Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread

[RapsFanInOhio]

Somewhat agree.

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If you can somehow get Simons/filler/picks for OG, you pull the trigger.

I think I’m here too. Especially because I think his comments about wanting a larger role are part of what started this entire mess.

OG had zero role in starting any mess with this team. Those comments were fabricated by Jake Fischer, this is well established

I completely disagree with that. Nick addressed someone having role issues in the locker room.

I didn’t say OG was to blame for the mess, but he contributed to it. Once that stuff gets out of the locker room, it sends a pretty clear message to the rest of the team. He’s not the only one that’s the problem - I actually think the main culture issue is Fred - but OG absolutely played a role.

[JShuttlesworth]

Nothing we've done to date is indicative of a rebuild

If we were in a rebuild, that Thad trade would have never happened

This.

The things he listed didn’t happen because we were rebuilding, it was just the FO putting together a poorly made team.

We easily could've ended up with the same player we drafted in that same draft without the Thad young trade, or dalen terry who many of us wanted but hasn't done anything this year.

We lost our starting PG 2yrs ago, we are in a rebuild, we just haven't torn it down which are two different things.

Maybe we would have, or maybe we wouldn't have. It's irrelevant. That's not a rebuild move regardless, you don't trade down in a draft, to acquire a vet to make a playoff push, if you're rebuilding.

[RapsFanInOhio]

I don't know why I keep reading about OG's potential trades.
The 6-8+ 2-way/versatile lineup vision only came to light last season and has not been implemented yet, with 2 players under 6'5 in the starting lineup.
Why would Vice Chairman and GM then trade one of OG, Precious, Pascal (and even Point Forward Barnes)?

Maybe eventually the league gets bigger and we do too, but ultimately you have to just have actual offensive talent to win games in today’s league. You can trot out 5 seven footers and it wouldn’t matter if they can’t create their own shot or play smart offensive basketball.

[ash_k]

I don't know why I keep reading about OG's potential trades.
The 6-8+ 2-way/versatile lineup vision only came to light last season and has not been implemented yet, with 2 players under 6'5 in the starting lineup.
Why would Vice Chairman and GM then trade one of OG, Precious, Pascal (and even Point Forward Barnes)?

Maybe eventually the league gets bigger and we do too, but ultimately you have to just have actual offensive talent to win games in today’s league. You can trot out 5 seven footers and it wouldn’t matter if they can’t create their own shot or play smart offensive basketball.

We have the offensive talent, with 5 players capable of averaging 20ppg: You wont find another NBA team with that.
Maybe we need 1 (or 2) true 3pt specialist for this NBA. And I still don't know where our defense has gone.

[Sidthekid87]

What's this I'm hearing that weiskamp has a 42 inch vert???

[WaltFrazier]

I think I’m here too. Especially because I think his comments about wanting a larger role are part of what started this entire mess.

OG had zero role in starting any mess with this team. Those comments were fabricated by Jake Fischer, this is well established

I completely disagree with that. Nick addressed someone having role issues in the locker room.

I didn’t say OG was to blame for the mess, but he contributed to it. Once that stuff gets out of the locker room, it sends a pretty clear message to the rest of the team. He’s not the only one that’s the problem - I actually think the main culture issue is Fred - but OG absolutely played a role.

By nature and temperament OG is the diametric opposite of a malcontent guy in the locker room

[DreamTeam09]

This.

The things he listed didn’t happen because we were rebuilding, it was just the FO putting together a poorly made team.

We easily could've ended up with the same player we drafted in that same draft without the Thad young trade, or dalen terry who many of us wanted but hasn't done anything this year.

We lost our starting PG 2yrs ago, we are in a rebuild, we just haven't torn it down which are two different things.

Maybe we would have, or maybe we wouldn't have. It's irrelevant. That's not a rebuild move regardless, you don't trade down in a draft, to acquire a vet to make a playoff push, if you're rebuilding.

Or maybe that vet is for you know, teaching mentoring the young guys on the team. Like what vets do on a rebuilding team, in a weak draft year

+ We didn't wanna let Dragic just expire because it wouldn't have given us cap space neway.

[WuTang_CMB]

update. still on pace for 24-32

16 games until trade deadline including last night vs Charlotte. I guessed our record. I will update after each game.

(17-23)

Jan 10 - Charlotte - W (18-23)
Jan 12 - Charlotte - W (19-23)
Jan 14 - Atlanta - W .... Loss (19-24)
Jan 16 - @ NY - L .... Win (20-24)
Jan 17 - @ Milwaukee - L (20-25)
Jan 19 - @ Minnesota - L (20-26)

Jan 21 - Boston - L
Jan 22 - NY - W
Jan 25 - @ Sacramento - L
Jan 27 - @ G.S. - L
Jan 28 - @ Portland - L
Jan 30 - @ Phoenix - L
Feb 1 - @ Utah - W
Feb 3 - @ Houston - W
Feb 5 - @ Memphis - L
Feb 8 - San Antonio - W

Feb 9 = Trade Deadline.

7-9 record as per above (24-32). But lets say we get 2 extra wins and go 9-7 instead, we would be (26-30).

To put things in perspective on Feb 9 of last year (deadline was Feb 10), our record was 30-23.

[mtcan]

Question: is it possible to trade for a pick swap between two other teams?

For example...the Lakers and Pelicans have a pick swap for this upcoming draft. I would want that Lakers pick.

[navyblue]

Question: is it possible to trade for a pick swap between two other teams?

For example...the Lakers and Pelicans have a pick swap for this upcoming draft. I would want that Lakers pick.

Yes it's possible
But pelicans won't trade it without a top4 protection or something

[mtcan]

Question: is it possible to trade for a pick swap between two other teams?

For example...the Lakers and Pelicans have a pick swap for this upcoming draft. I would want that Lakers pick.

Yes it's possible
But pelicans won't trade it without a top4 protection or something

I'd be ok with that. Even as a 7th or 8th pick...it would be valuable. You end up with 2 lottery picks which is a quick way to upgrade the talent pool.

[notagenius]

Tor and Por just seem like perfect trading partners.

Both teams need to do something.

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[Yeezus_]

Sometimes he does not see the ball for entire quarters with the other 3 20-point scorers in the lineup. It just make no sense to trade him unless Masai&Bobby have already given up on their 6'8+ Lineup, after less than 2 years. (though I doubt it)

It'll depend on what the return for OG is. If it's lucrative, you have to pull the trigger. If not, you continue playing him and developing him. Though he'll never be a consistent 20+ ppg scorer with strong efficiency if he doesn't improve his free throw rate, which has been pretty mediocre for a few seasons now.

He's shooting 82.3% from the line this year, his best rate as a pro.

His Free throw rate i.e. the number of FT attempts per FG attempt is low. Also, his overall efficiency is down this year using metrics like eFG% and TS%.

[Saul Goodman]

Tor and Por just seem like perfect trading partners.

Both teams need to do something.

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OG for Simons??

[Syd-TK3]

Question: is it possible to trade for a pick swap between two other teams?

For example...the Lakers and Pelicans have a pick swap for this upcoming draft. I would want that Lakers pick.

Yes it's possible
But pelicans won't trade it without a top4 protection or something

I'd be ok with that. Even as a 7th or 8th pick...it would be valuable. You end up with 2 lottery picks which is a quick way to upgrade the talent pool.

Facts 2 lottery picks and potentially two in the top 10 is the ideal situation for a quick turnaround

[WaltFrazier]

What's this I'm hearing that weiskamp has a 42 inch vert???

Didn't look like it on his two fast break drives down the middle.

Beautiful shot though

[LoveMyRaps]

What's this I'm hearing that weiskamp has a 42 inch vert???

4.2 inches*

[Wise80]

What's this I'm hearing that weiskamp has a 42 inch vert???

It never really dawned on me. But these combine measurements don't really tell the whole story. You got guys practicing these tests leading up to the combine just to score really high in hopes of jumping up in the draft. Much like in football.

I put OG and Barnes in that same category. From what I remember, they both scored really high in a lot of drills. But make them dribble and all of a sudden they look a lot less athletic.

Didn't Scottie score really high in lane agility? Once you add in the unknown of which way to go (aka guarding the ball), he looks slow.

[HumbleRen]

What's this I'm hearing that weiskamp has a 42 inch vert???

It never really dawned on me. But these combine measurements don't really tell the whole story. You got guys practicing these tests leading up to the combine just to score really high in hopes of jumping up in the draft. Much like in football.

I put OG and Barnes in that same category. From what I remember, they both scored really high in a lot of drills. But make them dribble and all of a sudden they look a lot less athletic.

Didn't Scottie score really high in lane agility? Once you add in the unknown of which way to go (aka guarding the ball), he looks slow.

Stationary athleticism vs functional athleticism.

[DelAbbot]

What's this I'm hearing that weiskamp has a 42 inch vert???

It never really dawned on me. But these combine measurements don't really tell the whole story. You got guys practicing these tests leading up to the combine just to score really high in hopes of jumping up in the draft. Much like in football.

I put OG and Barnes in that same category. From what I remember, they both scored really high in a lot of drills. But make them dribble and all of a sudden they look a lot less athletic.

Didn't Scottie score really high in lane agility? Once you add in the unknown of which way to go (aka guarding the ball), he looks slow.

Stationary athleticism vs functional athleticism.

What are you guys talking about? OG and Scottie have athleticism. They just lack handle / dribbling skills - which can be developed