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bape_lovers wrote:young, good shooter, entering prime? what else does not check? best shooter in the team right now tbh.WuTang_OG wrote:bape_lovers wrote:why do you want to trade GTJR
Cuz all the reports point to that + I dont think we will pay him his ask of $25M/yr , it will be tough to work out with OG and Siakam extensions coming up
WuTang_OG wrote:bape_lovers wrote:why do you want to trade GTJRWuTang_OG wrote:Need strong showings from Trent again tonight. NY, NO, PHX all in play it seems
Cuz all the reports point to that + I dont think we will pay him his ask of $25M/yr , it will be tough to work out with OG and Siakam extensions coming up (possibility of those, so it keeps our flexibility)
WuTang_OG wrote:bape_lovers wrote:young, good shooter, entering prime? what else does not check? best shooter in the team right now tbh.WuTang_OG wrote:
Cuz all the reports point to that + I dont think we will pay him his ask of $25M/yr , it will be tough to work out with OG and Siakam extensions coming up
its more a cap thing
ciueli wrote:WuTang_OG wrote:bape_lovers wrote:why do you want to trade GTJR
Cuz all the reports point to that + I dont think we will pay him his ask of $25M/yr , it will be tough to work out with OG and Siakam extensions coming up (possibility of those, so it keeps our flexibility)
Fred is a free agent sooner, he's the bigger issue IMO because it's clear he wants to get paid at least $30M/year given he already turned down close to that on an extension.
In all honesty, I'd probably rather pay Gary $25M/year than Fred north of $30M/year. At least Gary will be in his prime for the entirety of a 4 year deal.
bape_lovers wrote:so who are we trading GTJR and not impact cap?WuTang_OG wrote:bape_lovers wrote:young, good shooter, entering prime? what else does not check? best shooter in the team right now tbh.
its more a cap thing
tecumseh18 wrote:I just figured out a way to prove the NBA is corrupt. (I assume it is, and was confident that the Raps would move into the top four in the 2021 draft lottery as paypack for the Tampa Tank).
If we gift Pascal, Fred and Birch to the Lakers for Westbrook, P-Bev and the two unprotected picks, Silver will guarantee Masai gets the #1 pick this year. I believe that's the same deal they worked out with the league on the CP trade in 2011. Pels miraculously "won" the lottery in 2012, and selected AD (who they sent to the Lakers in 2019, after also miraculously winning the lottery that spring and drafting Zion).
I'm fine with it. Lebron deserves a last hurrah in the playoffs. Raps get Wemby and a S-ton of cap space this summer.
Ranking the assets:
The Raptors have a lot of pieces attractive to other teams. Here they are, ranked after conversations with multiple league sources. It does not mean any of them will be dealt, just who might be wanted and why.
O.G. Anunoby: A good contract with at least a year to run, a tremendous defender and good three-point shooter. It would take at least two promising players on team-friendly deals and a pick to pry him away.
Fred VanVleet: The cost of re-signing him will be substantial for any team acquiring him but if that hurdle is cleared, a proven winner and a great leader will fetch at least the Anunoby price if not more.
Pascal Siakam: You’re talking about a two-time all-NBA guy, an all-star, a 25-points a night player who might be in line for a supermax contract in the summer. He’d be three-for-one plus picks.
Gary Trent Jr.: He’s a flat-out scorer and they aren’t readily available. The Raptors would need to ask for a player and multiple picks in return.
The best thing the Raptors have going for them — and they know it privately — is that they are in the drivers’ seat.
They don’t have to make a deal, but if they want to do one, they can maybe extract a significant price.
WuTang_OG wrote:bape_lovers wrote:so who are we trading GTJR and not impact cap?WuTang_OG wrote:
its more a cap thing
Ideally u get trent 2.0 from two yrs ago and a pick and filler
agkagk wrote:tecumseh18 wrote:I just figured out a way to prove the NBA is corrupt. (I assume it is, and was confident that the Raps would move into the top four in the 2021 draft lottery as paypack for the Tampa Tank).
If we gift Pascal, Fred and Birch to the Lakers for Westbrook, P-Bev and the two unprotected picks, Silver will guarantee Masai gets the #1 pick this year. I believe that's the same deal they worked out with the league on the CP trade in 2011. Pels miraculously "won" the lottery in 2012, and selected AD (who they sent to the Lakers in 2019, after also miraculously winning the lottery that spring and drafting Zion).
I'm fine with it. Lebron deserves a last hurrah in the playoffs. Raps get Wemby and a S-ton of cap space this summer.
lets trade a top 15 player for two first round picks years from now and bad contracts.
this is literally worse than the vince carter trade.
WORST FANS EVER!!!!!!!!
alpngso wrote:https://www.thestar.com/sports/raptors/2023/01/18/raptors-insider-how-nba-sources-view-raptors-assets-as-trade-chatter-swirls.html
Our boy Dougie doing workRanking the assets:
The Raptors have a lot of pieces attractive to other teams. Here they are, ranked after conversations with multiple league sources. It does not mean any of them will be dealt, just who might be wanted and why.
O.G. Anunoby: A good contract with at least a year to run, a tremendous defender and good three-point shooter. It would take at least two promising players on team-friendly deals and a pick to pry him away.
Fred VanVleet: The cost of re-signing him will be substantial for any team acquiring him but if that hurdle is cleared, a proven winner and a great leader will fetch at least the Anunoby price if not more.
Pascal Siakam: You’re talking about a two-time all-NBA guy, an all-star, a 25-points a night player who might be in line for a supermax contract in the summer. He’d be three-for-one plus picks.
Gary Trent Jr.: He’s a flat-out scorer and they aren’t readily available. The Raptors would need to ask for a player and multiple picks in return.
The best thing the Raptors have going for them — and they know it privately — is that they are in the drivers’ seat.
They don’t have to make a deal, but if they want to do one, they can maybe extract a significant price.
What's the three-for-one trade in Siakam part? Like meaning 3 players for Siakam + picks?
tecumseh18 wrote:agkagk wrote:tecumseh18 wrote:I just figured out a way to prove the NBA is corrupt. (I assume it is, and was confident that the Raps would move into the top four in the 2021 draft lottery as paypack for the Tampa Tank).
If we gift Pascal, Fred and Birch to the Lakers for Westbrook, P-Bev and the two unprotected picks, Silver will guarantee Masai gets the #1 pick this year. I believe that's the same deal they worked out with the league on the CP trade in 2011. Pels miraculously "won" the lottery in 2012, and selected AD (who they sent to the Lakers in 2019, after also miraculously winning the lottery that spring and drafting Zion).
I'm fine with it. Lebron deserves a last hurrah in the playoffs. Raps get Wemby and a S-ton of cap space this summer.
lets trade a top 15 player for two first round picks years from now and bad contracts.
this is literally worse than the vince carter trade.
WORST FANS EVER!!!!!!!!
I would work on your reading comprehension skills if I were you.
But thankfully, I'm not.
tecumseh18 wrote:agkagk wrote:tecumseh18 wrote:I just figured out a way to prove the NBA is corrupt. (I assume it is, and was confident that the Raps would move into the top four in the 2021 draft lottery as paypack for the Tampa Tank).
If we gift Pascal, Fred and Birch to the Lakers for Westbrook, P-Bev and the two unprotected picks, Silver will guarantee Masai gets the #1 pick this year. I believe that's the same deal they worked out with the league on the CP trade in 2011. Pels miraculously "won" the lottery in 2012, and selected AD (who they sent to the Lakers in 2019, after also miraculously winning the lottery that spring and drafting Zion).
I'm fine with it. Lebron deserves a last hurrah in the playoffs. Raps get Wemby and a S-ton of cap space this summer.
lets trade a top 15 player for two first round picks years from now and bad contracts.
this is literally worse than the vince carter trade.
WORST FANS EVER!!!!!!!!
I would work on your reading comprehension skills if I were you.
But thankfully, I'm not.
Rapsfan07 wrote:As for Trent, I think he could be worth something decent. I have his value as a pick, young player and non-expiring salary.
alpngso wrote:https://www.thestar.com/sports/raptors/2023/01/18/raptors-insider-how-nba-sources-view-raptors-assets-as-trade-chatter-swirls.html
Our boy Dougie doing workRanking the assets:
The Raptors have a lot of pieces attractive to other teams. Here they are, ranked after conversations with multiple league sources. It does not mean any of them will be dealt, just who might be wanted and why.
O.G. Anunoby: A good contract with at least a year to run, a tremendous defender and good three-point shooter. It would take at least two promising players on team-friendly deals and a pick to pry him away.
Fred VanVleet: The cost of re-signing him will be substantial for any team acquiring him but if that hurdle is cleared, a proven winner and a great leader will fetch at least the Anunoby price if not more.
Pascal Siakam: You’re talking about a two-time all-NBA guy, an all-star, a 25-points a night player who might be in line for a supermax contract in the summer. He’d be three-for-one plus picks.
Gary Trent Jr.: He’s a flat-out scorer and they aren’t readily available. The Raptors would need to ask for a player and multiple picks in return.
The best thing the Raptors have going for them — and they know it privately — is that they are in the drivers’ seat.
They don’t have to make a deal, but if they want to do one, they can maybe extract a significant price.
What's the three-for-one trade in Siakam part? Like meaning 3 players for Siakam + picks?
douggood wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:ciueli wrote:WuTang_OG wrote:
Cuz all the reports point to that + I dont think we will pay him his ask of $25M/yr , it will be tough to work out with OG and Siakam extensions coming up (possibility of those, so it keeps our flexibility)
Fred is a free agent sooner, he's the bigger issue IMO because it's clear he wants to get paid at least $30M/year given he already turned down close to that on an extension.
In all honesty, I'd probably rather pay Gary $25M/year than Fred north of $30M/year. At least Gary will be in his prime for the entirety of a 4 year deal.
I wouldnt do either tbh
agkagk wrote:Rapsfan07 wrote:agkagk wrote:
in your attempt to disprove that you said theyre negative value contracts im pretty sure you just said that theyre negative value contracts.
ps: the salary cap is going up, by a lot.
pps: raptors just need a back up point guard and an actual centre that can rim run and operate on the low block on the roster.
ppps: we can always keep them, get a late lotto pick, resign them and trade them at a more opportune time later.
Well given your response, it's either you didn't read what I actually said, you didn't comprehend what I said or your mind is already made up.
Either way, what's patently obvious is continuing this discussion with you is pointless. Thank you for letting me know.
lets trade everyone for mid to late picks because theyre negative value, but not negative value, but trade them now cause they might be negative value in the future.
google the upcoming cba and tv deal friend.