Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread

[Dalek]

"It's just a lot of things, factors of being consistent in the NBA," Trent said. "It's your role, your opportunity, your coach's trust. Do they believe in you? Do they run plays for you? Do they put you in certain positions to succeed. Just different type of things. Coach Nurse and his team has been there for me. They've helped me. Gave me a platform and opportunity of a lifetime."

https://www.startribune.com/gary-trent-jr-enjoying-his-best-nba-season-yet-with-toronto-raptors-apple-valley/600244942/?refresh=true

Gary sounds like he is preparing for his next team already. It would explain his urgency to empty the clip lately.

[Los_29]

"It's just a lot of things, factors of being consistent in the NBA," Trent said. "It's your role, your opportunity, your coach's trust. Do they believe in you? Do they run plays for you? Do they put you in certain positions to succeed. Just different type of things. Coach Nurse and his team has been there for me. They've helped me. Gave me a platform and opportunity of a lifetime."

https://www.startribune.com/gary-trent-jr-enjoying-his-best-nba-season-yet-with-toronto-raptors-apple-valley/600244942/?refresh=true

Gary sounds like he is preparing for his next team already. It would explain his urgency to empty the clip lately.

Emptying the clip isn't going to make teams want him if that's what he's thinking. LOL.

[fbalmeida]

All I'm saying is that if we trade Trent for a big, I'll be satisfied but also absolutely **** pissed at the front office, because in that case, why didn't we trade Norm for a big right away?

[Dalek]

"It's just a lot of things, factors of being consistent in the NBA," Trent said. "It's your role, your opportunity, your coach's trust. Do they believe in you? Do they run plays for you? Do they put you in certain positions to succeed. Just different type of things. Coach Nurse and his team has been there for me. They've helped me. Gave me a platform and opportunity of a lifetime."

https://www.startribune.com/gary-trent-jr-enjoying-his-best-nba-season-yet-with-toronto-raptors-apple-valley/600244942/?refresh=true

Gary sounds like he is preparing for his next team already. It would explain his urgency to empty the clip lately.

Emptying the clip isn't going to make teams want him if that's what he's thinking. LOL.

To be fair, he is also gambling like he does for steals like he used to do last season. The activity has seriously picked up. He is selling himself as a two-way guy for sure. Someone will bite on it given his age and productivity.

Just don't show anyone his fastbreak highlight reel. Cringe.

[Los_29]

https://www.startribune.com/gary-trent-jr-enjoying-his-best-nba-season-yet-with-toronto-raptors-apple-valley/600244942/?refresh=true

Gary sounds like he is preparing for his next team already. It would explain his urgency to empty the clip lately.

Emptying the clip isn't going to make teams want him if that's what he's thinking. LOL.

To be fair, he is also gambling like he does for steals like he used to do last season. The activity has seriously picked up. He is selling himself as a two-way guy for sure. Someone will bite on it given his age and productivity.

Just don't show anyone his fastbreak highlight reel. Cringe.

Definitely picked up after Nurse called him out. He knows that's how he's going to be able to stay on the floor.

[Zeno]

"It's just a lot of things, factors of being consistent in the NBA," Trent said. "It's your role, your opportunity, your coach's trust. Do they believe in you? Do they run plays for you? Do they put you in certain positions to succeed. Just different type of things. Coach Nurse and his team has been there for me. They've helped me. Gave me a platform and opportunity of a lifetime."

https://www.startribune.com/gary-trent-jr-enjoying-his-best-nba-season-yet-with-toronto-raptors-apple-valley/600244942/?refresh=true

Gary sounds like he is preparing for his next team already. It would explain his urgency to empty the clip lately.

I don’t see your interpretation in that quote. Does he say anything else that makes you reach that conclusion? The link seems to be behind a wall of some kind.
Edit: don’t know why I was blocked the first time but read whole article now. Yeah he sounds like he knows a trade likely coming.

[ATLTimekeeper]

"It's just a lot of things, factors of being consistent in the NBA," Trent said. "It's your role, your opportunity, your coach's trust. Do they believe in you? Do they run plays for you? Do they put you in certain positions to succeed. Just different type of things. Coach Nurse and his team has been there for me. They've helped me. Gave me a platform and opportunity of a lifetime."

https://www.startribune.com/gary-trent-jr-enjoying-his-best-nba-season-yet-with-toronto-raptors-apple-valley/600244942/?refresh=true

Gary sounds like he is preparing for his next team already. It would explain his urgency to empty the clip lately.

I don’t see your interpretation in that quote. Does he say anything else that makes you reach that conclusion? The link seems to be behind a wall of some kind.

I didn't see it either, other than calling his experience a "platform," but Masai uses that term all the time. I'm not sure what he's supposed to say in his situation, though, other than "please don't trade me I want to stay in Toronto forever."

[Sidthekid87]

"It's just a lot of things, factors of being consistent in the NBA," Trent said. "It's your role, your opportunity, your coach's trust. Do they believe in you? Do they run plays for you? Do they put you in certain positions to succeed. Just different type of things. Coach Nurse and his team has been there for me. They've helped me. Gave me a platform and opportunity of a lifetime."

https://www.startribune.com/gary-trent-jr-enjoying-his-best-nba-season-yet-with-toronto-raptors-apple-valley/600244942/?refresh=true

Gary sounds like he is preparing for his next team already. It would explain his urgency to empty the clip lately.

He seems like a good kid honestly. Humble rockstar. Great mentality. Still don't understand why he HAS to be traded instead of retained.

[YogurtProducer]

All I'm saying is that if we trade Trent for a big, I'll be satisfied but also absolutely **** pissed at the front office, because in that case, why didn't we trade Norm for a big right away?

Because maybe the only available bigs were a talent downgrade?

[fbalmeida]

I'm unconvinced that was the case. Even if we presume it was, I'm unconvinced that paying a premium for a solid big wouldn't have been worth it. It's still the most cost effective method of raising the team's floor and getting the defense to work.

[fbalmeida]

Super curious to see how the Bucks handle Brook Lopez's eventual departure.

[mtcan]

I would rather keep Gary and trade Fred at this point. I get that there is a group of haters that don't believe he is part of the core...I believe the opposite. He is a gunner and on a team that struggles to shoot and score...his scoring needed more than ever. He's 24 years old and hasn't yet entered his prime.

I don't want to pay Fred 120 million so would rather trade him.

[Dalek]

"It's just a lot of things, factors of being consistent in the NBA," Trent said. "It's your role, your opportunity, your coach's trust. Do they believe in you? Do they run plays for you? Do they put you in certain positions to succeed. Just different type of things. Coach Nurse and his team has been there for me. They've helped me. Gave me a platform and opportunity of a lifetime."

https://www.startribune.com/gary-trent-jr-enjoying-his-best-nba-season-yet-with-toronto-raptors-apple-valley/600244942/?refresh=true

Gary sounds like he is preparing for his next team already. It would explain his urgency to empty the clip lately.

He seems like a good kid honestly. Humble rockstar. Great mentality. Still don't understand why he HAS to be traded instead of retained.

He is a good player and person for sure. But, he also goes through droughts on his shot and still cannot finish at the rim. To me your two guard should be able to draw fouls a bit more than Gary.

[ciueli]

I completely disagree with this. Having more players under contract allows for more possible permutations in putting together a trade, it's just that simple. For example, in the offseason there was no way we could trade just Scottie + picks + swaps + filler for KD because we didn't have the filler, our filler was players important to our team (Fred, Gary, OG). I'm not saying that would necessarily have gotten a deal done, but from our perspective there was no way for us to end up with a starting 5 of Fred, Gary, OG, Pascal and KD because it was mathematically impossible. That made a trade to win now extremely difficult from our perspective.

A good example of a team that needs to make a deal is the Lakers, if they don't move Russell Westbrook's expiring contract then they lose it in the offseason. They'll have some cap space instead, but it won't be anywhere near the value of Westbrook's contract currently (about $25M vs. $47M) and if they do use cap space they deprive themselves of the MLE. All of that ties their hands if they wait until the offseason to make moves.

Okay well to me Trent isn't a core piece so that's probably where we differ. Trent + Barnes + filler is doable. I get your point if you're saying trent was part of the core.

Trent, Barnes, birch and Flynn plus a couple picks was a no brainer, if available!

It wasn’t enough salary, this is my entire point. The commonly floated trade at the time was OG + Gary + filler + picks because that was the minimum salary required to make the cap math work. Swap Scottie for either OG or Trent and the cap math no longer worked and we didn’t have any other players we could just throw in to make it work.

[Rapsfan07]

I would rather keep Gary and trade Fred at this point. I get that there is a group of haters that don't believe he is part of the core...I believe the opposite. He is a gunner and on a team that struggles to shoot and score...his scoring needed more than ever. He's 24 years old and hasn't yet entered his prime.

I don't want to pay Fred 120 million so would rather trade him.

You definitely want to keep Trent over FVV if you had to keep one. But ideally, you want to move both.

I think Trent is a useful player on a contender looking to get over the top/add some scoring. The issue I personally have with Trent (and I imagine this is likely the same for those that feel the same way I do) is that he doesn't do ANYTHING except shoot. He doesn't rebound, he doesn't pass or make plays, he doesn't drive to the basket, he doesn't get to the foul line. So the question becomes - is it a sensible use of capspace to pay $25M per for a guy who just shoots and is more or less useless when his 3pt shot isn't dropping ?

[RHC]

NBA Trade Deadline Big Board from The Athletic

Excerpt from the article:

"The order listed below is based on a combination of factors: the player’s impact should he be traded, our evaluation of the likelihood of a trade occurring, the “asset value” of the player on his current contract and the level of compensation likely demanded by the player’s current team as part of the swap."

Myles Turner
John Collins
Bojan Bogdanovic
Kyle Kuzma
Immanuel Quickley
Jakob Poeltl
Gary Trent Jr.
Jordan Clarkson
Nikola Vucevic
PJ Washington

"Gary Trent Jr.
Trent Jr., 24, can be an unrestricted free agent this summer after the Toronto Raptors gave him a three-year, $52 million deal two years ago with a player option on Year 3. And it’s a pretty simple equation for Trent Jr. He’s an extremely effective third or fourth option for an offense, but he’s not going to really contribute as a rebounder or passer. Defensively, he’s good in matchups where he can use his strength to body up offensive players but a bit worse when faced with any sort of quickness. Getting him for a playoff run while also getting his Bird rights is worth at least a first-round pick plus something else."

(The list goes 25 deep, there are no other Raptors on it. Given the quality of some of the players and the compensation that the Raptors would look for, it likely means that the Athletic writers see it as low probability that the Raptors will trade FVV, OG or Siakam.)

[agkagk]

Okay well to me Trent isn't a core piece so that's probably where we differ. Trent + Barnes + filler is doable. I get your point if you're saying trent was part of the core.

Trent, Barnes, birch and Flynn plus a couple picks was a no brainer, if available!

It wasn’t enough salary, this is my entire point. The commonly floated trade at the time was OG + Gary + filler + picks because that was the minimum salary required to make the cap math work. Swap Scottie for either OG or Trent and the cap math no longer worked and we didn’t have any other players we could just throw in to make it work.

The trade I mentioned works cap wise bro

[billy_hoyle]

Trent, Barnes, birch and Flynn plus a couple picks was a no brainer, if available!

It wasn’t enough salary, this is my entire point. The commonly floated trade at the time was OG + Gary + filler + picks because that was the minimum salary required to make the cap math work. Swap Scottie for either OG or Trent and the cap math no longer worked and we didn’t have any other players we could just throw in to make it work.

The trade I mentioned works cap wise bro

$33m out, KD makes $44m

That doesn't work

[agkagk]

It wasn’t enough salary, this is my entire point. The commonly floated trade at the time was OG + Gary + filler + picks because that was the minimum salary required to make the cap math work. Swap Scottie for either OG or Trent and the cap math no longer worked and we didn’t have any other players we could just throw in to make it work.

The trade I mentioned works cap wise bro

$33m out, KD makes $44m

That doesn't work

33.9 it’s off by a few hundred grand.

Throw in bo Cruz

[billy_hoyle]

The trade I mentioned works cap wise bro

$33m out, KD makes $44m

That doesn't work

33.9 it’s off by a few hundred grand.

Throw in bo Cruz

Yep that works