38 pm

JPriest wrote:get Lonzo, he's injured but he's the perfect PG for the team. his shot is wet and he's a defensive savant. no more short PG with **** vision who can't play D.

Just a warning on lonzo ball. I was listening to some basketball podcast and they were talking to some Bulls beat insiders and they're really concerned that lonzo's injury is career ending. He still walks around in pain and still can't jump or move around freely pain free. Despite what lonzo and his handlers are telling the media, those who are privy to the situation says it's quite dire and that there's no guarantees he can play again and even if he does he may not be the same. Think Brandon Roy and his meniscus knee injuries and surgeries.

WuTang_CMB · Post #899 » by **WuTang_CMB** » Thu Jan 19, 2023 2:49 pm

Need strong showings from Trent again tonight. NY, NO, PHX all in play it seems

traps#10 · Post #900 » by **traps#10** » Thu Jan 19, 2023 3:11 pm

Wonder if Dallas is interested in FVV? Doncic had expressed he wants help at the trade deadline and the Mavs haven’t been the same since Brunson left.