Dejounte Murray on his time with The Spurs

[threethehardway]

lmao the internet's funny. None of us personally know DJ but a bunch of statements on DJ's character based off a two minute clip from twitter

Lol, it's RealGM, we know why.

All the man said was Tony didn't like being benched and refused to mentor him, now Dejounte is crazy and this and that.

Are we gonna act like everyone wanna be underneath the Spurs and deal with Pop's antics and mind games?

Lol some people need a reality check and stop butt-kissing.

[sashaturiaf]

From that short clip, Murray seems like an entitled brat with very little self awareness. That does not surprise me at all given he's 25 years old, spent his entire formulative years focused on bouncing a ball which in return gave him fame and riches.

Listening to Stephen Jackson's comments in the same podcast you can understand where Murray's venom was coming from, Parker was not a liked teammate which we probably all could have guessed since he broke the bro code in addition to being French.

My takeaways
1/ NBA podcasts are absurd, these guys are highly talented but it's at playing basketball and not filling out a 2 hour podcast. However they are great for generating drama and soap opera gossip when guys start dishing dirt, just look at the attention this thread has received.
2/ Pop is a genius for making the system for work so long with this cast of characters in his locker room.

[MrBigShot]

The way he sounded you'd have thought he was the #1 pick in the draft burried on the bench.

And TP didn't owe him anything wtf.

[Geaux_Hawks]

such a horrible coddled generation

not everyone obviously

but Murray is a great example of that
good player but entitlement is just oozing out of him
he's talking like a 3 time champion when he hasn't accomplished all that much

but u pay a young kid 100M+ to play basketball and be ultra famous so that's what ya get

Tony Parker was kinda famously not the greatest teammate.

If he said Tim Duncan wasn’t a great mentor figure I’d have more questions about Dejounte’s judgement.

Similar thoughts as well.

Even Stephen Jackson agreed with him on that. Had it been Manu, who Jack also agreed was a great teammate, then it would've been some concern there.

What I got from what he said was that the Spurs drafted him, but likely questioned his character. They proceeded to start him over Tony because he was younger, a talented player, and he also put in a lot of work in the off-season.

So effectively, those things outweighed his character concerns. This inturn leads to his disappointment with TP for not wanting to be there to mentor him. Seems like Murray was expecting TP to be happy for him, and be happy to pass the torch.

There was some entitlement, but not as egregious as it's being made out to be. If anything, you could say he respected TP, and wished he would've stayed to help him progress since TP was closing in on the end of his career. Again, passing the torch.

I will say TP didn't owe him anything, but I can see Murray's point coming from the enviroment he came from. It's usually a "me against the world" mindset, and Tony was basically against him at that point.

Call it what you want, but if Duncan made this exact statement about Robinson, we'd probably see people uplifting Duncan and saying he will still go on to be a great player.

[CobraCommander]

such a horrible coddled generation

not everyone obviously

but Murray is a great example of that
good player but entitlement is just oozing out of him
he's talking like a 3 time champion when he hasn't accomplished all that much

but u pay a young kid 100M+ to play basketball and be ultra famous so that's what ya get

Naw ....you can play and not be entitled-

Love what he said about hard work tho. But tony not supposed to like a guy taking his job...multiple time championship winning leaders are not built to be back ups...


Dads mentor their sons....David Robinson was a gentleman and mentored Tim...but I ain’t mentoring my replacement unless it’s in my personal best interest and clearly it wasn’t in Tony’s

[Sharkboy242]

Wrong quote

[Sharkboy242]

lmao the internet's funny. None of us personally know DJ but a bunch of statements on DJ's character based off a two minute clip from twitter

Yeah because its not like there’s any history of DJM being a dick existing right? Or is bouncing the ball off of amateur player’s heads in a pro am league normal behavior?

Dude is unlikeable af

[Memories]

To be fair with Murray, Tony Parker was historically known, and documented as a bad teammate. Heck, the guy is even questionable as a person. Just ask Brent Barry.

Murray also said he loved guys like Manu, so it’s not like he doesn’t have invalid complaints. Sure there’s ego there, but if he called out Tim Duncan or Manu, then yeah, I would be concerned with Murray’s mental state at that point.

[lambchop]

He didn't really take TP's job. Parker tore his quad tendon and when he came back he was no longer NBA material. Charlotte was kind enough to offer him a contract.

As for TP being a horrible human being, yea he's definitely scum for doing what he did to Barry. At the same time, it was probably a blessing in disguise for Barry who was then finally able to eliminate both his ex-wife and Parker from his life.

[Slim Charlez]

such a horrible coddled generation

not everyone obviously

but Murray is a great example of that
good player but entitlement is just oozing out of him
he's talking like a 3 time champion when he hasn't accomplished all that much

but u pay a young kid 100M+ to play basketball and be ultra famous so that's what ya get

Tony Parker was kinda famously not the greatest teammate.

If he said Tim Duncan wasn’t a great mentor figure I’d have more questions about Dejounte’s judgement.

Similar thoughts as well.

Even Stephen Jackson agreed with him on that. Had it been Manu, who Jack also agreed was a great teammate, then it would've been some concern there.

What I got from what he said was that the Spurs drafted him, but likely questioned his character. They proceeded to start him over Tony because he was younger, a talented player, and he also put in a lot of work in the off-season.

So effectively, those things outweighed his character concerns. This inturn leads to his disappointment with TP for not wanting to be there to mentor him. Seems like Murray was expecting TP to be happy for him, and be happy to pass the torch.

There was some entitlement, but not as egregious as it's being made out to be. If anything, you could say he respected TP, and wished he would've stayed to help him progress since TP was closing in on the end of his career. Again, passing the torch.

I will say TP didn't owe him anything, but I can see Murray's point coming from the enviroment he came from. It's usually a "me against the world" mindset, and Tony was basically against him at that point.

Call it what you want, but if Duncan made this exact statement about Robinson, we'd probably see people uplifting Duncan and saying he will still go on to be a great player.

Parker left because he was going to be behind both Murray and Patty in roster, he might be a crappy teammate but let's not skip over the facts, he went to Charlotte knowing full well he was going to be a backup there as well.

[johanliebert]

If TP still felt like he could be an impact player that was his decision. He didn’t owe murray anything.

[DoctorX]

From that short clip, Murray seems like an entitled brat with very little self awareness. That does not surprise me at all given he's 25 years old, spent his entire formulative years focused on bouncing a ball which in return gave him fame and riches.

Listening to Stephen Jackson's comments in the same podcast you can understand where Murray's venom was coming from, Parker was not a liked teammate which we probably all could have guessed since he broke the bro code in addition to being French.

My takeaways
1/ NBA podcasts are absurd, these guys are highly talented but it's at playing basketball and not filling out a 2 hour podcast. However they are great for generating drama and soap opera gossip when guys start dishing dirt, just look at the attention this thread has received.
2/Duncan is a genius for making the system for work so long with this cast of characters in his locker room.

Fixed for you.

[dhsilv2]

Didn't Murray miss his 3rd year with an injury? The year he wanted TP to stay and mentor him in? I have no issue if he disliked Parker or something, but that reasoning is awful.

[DoctorX]

This interview had middle school-high school vibes with Jax and Dejounte going at Tony Parker. Tony Parker is the easiest one to pile on out of the Spurs legendary big 3 because of what he did with Barry's wife and because of that he's the one that malcontents such as Jax, Dejounte target. It's the equivalent of the least popular kid getting piled on simply because he's the easiest target.

For example, I don't think Tony disrespected Jax in San Antonio the way Jax does to him. Jax claims Tony didn't pass him the ball enough but whose fault is that? Pop would have gotten on Tony if he felt Jax need to get more touches but he never did so Jax should take out his anger on Pop but he won't because he knows Pop is not an easy target to go after so he will go after Tony. I don't buy Tony was selfish when it came to playing in the spurs system. He sacrificed his stats much like Duncan and Manu did to help the team get wins which is something Jax was not willing to do. It's why he had a falling out with the Spurs during his final year with them. He was terrible stat wise during his final year but blames everybody but himself for his failures.

[Bornstellar]

lmao the internet's funny. None of us personally know DJ but a bunch of statements on DJ's character based off a two minute clip from twitter

Lol, it's RealGM, we know why.

All the man said was Tony didn't like being benched and refused to mentor him, now Dejounte is crazy and this and that.

Are we gonna act like everyone wanna be underneath the Spurs and deal with Pop's antics and mind games?

Lol some people need a reality check and stop butt-kissing.

Yeah that's totally all he said. Lmao. This interview was 2 hours dude. You need the reality check bro

Not to mention people like y'all think we only watched a two minute clip and not his entire career up to this point.

[Geaux_Hawks]

Tony Parker was kinda famously not the greatest teammate.

If he said Tim Duncan wasn’t a great mentor figure I’d have more questions about Dejounte’s judgement.

Similar thoughts as well.

Even Stephen Jackson agreed with him on that. Had it been Manu, who Jack also agreed was a great teammate, then it would've been some concern there.

What I got from what he said was that the Spurs drafted him, but likely questioned his character. They proceeded to start him over Tony because he was younger, a talented player, and he also put in a lot of work in the off-season.

So effectively, those things outweighed his character concerns. This inturn leads to his disappointment with TP for not wanting to be there to mentor him. Seems like Murray was expecting TP to be happy for him, and be happy to pass the torch.

There was some entitlement, but not as egregious as it's being made out to be. If anything, you could say he respected TP, and wished he would've stayed to help him progress since TP was closing in on the end of his career. Again, passing the torch.

I will say TP didn't owe him anything, but I can see Murray's point coming from the enviroment he came from. It's usually a "me against the world" mindset, and Tony was basically against him at that point.

Call it what you want, but if Duncan made this exact statement about Robinson, we'd probably see people uplifting Duncan and saying he will still go on to be a great player.

Parker left because he was going to be behind both Murray and Patty in roster, he might be a crappy teammate but let's not skip over the facts, he went to Charlotte knowing full well he was going to be a backup there as well.

I don't think that invalidates what Murray might've wanted. Parker retired the next year. Again, I didn't say he owed it to Murray or the Spurs to stay and mentor. I just understand Murrays sentiments.

[Warriorfan]

Good is relative. Just not the right top of mentor

[leolozon]

Why would any veteran with a good a career as Parker like getting benched for a young guy? Seems like Murray expected Parker to just stand there and embrace getting demoted.

No he literally said he's fine with Tony not liking it "Keeping it 100, I'm love you for that" is his quote. He's just stating the fact that Tony wasn't happy. This thread is misleading. Murray didn't care, he worked and got the job.

Not clear to me. From what I understand Tony didn’t say anything, but he didn’t look happy. So he didn’t really keep it 100 as it seems to be about what Murray thought and not what Parker said. And then he blames him for leaving, so it’s not clear.

Why is it that people who keep saying « You know what I mean? » Are generally people who are actually hard to follow. Do they subconsciously know and actually really want an approval? But people act as if it’s just a way of talking and never just say to them : « Actually, could you just say your point and stop dancing around it? »

[Bornstellar]

More clownish comments. Dude just cant help himself.

[Dutchball97]

Tony Parker has to be one of the most unlikeable athletes ever who didn't get his notoriety based on anything criminal. While Murray's comments don't make a lot of sense here, I'm still inclined to believe Parker has never been a good mentor to any teammate.