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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#1041 » by PoundTown » Sat Jan 21, 2023 2:00 pm

HumbleRen wrote:Gradey Dick and Scottie PNR's >>>>


Gradey seems underrated to me. His skillset would really help us. Seems to be a a rare prospect that could be a truly elite shooter but with good size, IQ, has some toughness, and won't kill you defensively. Basically, I see his ceiling as something closer to Klay with a little lesser but still competent defence. That's a hell of a player. Pure shooter.
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#1042 » by TorontoBarneys » Sat Jan 21, 2023 2:37 pm

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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#1043 » by HumbleRen » Sat Jan 21, 2023 2:38 pm

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HumbleRen wrote:Gradey Dick and Scottie PNR's >>>>


Gradey seems underrated to me. His skillset would really help us. Seems to be a a rare prospect that could be a truly elite shooter but with good size, IQ, has some toughness, and won't kill you defensively. Basically, I see his ceiling as something closer to Klay with a little lesser but still competent defence. That's a hell of a player. Pure shooter.


Would love to get him if we somehow get a 1st round pick via a trade at the deadline.
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#1044 » by dozo » Sat Jan 21, 2023 5:59 pm

God Squad wrote:Which player in the top 10 do you want the Raptors to avoid? Either you don't see it with them, or think there at better options. For me it's the Twins. I just don't know what to make of the footage I've seen. The combine/workouts are going to be huge for them IMO. They have the potential to either solidify themselves at the top, or freefall if they don't stack up against other prospects.

With that said I'm keeping a close eye on Amen in particular. That first step alone, along with this athleticism might make for an exciting prospect.


Jarace Walker: great combination of skill, size and athleticism. I think he can play spot minutes at centre but the raptors have enough forwards.

Besides shooting the raptors desperately need someone who can elevate the play of teammates.

The 3 -14 range has more talent than what I first thought. I agree with you all of those prospects in that range should participate in combine scrimmages/Individual workouts and interviews to avoid dropping.
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#1045 » by Psubs » Sat Jan 21, 2023 6:13 pm

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God Squad wrote:Which player in the top 10 do you want the Raptors to avoid? Either you don't see it with them, or think there at better options. For me it's the Twins. I just don't know what to make of the footage I've seen. The combine/workouts are going to be huge for them IMO. They have the potential to either solidify themselves at the top, or freefall if they don't stack up against other prospects.

With that said I'm keeping a close eye on Amen in particular. That first step alone, along with this athleticism might make for an exciting prospect.


Jarace Walker: great combination of skill, size and athleticism. I think he can play spot minutes at centre but the raptors have enough forwards.

Besides shooting the raptors desperately need someone who can elevate the play of teammates.

The 3 -14 range has more talent than what I first thought. I agree with you all of those prospects in that range should participate in combine scrimmages/Individual workouts and interviews to avoid dropping.


Do not want: Walker, Smith Jr, Black.

https://www.nbadraft.net/nba-mock-drafts/

Whoa, they have Black and Dick going 4 and 5.
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#1046 » by CanadaB-Ball » Sat Jan 21, 2023 6:16 pm

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God Squad wrote:Which player in the top 10 do you want the Raptors to avoid? Either you don't see it with them, or think there at better options. For me it's the Twins. I just don't know what to make of the footage I've seen. The combine/workouts are going to be huge for them IMO. They have the potential to either solidify themselves at the top, or freefall if they don't stack up against other prospects.

With that said I'm keeping a close eye on Amen in particular. That first step alone, along with this athleticism might make for an exciting prospect.


Jarace Walker: great combination of skill, size and athleticism. I think he can play spot minutes at centre but the raptors have enough forwards.

Besides shooting the raptors desperately need someone who can elevate the play of teammates.

The 3 -14 range has more talent than what I first thought. I agree with you all of those prospects in that range should participate in combine scrimmages/Individual workouts and interviews to avoid dropping.


He’s not a great fit, but Walker’s my favourite prospect outside of Wemby, Scoot and Amen. I think he’s got a real chance to be special.
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#1047 » by WuTang_CMB » Sat Jan 21, 2023 6:37 pm

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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#1048 » by raptor jesus » Sat Jan 21, 2023 6:48 pm

Gradey Dick and Cason Wallace seem like guys you can pencil in for 10+ seasons in the NBA if they stay healthy i.e. high floor. Still making my way thru some of the guys w/ projected higher ceilings.
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#1049 » by ItsDanger » Sat Jan 21, 2023 7:02 pm

Whenever I watch college ball on Saturday, all I can think about is we need more picks.
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#1050 » by NotMyKawhi » Sat Jan 21, 2023 7:05 pm

flip is so underrated.

Wouldn't be shocked if he went top 10
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#1051 » by ItsDanger » Sat Jan 21, 2023 7:09 pm

https://www.the-looney-bin.com/nbadraft/the-shaun-livingston-pipeline-big-creators-and-anthony-black

I expect he goes in 10-14 range but who knows really. It's important we acquire a pick in this range somehow. Pairing him with Scottie means you get 48 minutes of high BBIQ floor management, with size.
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#1052 » by PhilBlackson » Sat Jan 21, 2023 7:11 pm

CanadaB-Ball wrote:
dozo wrote:
God Squad wrote:Which player in the top 10 do you want the Raptors to avoid? Either you don't see it with them, or think there at better options. For me it's the Twins. I just don't know what to make of the footage I've seen. The combine/workouts are going to be huge for them IMO. They have the potential to either solidify themselves at the top, or freefall if they don't stack up against other prospects.

With that said I'm keeping a close eye on Amen in particular. That first step alone, along with this athleticism might make for an exciting prospect.


Jarace Walker: great combination of skill, size and athleticism. I think he can play spot minutes at centre but the raptors have enough forwards.

Besides shooting the raptors desperately need someone who can elevate the play of teammates.

The 3 -14 range has more talent than what I first thought. I agree with you all of those prospects in that range should participate in combine scrimmages/Individual workouts and interviews to avoid dropping.


He’s not a great fit, but Walker’s my favourite prospect outside of Wemby, Scoot and Amen. I think he’s got a real chance to be special.


I wouldn't say my favourite outside of those 2 per say, I do think Miller is such an ideal piece with Scottie (just makes me dream of also trading OG for Trey Murphy III & LAL pick buuuut I'll leave that alone). Miller's shooting & floor spacing I think is currently making him my favourite non Vic & Scoot pick BUT he is up there with Whitmore & Ausar for me.

I just absolutely love what he is defensively (seems very Draymond-ish) but yet is shooting near 40% from 3, shows some flashes of shot creation AND is a very underrated passer. I'd be beyond happy to draft him. Any of the previous names I've mentioned in this post & I'd feel like we damn near won in the lottery too, with Keyonte & Black being the other 2 guys that I'd still feel like it was all worth the rough year which is like 8+ players that to me I MUCH rather have than trying to senselessly go after a crappy PlayIn spot.
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#1053 » by PhilBlackson » Sat Jan 21, 2023 7:18 pm

TorontoBarneys wrote:Scoot keeps posting Raps related stuff. Scoottie manifesting itself bit by bit.

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My brain won't even allow me to imagine getting one of Vic or Scoot lol but daaaaamn if we got either.

Scoot would make us like an even BETTER version of the Grizz (yeah I said it), Pascal is better than Bane, OG is better than Brooks, JJJ might have the slight lead over Scottie in this moment but I'm taking Scottie long term. If the team got threw a bunch of money at Myles Turner, that team would be in the conversation probably ever year after Scoot's rookie (because even the best rooks need at least a season or two to REALLY get acclimated to the league).

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Someone needs to manifest that going into next season lol but I'd "settle" for OG/Pascal/Scottie/Vic too..
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#1054 » by CanadaB-Ball » Sat Jan 21, 2023 7:19 pm

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CanadaB-Ball wrote:
dozo wrote:
Jarace Walker: great combination of skill, size and athleticism. I think he can play spot minutes at centre but the raptors have enough forwards.

Besides shooting the raptors desperately need someone who can elevate the play of teammates.

The 3 -14 range has more talent than what I first thought. I agree with you all of those prospects in that range should participate in combine scrimmages/Individual workouts and interviews to avoid dropping.


He’s not a great fit, but Walker’s my favourite prospect outside of Wemby, Scoot and Amen. I think he’s got a real chance to be special.


I wouldn't say my favourite outside of those 2 per say, I do think Miller is such an ideal piece with Scottie (just makes me dream of also trading OG for Trey Murphy III & LAL pick buuuut I'll leave that alone). Miller's shooting & floor spacing I think is currently making him my favourite non Vic & Scoot pick BUT he is up there with Whitmore & Ausar for me.

I just absolutely love what he is defensively (seems very Draymond-ish) but yet is shooting near 40% from 3, shows some flashes of shot creation AND is a very underrated passer. I'd be beyond happy to draft him. Any of the previous names I've mentioned in this post & I'd feel like we damn near won in the lottery too, with Keyonte & Black being the other 2 guys that I'd still feel like it was all worth the rough year which is like 8+ players that to me I MUCH rather have than trying to senselessly go after a crappy PlayIn spot.


For me, Wemby, Scoot and Amen are a clear top-3 (with each having their own tier). I know a lot of people have Miller as the third best prospect in this draft, which is understandable— he’s climbed up to number 6 (and might end up #4 or 5) for me, so I understand the appeal.

Walker’s movement skills at his size are really, really impressive, and the touch he has on his floaters is extraordinary. I really like the shot creation upside, and obviously his defense looks like it’ll be elite. I think he ends up being one of the top-5 players from this class, but only time will tell.
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#1055 » by Psubs » Sat Jan 21, 2023 7:20 pm

raptor jesus wrote:Gradey Dick and Cason Wallace seem like guys you can pencil in for 10+ seasons in the NBA if they stay healthy i.e. high floor. Still making my way thru some of the guys w/ projected higher ceilings.


I can see Cason as Jrue and Dick as a more dynamic Kyle Korver.
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#1056 » by WuTang_CMB » Sat Jan 21, 2023 7:34 pm

if Kris is anything like his brother, we should take him top 10

highly intelligent players with talent. just know how to play. those kids were coached well.
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#1057 » by PhilBlackson » Sat Jan 21, 2023 7:34 pm

CanadaB-Ball wrote:
PhilBlackson wrote:
CanadaB-Ball wrote:
He’s not a great fit, but Walker’s my favourite prospect outside of Wemby, Scoot and Amen. I think he’s got a real chance to be special.


I wouldn't say my favourite outside of those 2 per say, I do think Miller is such an ideal piece with Scottie (just makes me dream of also trading OG for Trey Murphy III & LAL pick buuuut I'll leave that alone). Miller's shooting & floor spacing I think is currently making him my favourite non Vic & Scoot pick BUT he is up there with Whitmore & Ausar for me.

I just absolutely love what he is defensively (seems very Draymond-ish) but yet is shooting near 40% from 3, shows some flashes of shot creation AND is a very underrated passer. I'd be beyond happy to draft him. Any of the previous names I've mentioned in this post & I'd feel like we damn near won in the lottery too, with Keyonte & Black being the other 2 guys that I'd still feel like it was all worth the rough year which is like 8+ players that to me I MUCH rather have than trying to senselessly go after a crappy PlayIn spot.


For me, Wemby, Scoot and Amen are a clear top-3 (with each having their own tier). I know a lot of people have Miller as the third best prospect in this draft, which is understandable— he’s climbed up to number 6 (and might end up #4 or 5) for me, so I understand the appeal.

Walker’s movement skills at his size are really, really impressive, and the touch he has on his floaters is extraordinary. I really like the shot creation upside, and obviously his defense looks like it’ll be elite. I think he ends up being one of the top-5 players from this class, but only time will tell.


Hey I'm with you on it being possible! I LOVE Jarace Walker as a prospect and tbh I think why I just have had the hardest time putting him over Cam & Ausar is he didn't come in with the same pre-college hype as the other two which I understand isn't really a fair reason not to lol. I don't even say that I necessarily think Miller is the better prospect, I'm just maybe too infactuated with the idea of putting shooters around Scottie to open up the court more ala GSW with Dray.

But coming into the college season I LOVED him as a prospect after I watched some vids of him at IMG when he had a bigger role offensively and tbh I couldn't understand why he wasn't considered a top 5 pick. But he also started out quite slowly & just blended in with the rest of the squad because obviously HOU wants to really compete & make the Final Four (if they do I think his stock will explode especially if he continues to do more offensively). But since he's been coming back on (pulling a Scottie lol), he's reminding me why I loved his game coming in.

What I'll say about him, is I think he is the SAFEST non Vic & Scoot pick that also has great upside. At worst you've added another ELITE defender that will help BOTH on the perimeter & at the rim that will continue to help spread the floor. I can see a world where if Cam's shot isn't dropping, he's not quite Okoro bad but not as good as you may hope & Ausar just may be a real LONG term project that takes a few years before you really start getting the results you hoped for. Jarace will be plug & play then you wait to see if he can show more of what he did at IMG at expand his upside offensively but I'm with you on TeamJarace (I've actually changed that in my sig now until Baba can shake some rust & show me he's the guy from the highlights & not just FSU Bruno lol).
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#1058 » by Psubs » Sat Jan 21, 2023 7:42 pm

WuTang_OG wrote:if Kris is anything like his brother, we should take him top 10

highly intelligent players with talent. just know how to play. those kids were coached well.


Kris is a 22 year old junior. I think Jett Howard is Kris with playmaking skills.

I think Portland could take him as high as #9 and I think won't get past the Clippers and Warriors at 16 and 17.
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#1059 » by PhilBlackson » Sat Jan 21, 2023 7:43 pm

WuTang_OG wrote:if Kris is anything like his brother, we should take him top 10

highly intelligent players with talent. just know how to play. those kids were coached well.


I don't think I'd take him top 10 tbh, although I do think he'd be a very good pick just outside the lottery.

Vic
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Walker
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George
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Howard
Wallace

No disrespect to Kris but I'd take just about any of those guys rather easily over him and I still wouldn't feel all that confident taking him over GG Jackson (he might bump out one of Howard or Wallace -- all really close for me), Maxwell Lewis or Dariq Whitehead.
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#1060 » by WuTang_CMB » Sat Jan 21, 2023 7:46 pm

Psubs wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:if Kris is anything like his brother, we should take him top 10

highly intelligent players with talent. just know how to play. those kids were coached well.


Kris is a 22 year old junior. I think Jett Howard is Kris with playmaking skills.

I think Portland could take him as high as #9 and I think won't get past the Clippers and Warriors at 16 and 17.


They are totally different players.

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