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Post#1061 » by SurgeIblocka » Fri Jan 20, 2023 12:29 am

Oakvillehoops wrote:My sources are telling me management is very caught off guard by the situation we’re in. They truly believed this team was always about to turn it around.

Leaning towards one trade and a Tampa stealth tank. And more concerned how to compete right away again next year with the new rookie addition and a bench re tool

They are “open” anything. But this isn’t new for Masai, he will always “listen”


How can this management be ok with one trade??

So they are ok with OG, Trent and Fred walking and getting nothing back? I guarantee neither of those three want to stay on this team anymore unless we are the only team severely overpaying them. If thats the case then this management group is out to lunch and needs to be replaced. They did the same sht with Ibaka and lost him in free agency for nothing, they didnt want to trade fred for PG and lost Kawhi, and they actually think Fred and Trent and OG want to stay here to build on what exactly?? No capspace after signing those three, and improve how? By having Scottie turn into prime Magic somehow. Yeah no one is that gullable, this team aint improving unless they trade multiple players or they lose all three and go into free agency if lucky maybe with with enough capspace to sign one piece. They are just stubborn and dont want to admit they fd up and its time to blow it up.
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Post#1062 » by SurgeIblocka » Fri Jan 20, 2023 12:30 am

Oakvillehoops wrote:My sources are telling me management is very caught off guard by the situation we’re in. They truly believed this team was always about to turn it around.

Leaning towards one trade and a Tampa stealth tank. And more concerned how to compete right away again next year with the new rookie addition and a bench re tool

They are “open” anything. But this isn’t new for Masai, he will always “listen”


How can this management be ok with one trade??

So they are ok with OG, Trent and Fred walking and getting nothing back? I guarantee neither of those three want to stay on this team anymore unless we are the only team severely overpaying them. If thats the case then this management group is out to lunch and needs to be replaced. They did the same sht with Ibaka and lost him in free agency for nothing, they didnt want to trade fred for PG and lost Kawhi, and they actually think Fred and Trent and OG want to stay here to build on what exactly?? No capspace after signing those three, and improve how? By having Scottie turn into prime Magic somehow. Yeah no one is that gullable, this team aint improving unless they trade multiple players or they lose all three and go into free agency if lucky maybe with with enough capspace to sign one piece. They are just stubborn and dont want to admit they fd up and its time to blow it up. They also waited too long to trade Lowry and got crap him. They should have traded Dragic way earlier to Dallas when they wanted him. Just sloppy GM’ing by this group
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Post#1063 » by bboyskinnylegs » Fri Jan 20, 2023 12:34 am

Madvillainy2004 wrote:
islandboy53 wrote:
bluerap23 wrote:Any actual rumors in this thread?



Lol. Apparently this is the "Trade deadline occasional rumours and a whole lot of generally silly discussion" thread.


My uncle works for the Raptors and says we're trading for kawhi again.

is your uncle's name Dennis?
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Post#1064 » by Oakvillehoops » Fri Jan 20, 2023 12:34 am

SurgeIblocka wrote:
Oakvillehoops wrote:My sources are telling me management is very caught off guard by the situation we’re in. They truly believed this team was always about to turn it around.

Leaning towards one trade and a Tampa stealth tank. And more concerned how to compete right away again next year with the new rookie addition and a bench re tool

They are “open” anything. But this isn’t new for Masai, he will always “listen”


How can this management be ok with one trade??

So they are ok with OG, Trent and Fred walking and getting nothing back? I guarantee neither of those three want to stay on this team anymore unless we are the only team severely overpaying them. If thats the case then this management group is out to lunch and needs to be replaced. They did the same sht with Ibaka and lost him in free agency for nothing, they didnt want to trade fred for PG and lost Kawhi, and they actually think Fred and Trent and OG want to stay here to build on what exactly?? No capspace after signing those three, and improve how? By having Scottie turn into prime Magic somehow. Yeah no one is that gullable, this team aint improving unless they trade multiple players or they lose all three and go into free agency if lucky maybe with with enough capspace to sign one piece. They are just stubborn and dont want to admit they fd up and its time to blow it up.


OG is under control still next year. They value the championship pedigree FVV and Siakam bring. They are not ready to clear house from everyone who was part of that team.

Management is very high on Fred. Fred had indicated that he would take a discount. And in the long term is open to any role on the team that leads to winning. Fans know nothing about his personality/mentality as they think they do
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Post#1065 » by Kingsway_fan » Fri Jan 20, 2023 12:39 am

Trent to Golden State for some of their youth would be ideal...
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Post#1066 » by agkagk » Fri Jan 20, 2023 12:45 am

Oakvillehoops wrote:
SurgeIblocka wrote:
Oakvillehoops wrote:My sources are telling me management is very caught off guard by the situation we’re in. They truly believed this team was always about to turn it around.

Leaning towards one trade and a Tampa stealth tank. And more concerned how to compete right away again next year with the new rookie addition and a bench re tool

They are “open” anything. But this isn’t new for Masai, he will always “listen”


How can this management be ok with one trade??

So they are ok with OG, Trent and Fred walking and getting nothing back? I guarantee neither of those three want to stay on this team anymore unless we are the only team severely overpaying them. If thats the case then this management group is out to lunch and needs to be replaced. They did the same sht with Ibaka and lost him in free agency for nothing, they didnt want to trade fred for PG and lost Kawhi, and they actually think Fred and Trent and OG want to stay here to build on what exactly?? No capspace after signing those three, and improve how? By having Scottie turn into prime Magic somehow. Yeah no one is that gullable, this team aint improving unless they trade multiple players or they lose all three and go into free agency if lucky maybe with with enough capspace to sign one piece. They are just stubborn and dont want to admit they fd up and its time to blow it up.


OG is under control still next year. They value the championship pedigree FVV and Siakam bring. They are not ready to clear house from everyone who was part of that team.

Management is very high on Fred. Fred had indicated that he would take a discount. And in the long term is open to any role on the team that leads to winning. Fans know nothing about his personality/mentality as they think they do


Nah dog he’s selfish cause these dumb ass fans don’t know how to read what the opposing defences are doing.
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Post#1067 » by goinrogue » Fri Jan 20, 2023 12:45 am

Oakvillehoops wrote:
SurgeIblocka wrote:
Oakvillehoops wrote:My sources are telling me management is very caught off guard by the situation we’re in. They truly believed this team was always about to turn it around.

Leaning towards one trade and a Tampa stealth tank. And more concerned how to compete right away again next year with the new rookie addition and a bench re tool

They are “open” anything. But this isn’t new for Masai, he will always “listen”


How can this management be ok with one trade??

So they are ok with OG, Trent and Fred walking and getting nothing back? I guarantee neither of those three want to stay on this team anymore unless we are the only team severely overpaying them. If thats the case then this management group is out to lunch and needs to be replaced. They did the same sht with Ibaka and lost him in free agency for nothing, they didnt want to trade fred for PG and lost Kawhi, and they actually think Fred and Trent and OG want to stay here to build on what exactly?? No capspace after signing those three, and improve how? By having Scottie turn into prime Magic somehow. Yeah no one is that gullable, this team aint improving unless they trade multiple players or they lose all three and go into free agency if lucky maybe with with enough capspace to sign one piece. They are just stubborn and dont want to admit they fd up and its time to blow it up.


OG is under control still next year. They value the championship pedigree FVV and Siakam bring. They are not ready to clear house from everyone who was part of that team.

Management is very high on Fred. Fred had indicated that he would take a discount. And in the long term is open to any role on the team that leads to winning. Fans know nothing about his personality/mentality as they think they do


My apologies if you’re legit, but this sounds pretty made up. You’re basically saying they might trade Gary, but otherwise we’re going to evaluate. Anybody on this board with no insider knowledge could’ve said that.
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Post#1068 » by Indeed » Fri Jan 20, 2023 12:46 am

Oakvillehoops wrote:
SurgeIblocka wrote:
Oakvillehoops wrote:My sources are telling me management is very caught off guard by the situation we’re in. They truly believed this team was always about to turn it around.

Leaning towards one trade and a Tampa stealth tank. And more concerned how to compete right away again next year with the new rookie addition and a bench re tool

They are “open” anything. But this isn’t new for Masai, he will always “listen”


How can this management be ok with one trade??

So they are ok with OG, Trent and Fred walking and getting nothing back? I guarantee neither of those three want to stay on this team anymore unless we are the only team severely overpaying them. If thats the case then this management group is out to lunch and needs to be replaced. They did the same sht with Ibaka and lost him in free agency for nothing, they didnt want to trade fred for PG and lost Kawhi, and they actually think Fred and Trent and OG want to stay here to build on what exactly?? No capspace after signing those three, and improve how? By having Scottie turn into prime Magic somehow. Yeah no one is that gullable, this team aint improving unless they trade multiple players or they lose all three and go into free agency if lucky maybe with with enough capspace to sign one piece. They are just stubborn and dont want to admit they fd up and its time to blow it up.


OG is under control still next year. They value the championship pedigree FVV and Siakam bring. They are not ready to clear house from everyone who was part of that team.

Management is very high on Fred. Fred had indicated that he would take a discount. And in the long term is open to any role on the team that leads to winning. Fans know nothing about his personality/mentality as they think they do


It is also the management to be blamed on not getting a Centre for all these years.
I think they are trying to acquire a C before they decide if this group is not good enough to contend, much like it takes a few years to conclude DeRozan cannot net us Championship before we jump on for an upgrade.
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Post#1069 » by Raptors_128 » Fri Jan 20, 2023 12:47 am

Oakvillehoops wrote:
SurgeIblocka wrote:
Oakvillehoops wrote:My sources are telling me management is very caught off guard by the situation we’re in. They truly believed this team was always about to turn it around.

Leaning towards one trade and a Tampa stealth tank. And more concerned how to compete right away again next year with the new rookie addition and a bench re tool

They are “open” anything. But this isn’t new for Masai, he will always “listen”


How can this management be ok with one trade??

So they are ok with OG, Trent and Fred walking and getting nothing back? I guarantee neither of those three want to stay on this team anymore unless we are the only team severely overpaying them. If thats the case then this management group is out to lunch and needs to be replaced. They did the same sht with Ibaka and lost him in free agency for nothing, they didnt want to trade fred for PG and lost Kawhi, and they actually think Fred and Trent and OG want to stay here to build on what exactly?? No capspace after signing those three, and improve how? By having Scottie turn into prime Magic somehow. Yeah no one is that gullable, this team aint improving unless they trade multiple players or they lose all three and go into free agency if lucky maybe with with enough capspace to sign one piece. They are just stubborn and dont want to admit they fd up and its time to blow it up.


OG is under control still next year. They value the championship pedigree FVV and Siakam bring. They are not ready to clear house from everyone who was part of that team.

Management is very high on Fred. Fred had indicated that he would take a discount. And in the long term is open to any role on the team that leads to winning. Fans know nothing about his personality/mentality as they think they do


The last paragraph doesn’t make sense to me. If Fred has indicated that he would take a discount and the Raps wanted him back, wouldn’t both sides have agreed to a contract extension by now?
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Post#1070 » by goinrogue » Fri Jan 20, 2023 12:50 am

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Oakvillehoops wrote:
SurgeIblocka wrote:
How can this management be ok with one trade??

So they are ok with OG, Trent and Fred walking and getting nothing back? I guarantee neither of those three want to stay on this team anymore unless we are the only team severely overpaying them. If thats the case then this management group is out to lunch and needs to be replaced. They did the same sht with Ibaka and lost him in free agency for nothing, they didnt want to trade fred for PG and lost Kawhi, and they actually think Fred and Trent and OG want to stay here to build on what exactly?? No capspace after signing those three, and improve how? By having Scottie turn into prime Magic somehow. Yeah no one is that gullable, this team aint improving unless they trade multiple players or they lose all three and go into free agency if lucky maybe with with enough capspace to sign one piece. They are just stubborn and dont want to admit they fd up and its time to blow it up.


OG is under control still next year. They value the championship pedigree FVV and Siakam bring. They are not ready to clear house from everyone who was part of that team.

Management is very high on Fred. Fred had indicated that he would take a discount. And in the long term is open to any role on the team that leads to winning. Fans know nothing about his personality/mentality as they think they do


The last paragraph doesn’t make sense to me. If Fred has indicated that he would take a discount and the Raps wanted him back, wouldn’t both sides have agreed to a contract extension by now?


Lol even the biggest Fred fan in the world will admit he ain’t taking no friggin discount. This is BS move on. This board was littered with fake insiders during the Kawaii saga. Take a wild guess based on what usually happens – Masai does nothing, evaluates. A few minor changes. Get credit for being an insider if your educated guess is correct
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Post#1071 » by Ell Curry » Fri Jan 20, 2023 12:55 am

New Orleans being mad at Ingram for not coming back early enough (he says he can't push off) might open up something there. We do need a high volume scorer and Ingram is sort of a taller Demar.
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Post#1072 » by WaltFrazier » Fri Jan 20, 2023 1:10 am

youreachiteach wrote:I hate how certain writers are trying to lower OG's value by saying things like" I always see OG as not being as good as advertised" right after the front office suggests they want a haul of picks. And then they add "nice defensive player" like he is a throw-away dime a dozen defender. Talk about trying to negotiate for a cheaper price!

This is the only player in the NBA who makes Donovan Mitchell cry for his mother when he plays here. We are very unlikely to get a shut-down defender anywhere near his quality anywhere else. Unless we get a tank star like Victor it's even harder for us to get offensive stars--thus having more elite defensive players seems to be a good idea. Yes, our defence has been bad this season...but it definitely wont improve by removing him.

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Post#1073 » by agkagk » Fri Jan 20, 2023 1:13 am

goinrogue wrote:
Oakvillehoops wrote:
SurgeIblocka wrote:
How can this management be ok with one trade??

So they are ok with OG, Trent and Fred walking and getting nothing back? I guarantee neither of those three want to stay on this team anymore unless we are the only team severely overpaying them. If thats the case then this management group is out to lunch and needs to be replaced. They did the same sht with Ibaka and lost him in free agency for nothing, they didnt want to trade fred for PG and lost Kawhi, and they actually think Fred and Trent and OG want to stay here to build on what exactly?? No capspace after signing those three, and improve how? By having Scottie turn into prime Magic somehow. Yeah no one is that gullable, this team aint improving unless they trade multiple players or they lose all three and go into free agency if lucky maybe with with enough capspace to sign one piece. They are just stubborn and dont want to admit they fd up and its time to blow it up.


OG is under control still next year. They value the championship pedigree FVV and Siakam bring. They are not ready to clear house from everyone who was part of that team.

Management is very high on Fred. Fred had indicated that he would take a discount. And in the long term is open to any role on the team that leads to winning. Fans know nothing about his personality/mentality as they think they do


My apologies if you’re legit, but this sounds pretty made up. You’re basically saying they might trade Gary, but otherwise we’re going to evaluate. Anybody on this board with no insider knowledge could’ve said that.



All the screaming fan boys on this forum need to slow their role.

Perhaps stealth tank is the best option.

Draft around 6th
Resign Trent and Fred.

Sign a bloody centre and a back up pg in the off season.

Reestablish spacing to the offence and keep building.

Siakam, Fred, Trent, Barnes, achiuwa, og, a mid to high lotto pick and a bench that actual supports our core is a hell of a lot better than any of the trades I’ve read in this thread.

By a lot.
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Post#1074 » by goinrogue » Fri Jan 20, 2023 1:19 am

I’m not doubting Masai will do no trades other than move a few bench pieces pieces and maybe Gary. Like every other poster on this board I basically expect him to do that. I just don’t think this guy is an insider. That’s all.
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Post#1075 » by WuTang_CMB » Fri Jan 20, 2023 1:19 am

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Post#1076 » by Jef » Fri Jan 20, 2023 1:21 am

One of my sources (initials D.S.) tells me that Fred is awesome and a real leader, and won't be traded, and that all you internet people can suck it. Another source of mine (J.L.) is currently camouflaging in well as a bestie to one of Masai's kids' at the schoolhouse, and should have some inside info soon. A third source of mine (M.G.) "can confirm" this.

I'll report back in later.
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Post#1077 » by agkagk » Fri Jan 20, 2023 1:25 am

Jef wrote:One of my sources (initials D.S.) tells me that Fred is awesome and a real leader, and won't be traded, and that all you internet people can suck it. Another source of mine (J.L.) is currently camouflaging in well as a bestie to one of Masai's kids' at the schoolhouse, and should have some inside info soon. A third source of mine (M.G.) "can confirm" this.

I'll report back in later.



The entire league and every pundit around the league knows this about Fred.

This forum on the other hand……

Spoiler warning: worst fans ever!
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Post#1078 » by agkagk » Fri Jan 20, 2023 1:29 am

My dream scenario:

Do nothing of consequence this trade deadline.

Draft between 6 - 12th.

Resign Fred and Gary for around 54 million annually combined.

Trade Scottie, achiuwa, filler for Kat and nowell.

Trade the pick for a veteran 6 man.

Gary - Fred - og - siakam - Kat
Nowell - somebody - somebody - Boucher - koloko

Go into the luxury tax.

Win a title with the most selfish point guard in the league.
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Post#1079 » by DreamTeam09 » Fri Jan 20, 2023 1:50 am

HumbleRen wrote:
JShuttlesworth wrote:
DreamTeam09 wrote:
So two years ago we got the number 4 pick,
Minus - Birch and Thad what's the avg age of our group
Minus FVV who's a FA it drops even more.
Have we signed any long term contracts, no.....

We are currently in a rebuild, we just are not actively tanking as you and others would probably prefer


Nothing we've done to date is indicative of a rebuild

If we were in a rebuild, that Thad trade would have never happened


This.

The things he listed didn’t happen because we were rebuilding, it was just the FO putting together a poorly made team.


We easily could've ended up with the same player we drafted in that same draft without the Thad young trade, or dalen terry who many of us wanted but hasn't done anything this year.

We lost our starting PG 2yrs ago, we are in a rebuild, we just haven't torn it down which are two different things.
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Post#1080 » by agkagk » Fri Jan 20, 2023 1:55 am

DreamTeam09 wrote:
HumbleRen wrote:
JShuttlesworth wrote:
Nothing we've done to date is indicative of a rebuild

If we were in a rebuild, that Thad trade would have never happened


This.

The things he listed didn’t happen because we were rebuilding, it was just the FO putting together a poorly made team.


We easily could've ended up with the same player we drafted in that same draft without the Thad young trade, or dalen terry who many of us wanted but hasn't done anything this year.

We lost our starting PG 2yrs ago, we are in a rebuild, we just haven't torn it down which are two different things.



Just last year everybody was on board with our “asset collecting” mode.

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