Joel: unchained.

[mjkvol]

Im not here rooting for Embiid to be MVP.
Im here to root for the Sixers to win the championship.

What are you rooting for?

Obviously Embiid winning MVP.

Maybe they’re more concerned to have Embiid being the best center in the league (over jokic and giannis) than the Sixers winning the championship?

That's the most important thing obviously.

It's a really hard thing to accomplish, but you've actually jumped the shark as far as being a troll.

At what point do you finally quit out of embarrassment? Silly question, as trolls have no sense of shame, they thrive on it.

[Bum Adebayo]

Im not here rooting for Embiid to be MVP.
Im here to root for the Sixers to win the championship.

What are you rooting for?

Obviously Embiid winning MVP.

Maybe they’re more concerned to have Embiid being the best center in the league (over jokic and giannis) than the Sixers winning the championship?

That's the most important thing obviously.

It's a really hard thing to accomplish, but you've actually jumped the shark as far as being a troll.

At what point do you finally quit out of embarrassment? Silly question, as trolls have no sense of shame, they thrive on it.

He asked a good question and I answered honestly. I am an Embiid fan first and foremost, what's wrong with that? obviously this does not mean I'm not a Sixers fan, I absolutely am, but Embiid is 1st priority for me.
This is nothing new, we got like 2-3 new fans solely because of the Harden trade, if Harden can have bandwagon fans now what, Embiid can't have them too?

[Negrodamus]

It's a really hard thing to accomplish, but you've actually jumped the shark as far as being a troll.

At what point do you finally quit out of embarrassment? Silly question, as trolls have no sense of shame, they thrive on it.

At the end of the day, I don't really understand the purpose of coming to a Sixers board every day to make almost the same troll remark about Embiid. Seems like a massive waste of time for little to no reward.

Even if the feelings are genuine about Embiid, they weren't for so long that no further post can be taken with any ounce of sincerity.

[mjkvol]

It's a really hard thing to accomplish, but you've actually jumped the shark as far as being a troll.

At what point do you finally quit out of embarrassment? Silly question, as trolls have no sense of shame, they thrive on it.

At the end of the day, I don't really understand the purpose of coming to a Sixers board every day to make almost the same troll remark about Embiid. Seems like a massive waste of time for little to no reward.

Even if the feelings are genuine about Embiid, they weren't for so long that no further post can be taken with any ounce of sincerity.

The truly pathetic thing is that his only reward is exactly what we're doing - responding to and talking about him.

[Dnt hate]

I just don't get why so many ppl on the gb hate Embiid so much. Just going to make it that much sweeter when he wins a fkin finals mvp

[Murray_17]

At the end of the day, I don't really understand the purpose of coming to a Sixers board every day to make almost the same troll remark about Embiid. Seems like a massive waste of time for little to no reward.

Even if the feelings are genuine about Embiid, they weren't for so long that no further post can be taken with any ounce of sincerity.

I mean, have you seen the weird Ben-obsessed poster with the creepy avatar on the general board? This forum is weird

[Negrodamus]

At the end of the day, I don't really understand the purpose of coming to a Sixers board every day to make almost the same troll remark about Embiid. Seems like a massive waste of time for little to no reward.

Even if the feelings are genuine about Embiid, they weren't for so long that no further post can be taken with any ounce of sincerity.

I mean, have you seen… the general board

No.

[Bum Adebayo]

There are always worse posters out there lol

[HardenToSixers]

Serious question because I haven't watched as many games as usual this year to be frank.

I know that Embiid is a monster, and particularly raises our postseason potential to go on a run because he can be so dominant offensively which you need in this league. This is partially offset by it being difficult to play through a big man in crunch time, especially when Harden and Embiid are both foul reliant, but we can put that to the side.

That being said, are we really maximizing our ability by playing through him?

1) Would we be better suited to run a more motion-heavy offense and replace Embiid with highly talented player(s) who can play within that scheme?
2) Does our surrounding cast play better without Embiid or is that a normal phenomenon/am I imagining things?
3) Is Embiid focusing more on iso-offensive output and less on defensive output and generating easy buckets his problem or the coaching staff's fault? Do we think that a better coaching staff could better integrate Embiid into a more efficient, less Embiid-ball-dominant offense?
4) Am I the only one who thinks that you can trace a lot of the problems with the team at times back to Embiid, or is everybody around Embiid not cut out for it, or is it somewhere in the middle?

Not trying to troll - just have legitimate concerns with the team this year given what I expect to happen in the playoffs and I personally hold Embiid accountable for a chunk of it, even though I know he puts up monster numbers and individually wills us to wins that we don't deserve too often. Hoping to get some insights on where I may be right or wrong.

[rzzzzz]

Serious question because I haven't watched as many games as usual this year to be frank.

I know that Embiid is a monster, and particularly raises our postseason potential to go on a run because he can be so dominant offensively which you need in this league. This is partially offset by it being difficult to play through a big man in crunch time, especially when Harden and Embiid are both foul reliant, but we can put that to the side.

That being said, are we really maximizing our ability by playing through him?

1) Would we be better suited to run a more motion-heavy offense and replace Embiid with highly talented player(s) who can play within that scheme?
2) Does our surrounding cast play better without Embiid or is that a normal phenomenon/am I imagining things?
3) Is Embiid focusing more on iso-offensive output and less on defensive output and generating easy buckets his problem or the coaching staff's fault? Do we think that a better coaching staff could better integrate Embiid into a more efficient, less Embiid-ball-dominant offense?
4) Am I the only one who thinks that you can trace a lot of the problems with the team at times back to Embiid, or is everybody around Embiid not cut out for it, or is it somewhere in the middle?

Not trying to troll - just have legitimate concerns with the team this year given what I expect to happen in the playoffs and I personally hold Embiid accountable for a chunk of it, even though I know he puts up monster numbers and individually wills us to wins that we don't deserve too often. Hoping to get some insights on where I may be right or wrong.

Given that the playoffs is a whole different beast than the regular season, I’d love to see a healthy Embiid lead a competitive team in the post season at least once. With defenses cranked up in slow half-court action, his size and skill should shine.

[HardenToSixers]

Serious question because I haven't watched as many games as usual this year to be frank.

I know that Embiid is a monster, and particularly raises our postseason potential to go on a run because he can be so dominant offensively which you need in this league. This is partially offset by it being difficult to play through a big man in crunch time, especially when Harden and Embiid are both foul reliant, but we can put that to the side.

That being said, are we really maximizing our ability by playing through him?

1) Would we be better suited to run a more motion-heavy offense and replace Embiid with highly talented player(s) who can play within that scheme?
2) Does our surrounding cast play better without Embiid or is that a normal phenomenon/am I imagining things?
3) Is Embiid focusing more on iso-offensive output and less on defensive output and generating easy buckets his problem or the coaching staff's fault? Do we think that a better coaching staff could better integrate Embiid into a more efficient, less Embiid-ball-dominant offense?
4) Am I the only one who thinks that you can trace a lot of the problems with the team at times back to Embiid, or is everybody around Embiid not cut out for it, or is it somewhere in the middle?

Not trying to troll - just have legitimate concerns with the team this year given what I expect to happen in the playoffs and I personally hold Embiid accountable for a chunk of it, even though I know he puts up monster numbers and individually wills us to wins that we don't deserve too often. Hoping to get some insights on where I may be right or wrong.

Given that the playoffs is a whole different beast than the regular season, I’d love to see a healthy Embiid lead a competitive team in the post season at least once. With defenses cranked up in slow half-court action, his size and skill should shine.

I hear what you're saying as far as him getting very unlucky with the timing of illnesses, injuries, etc. at key moments in the playoffs. I actually stand up for him in a lot of those instances as I believe it was truly bad luck.

He has had moments where he's been fully healthy and had the chance to step up. He's had some stinkers against tough matchups (Gasol or Horford) and had his share of highs as well. On the whole, his numbers are actually usually pretty good despite the reputation some try to give him. All that said, the moments where we've needed him to step up he hasn't always done so as reliably as we would like. Although Simmons is to blame for sure, we need to point to team construction and thus him for a large part of our inability to create efficient half-court offense.

I'm happy to give Embiid another chance or more because he is truly one of my favorite players ever and nothing would be happier than winning a ring with him, but also objectively have concerns and wondering what best steps are.

[Mik317]

I reiterate.

Basketball is a team sport.

People love to romanticise this idea of a star player putting the team on their backs and just carrying them to a chip but that isn't how it works. Like Bron came damn close some years but only won due to his co stars also stepping up. Kyrie made that big shot. Kevin **** Love turned into a lockdown defender on Steph lol. Its how it goes.

Biid's co stars have come up short and really never got big performances from any random players either sans Maxey last year against Toronto. Jimmy is the constant outlier as he has proven to be a dude who steps it up in the playoffs but sadly that team was vanquished by Kawhii going **** lol. Add in Biid's terrible ass luck in which he is never above 75% come most second rounds and thats that.

HOWEVER this does not absolve him of his own role in it too IMO. IMO its simply harder for big guys to be the main option in the clutch. Refs don't like to call fouls then, its easier to strip the ball away and it also takes up a lot of time. That being said, I also think Biid is just sloppy in those situations too often...be it trying to do too much or ironically lazering in too hard and thus becoming oblivious to the defense. I also think his first instinct at contact being to flop hurts him in these spots too...its one of his worst traits IMO. I also think he has this mindset that he HAS to do everything or else .. maybe that came from Ben not being that guy or the dumbasses who go "best player? Gotta win it on your own" **** when sometimes the right answer is to trust your teammates a bit.

again tho I think that Bucks run is the blueprint for how we are going to do this. Giannis hit walls the years prior. Took a step back, allowed Jrue to run most of the offense and became the play finisher rather than play maker. Middleton was the closer for the team as well. Bropez also allowed Giannis to roam on defense. PJ (lol) allowed him to not always be the guy defending the best players. And the team had enough shooting around him to give him space.

Biid is not Giannis but the idea is the same. Harden is the guy who should run the offense. We have shooters (I think we need more movement ones tho). Still no real closer as I don't think Harden is that. Don't really want Biid to roam so maybe we need to get someone who can. PJ is washed. And Biid still thinks he's a PG lol. So yeah not looking good on that front.

I think you can build a championship winning team around Biid or a great big man in the modern NBA. You however need to have a FO and coaching staff up to the task of building said roster....we have not had that. Past GMS used up our warchest; Morey spent most of his time fixing past mistakes and then kinda just gave up lol. Doc is Doc. It is what it is. I also think the Nuggets CAN in theory win it all too but again its going to require either Murray to return to playoff form or MPJ to actually be good because come playoff time teams are going to either see if Jokic can solo (which I don't think he likes to do) or make those guys beat them. Playoff time is when teams get to dig in and gameplan more...Guards and Wings simply have more ways to pivot than big dudes.

So yeah there is a lot that goes into it. I don't think this team and FO will overcome it tho

[Bum Adebayo]

Basketball is a team sport, but with Embiid it's worth it to do anything for him, he is THAT good, all it takes is putting the right pieces around him and let him work.

[rzzzzz]

Basketball is a team sport, but with Embiid it's worth it to do anything for him, he is THAT good, all it takes is putting the right pieces around him and let him work.

As much as I wish Darryl had done the Haliburton deal, there is periodic evidence that Harden could be a functional catalyst in a well schemed playbook, especially with the welcome addition of Melton to the promise of Maxey, the renewed utility of Shake and the quietly adapting Tobi. And if things don’t get done this season, I still believe its easier to change a coach than a roster, and then would give it another chance. Because Embiid is that good. I grieve the unwise loss of Jimmy as much as anybody else, but as solid as he was, the team was still riding Embiid, gimpy and sick as he was. The only playoff I can remember him not gimpy was the following year, when everyone was sheltered, and Ben went down for the season. Frankly, I think Biid was still steamed at Brett over Jimmy. Besides the lack of a coherent scheme and lousy chemistry. Even so, it was a mistake for him not to turn it up to 11 when he had the chance. I hope this year he gets another.

[Stanford]

The General Board continues to be populated by the absolute dumbest people on earth. Drooling simpletons.

[Murray_17]

There is a thread on the general board about why Cleveland need to trade Garland to win a title. So yeah, not much to say on the intelligence department

[eyeatoma]

The General Board continues to be populated by the absolute dumbest people on earth. Drooling simpletons.

It's the Nuggets board, we need to stop calling it the GB. Those idiots have literally no where else to go, have you seen the size of their board?

[Bum Adebayo]

Hakeem wished to have Embiid's insane scoring efficiency for sure, it wasn't much higher than league average.

[Bum Adebayo]

The General Board continues to be populated by the absolute dumbest people on earth. Drooling simpletons.

It's the Nuggets board, we need to stop calling it the GB. Those idiots have literally no where else to go, have you seen the size of their board?

Besides, they managed to put Jokic in the debate, even though Embiid said nothing about Jokic lol

[Negrodamus]

The General Board continues to be populated by the absolute dumbest people on earth. Drooling simpletons.

While I’d like to see Embiid get a little more aggressive in the post, he’s absolutely right. It’s not the same physical league where Shaq dominated anymore, so post defense is essentially offensive foul baiting. I also don’t really know what these players want from Embiid: he draws fouls at an elite clip, he’s scoring efficiently, and he takes what the defense offers all while not getting absolutely punished every night.