Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread

[WuTang_CMB]

New Orleans has the most attractive assets for OG in my mind. I wonder how aggressive they want to be this deadline. They are loaded but still trying to find their way as a contender. I dont think they do this because they love Murphy (Griffin would be foolish to deal Lakers swap at deadline) but if somehow Masai gets offered this, you take it.

[JB7]

Portland are pretenders. They should sell off.

It looked like that was what they were beginning to do last trade deadline, when they moved CJ, and then they went after Grant at the draft and resigned Nurkic. Looks like they are just trying to retool and get more size to surround Dame.

[ash_k]

I don't know why I keep reading about OG's potential trades.
The 6-8+ 2-way/versatile lineup vision only came to light last season and has not been implemented yet, with 2 players under 6'5 in the starting lineup.
Why would Vice Chairman and GM then trade one of OG, Precious, Pascal (and even Point Forward Barnes)?

[Rapsfan07]

Portland are pretenders. They should sell off.

Better for us that they believe they're contenders. Believe it or not, there aren't actually many teams out there that are a Pascal away from contention AND have assets of value to return in a trade. Portland and maybe Phoenix are the only ones...unless the Pistons or some desperate team like that are willing to do something crazy.

Simons, Sharpe and at least two unprotected firsts and a swap is the starting point for me.

[bape_lovers]

same with GTJR, both players has most upside but everyone 'reading reports" decided its good thing

I don't know why I keep reading about OG's potential trades.
The 6-8+ 2-way/versatile lineup vision only came to light last season and has not been implemented yet, with 2 players under 6'5 in the starting lineup.
Why would Vice Chairman and GM then trade one of OG, Precious, Pascal (and even Point Forward Barnes)?

[Psubs]

Portland are pretenders. They should sell off.

It looked like that was what they were beginning to do last trade deadline, when they moved CJ, and then they went after Grant at the draft and resigned Nurkic. Looks like they are just trying to retool and get more size to surround Dame.

Jerami Grant and Keon Johnson for Chris Boucher, Thaddeus Young and Khem Birch

Frees up big money and get a young athletic prospect on a rookie contract.

[Rapsfan07]

Please don't trade OG! FVV and Trent first. You don't see a player like OG in the draft who can guard 1-5.

Cam Whitmore is a beast but I don't think he focuses that much on defense.

As with everyone else on this roster not named Barnes, my ears would be open. But I am certainly not in a rush to move OG.

FVV, Trent & Pascal (in that order) should all be moved before OG, IMO. Unless someone gives you an insane godfather offer.

[Rapsfan07]

Portland are pretenders. They should sell off.

It looked like that was what they were beginning to do last trade deadline, when they moved CJ, and then they went after Grant at the draft and resigned Nurkic. Looks like they are just trying to retool and get more size to surround Dame.

Jerami Grant and Keon Johnson for Chris Boucher, Thaddeus Young and Khem Birch

Frees up big money and get a young athletic prospect on a rookie contract.

Wouldn't be too worried about freeing up big money as we are still under the tax right now and shouldn't be looking to re-invest in Vanvleet. I'd be looking for younger assets personally.

[StopitLeo]

I'm eyeing Sacramento in a potential trade, specifically Davion Mitchell. I think he'll be a Marcus Smart- level defender, but he's not getting any pt down there playing behind Fox. Nick would love him.

Would love to snag Murray and Mitchell from the Beam Team. I’ll drive OG to Pearson and even throw in a bag of unopened Doritos from my pantry

Oh hell nah lol we don't need to get smaller on the wings and you basically split OG into 2 players. A decent shooter with a high level defender. Trading a toonie for two loonies lol

If OG gets traded there has to be a young player with clear all-star potential coming back, Murray will be VERY solid but he's not THAT. Not to mention compounding the costs of having to retain 2 players vs 1.

Why would a team with "a young player with clear all-star potential trade" trade him for OG? That makes no sense.

Murray and Mitchell would be pretty good prospects to work with moving forward. They are under contract for 2-3 years before becoming RFAs and would cost under $15M/y combined during that time whereas OG will easily command $20M+.

I can't see this kind of trade being the first domino to fall though. I think moving Fred should be the start.

[Sandman88]

I don't know why I keep reading about OG's potential trades.
The 6-8+ 2-way/versatile lineup vision only came to light last season and has not been implemented yet, with 2 players under 6'5 in the starting lineup.
Why would Vice Chairman and GM then trade one of OG, Precious, Pascal (and even Point Forward Barnes)?

Because OG struggles offensively to play off of pascal and Barnes. He tries to do too much and wants a larger role that he doesn’t deserve here. He’s given chances but his ball handling and shooting has not improved enough to warrant a bigger role. In fact, his shooting has regressed this year. He also will net us the biggest haul outside of Siakam. Now is the best time to sell high.

[Psubs]

Please don't trade OG! FVV and Trent first. You don't see a player like OG in the draft who can guard 1-5.

Cam Whitmore is a beast but I don't think he focuses that much on defense.

As with everyone else on this roster not named Barnes, my ears would be open. But I am certainly not in a rush to move OG.

FVV, Trent & Pascal (in that order) should all be moved before OG, IMO. Unless someone gives you an insane godfather offer.

OG would be 2nd behind Barnes of players I'd least like to move.

[JB7]

Portland are pretenders. They should sell off.

It looked like that was what they were beginning to do last trade deadline, when they moved CJ, and then they went after Grant at the draft and resigned Nurkic. Looks like they are just trying to retool and get more size to surround Dame.

Jerami Grant and Keon Johnson for Chris Boucher, Thaddeus Young and Khem Birch

Frees up big money and get a young athletic prospect on a rookie contract.

Why would Portland do that kind of deal? They are trying to get better with size. Moved CJ and then brought in Grant. I was proposing them moving out Simons (with other pieces) for Pascal.

[LoveMyRaps]

Just getting word...

Just got word too

Yup. Should be announced soon.

[LoveMyRaps]

Just getting word...

Say what?

Are you connected or something?

Yup. I'm the notorious RealGM insider - Kevin Rashidi.

[Dalek]

I don't know why I keep reading about OG's potential trades.
The 6-8+ 2-way/versatile lineup vision only came to light last season and has not been implemented yet, with 2 players under 6'5 in the starting lineup.
Why would Vice Chairman and GM then trade one of OG, Precious, Pascal (and even Point Forward Barnes)?

I think OG should be considered a core guy, but what has been concerning is the chatter around his role, which Nurse mentioned in the summer was something OG was not satisfied with.

Second, he has free agency around the corner and you have to wonder if Toronto will commit to this 6-9 vision for big dollars.

Third and most importantly, he is a Klutch client, same as Gary Trent Jr. Klutch always has a strong voice in your direction. They like to see their guys move to optimal situations where they can make a ton of money. If you look at noise about player's being unhappy the past two seasons it is likely a Klutch guy:

Anthony Davis
Lebron James
Zach Lavine
Ben Simmons
Dejounte Murray
D'arron Fox

I think Klutch is probably behind some of this trade movement, and honestly they tend to get things to happen their way.

[StopitLeo]

Just getting word...

Just got word too

Yup. Should be announced soon.

Can confirm.

[Highflyerwire]

I don't know why I keep reading about OG's potential trades.
The 6-8+ 2-way/versatile lineup vision only came to light last season and has not been implemented yet, with 2 players under 6'5 in the starting lineup.
Why would Vice Chairman and GM then trade one of OG, Precious, Pascal (and even Point Forward Barnes)?

I think OG should be considered a core guy, but what has been concerning is the chatter around his role, which Nurse mentioned in the summer was something OG was not satisfied with.

Second, he has free agency around the corner and you have to wonder if Toronto will commit to this 6-9 vision for big dollars.

Third and most importantly, he is a Klutch client, same as Gary Trent Jr. Klutch always has a strong voice in your direction. They like to see their guys move to optimal situations where they can make a ton of money. If you look at noise about player's being unhappy the past two seasons it is likely a Klutch guy:

Anthony Davis
Lebron James
Zach Lavine
Ben Simmons
Dejounte Murray
D'arron Fox

I think Klutch is probably behind some of this trade movement, and honestly they tend to get things to happen their way.

Not to sound too much like a conspiracy theorist but I would suspect he's been talked to about getting traded in some fashion, he's got 2 techs in January so far and almost seems like he's playing scared, has his fair share of air-balls recently as well!

[PhilBlackson]

Would love to snag Murray and Mitchell from the Beam Team. I’ll drive OG to Pearson and even throw in a bag of unopened Doritos from my pantry

Oh hell nah lol we don't need to get smaller on the wings and you basically split OG into 2 players. A decent shooter with a high level defender. Trading a toonie for two loonies lol

If OG gets traded there has to be a young player with clear all-star potential coming back, Murray will be VERY solid but he's not THAT. Not to mention compounding the costs of having to retain 2 players vs 1.

Why would a team with "a young player with clear all-star potential trade" trade him for OG? That makes no sense.

Murray and Mitchell would be pretty good prospects to work with moving forward. They are under contract for 2-3 years before becoming RFAs and would cost under $15M/y combined during that time whereas OG will easily command $20M+.

I can't see this kind of trade being the first domino to fall though. I think moving Fred should be the start.

It makes complete sense if they're going all in ie/ NOP with Daniels or POR with Sharpe with stars who likely don't have much left for their "contending" window (NOP is all based on Zion and you're kidding yourself if you think he's making it another 4-5+ years in the league with that ever evolving body of his -- just too much weight on the knees & ankles).

What you're proposing just based on the players sounds like a at best lateral move which is why I'd need picks because at least maybe in a year or two it could create a better overall package once those 2 progress as players. But talentwise, I don't think they'd change the ceiling of the team all that much.

But I agree with you that I don't think OG would/will be the first move (IF he's even moved which personally I'm doubtful of). I still 100% believe the guy that will be moved is Gary (every rumour basically says both sides are ready to move on)...and Fred is more 30-40% type of chance where they're seeing if the team even looks worth holding on to him & if it's worth paying so much to retain him with OG & Pascal. Who I believe is 10% or less chance they move either unless they're blown away by a trade offer they can't refuse.

[LoveMyRaps]

Just got word too

Yup. Should be announced soon.

Can confirm.

Thanks Grange.

[ash_k]

I don't know why I keep reading about OG's potential trades.
The 6-8+ 2-way/versatile lineup vision only came to light last season and has not been implemented yet, with 2 players under 6'5 in the starting lineup.
Why would Vice Chairman and GM then trade one of OG, Precious, Pascal (and even Point Forward Barnes)?

Because OG struggles offensively to play off of pascal and Barnes. He tries to do too much and wants a larger role that he doesn’t deserve here. He’s given chances but his ball handling and shooting has not improved enough to warrant a bigger role. In fact, his shooting has regressed this year. He also will net us the biggest haul outside of Siakam. Now is the best time to sell high.

The larger role thing rumor from ....Jake Fisher still?
Despite playing with 3x20ppg scorers in the starting lineup, he would be averaging 20ppg right now, without all those WIDE open misses. He had his shooting hand taped for while. It could explain his shooting.
Overall, DPOY-OG has been just fine, he just needs consistent touches (just feeling the ball) which can't really happen with all those ball-dominant players in the starting 5.