reanimator wrote:Hal14 wrote:reanimator wrote:For the people who have him high lotto, what is it that you envision his role to be in the NBA? I admittedly have him in that 10-14 range with something like an Otto porter medium outcome, Middleton ceiling. I think he is inferior to Jabari in a stronger draft at the top so its hard to stomach him going at the same draft spot and I'm just wondering what I'm missing? Is it just pure college production? Is age not a factor? Do you think his onball potential is viable? When you look at all the younger wings with great size and shooting touch in this draft, is the perceived gap really that big between them and Miller?
A wing with good size at 6'9" who can dribble/pass/shoot/defend. Isn't that what every NBA team is looking for these days?
Let's not overthink it and get too caught up with player comps. Relying too much on player comps over-simplifies scouting. There's so much nuance to the game that gets ignored with lazy player comps.
Dude is the best player on arguably the best team in college basketball, as a freshman. He can defend and score. He can hit shots from all over the floor. He's making over 70% of his shots at the rim over the past 5 games. Pretty good athleticism, pretty good handle. Can score on ball or off ball, can shoot off movement, etc.
As of now, he has a strong case as the #3 prospect in this draft.
See, I don't think he is a great athlete nor a great passer. He is an elite shooter off the catch or dribble with enough of a functional handle to attack in space or on a close out but not as much in traffic. And once again, he is fairly old for his class. The kid is productive and he has a very obvious role and high floor but I'm personally not seeing a do everything wing which is where I have a disconnect. But yeah, the production will have him in contention for #3. I don't think a Otto Porter/Middleton median/ceiling outlook is even lazy nor insulting to the kid but hey everyone isn't going to be as high/low on the same prospects.
As far his his age. That is getting WAY overblown. He's a freshman! It's his first year of draft eligibility. Let's get real here, people. He's less than a year older than Victor, Scoot and the Thompson twins.
I didn't say he had GREAT passing, athleticism or driving in tight spaces. Great is a pretty strong word. I think he's good enough at all of those things, that combined with his strong defense, strong rebounding, 6'9" size, elite shooting and only being a freshman, he has a strong case to go top 3... he's good at all of those things and will keep getting better in each area, since he's still only a freshman.
I'm not really looking too much at player comps in my evaluations, nor am I nitpicking too much over a minor flaw here or a minor flaw there. I'm taking a step back and looking at ALL of the pros and cons for each prospect - and comparing the entire package to the others in the class. Miller might have some flaws, but IMO George's has more flaws and they are more glaring. Whitehead has more flaws and they are more glaring. The twins haev more flaws and they are more glaring, same with Jarace, Nick Smith, Whitmore, etc.
Athleticism:
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Passing:
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Driving in tight spaces:
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