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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread 

Post#1301 » by anotherhomer » Sat Jan 21, 2023 9:08 pm

Syd-TK3 wrote:Think the only possible way to get a player and a pick for Gary is the Knicks.
If we really moving OG you try and create a bidding war between Pels and Kings
Fred's options are Phx, Orlando and Pelicans too maybe somebody left field


Pelicans, Kings, and Memphis
add in Blazers if they still want to throw in the hat into the ring
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Post#1302 » by anotherhomer » Sat Jan 21, 2023 9:09 pm

WuTang_OG wrote:whats funny is that the media behind the scenes (devlin, paul jones, eric smith and now Leo) are now critisizing this team and calling for trades / tank. It started beginning of the week.

During games this talk is no where to be found, not even criticism of players for their play.

Late to the party boys

https://www.tsn.ca/radio/toronto-1050/rautins-if-this-was-my-team-no-one-would-be-safe-1.1908735.

also nice little add on from leo: "masai and presti dont have the greatest working relationship from what iv seen" lol which makes sense, masai took a shot at him end of yr presser.


i do wonder if there's build in support from everyone like ESPN media (the 10 year run), Raps media, and possibly MLSE now for the necessarily rebuild
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Post#1303 » by Los_29 » Sat Jan 21, 2023 9:47 pm

I think they should really consider moving OG if he's worth as much as what has been reported.

islandboy53 wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:
Sidthekid87 wrote:
He has a desire to get better and is 24. That's the kind of guy you pay. It's either him getting 25 or Fred getting 32-35. I wouldn't give Fred more then 15 million if I had my way.


I wouldnt give either that money.


Agreed. Fred's been given the keys for 2 seasons now, and has shown that he just isn't the guy. You can blame that on the supporting cast as much as you want, but I think it's easier to build around the rest of the core using pieces you can get for him than trade a different art of the core and build around Fred. Same kind of reasoning applies to Gary. Time to move on from both if we can.


Who in the world wants to build around Fred? :lol: No team believes that. Fred is and was always a guy that is best suited as a team's 4th-5th best player.
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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread 

Post#1304 » by Raptors_128 » Sat Jan 21, 2023 10:01 pm

Los_29 wrote:I think they should really consider moving OG if he's worth as much as what has been reported.

islandboy53 wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:
I wouldnt give either that money.


Agreed. Fred's been given the keys for 2 seasons now, and has shown that he just isn't the guy. You can blame that on the supporting cast as much as you want, but I think it's easier to build around the rest of the core using pieces you can get for him than trade a different art of the core and build around Fred. Same kind of reasoning applies to Gary. Time to move on from both if we can.


Who in the world wants to build around Fred? :lol: No team believes that. Fred is and was always a guy that is best suited as a team's 4th-5th best player.


Whoa, I had to do a double take after seeing this post and your username Lol
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Post#1305 » by Los_29 » Sat Jan 21, 2023 10:05 pm

Raptors_128 wrote:
Los_29 wrote:I think they should really consider moving OG if he's worth as much as what has been reported.

islandboy53 wrote:
Agreed. Fred's been given the keys for 2 seasons now, and has shown that he just isn't the guy. You can blame that on the supporting cast as much as you want, but I think it's easier to build around the rest of the core using pieces you can get for him than trade a different art of the core and build around Fred. Same kind of reasoning applies to Gary. Time to move on from both if we can.


Who in the world wants to build around Fred? :lol: No team believes that. Fred is and was always a guy that is best suited as a team's 4th-5th best player.


Whoa, I had to do a double take after seeing this post and your username Lol


That says a lot about the amount of misinformation that gets tossed around here. Lol.
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Post#1306 » by DelAbbot » Sat Jan 21, 2023 10:22 pm

Los_29 wrote:
Raptors_128 wrote:
Los_29 wrote:I think they should really consider moving OG if he's worth as much as what has been reported.



Who in the world wants to build around Fred? :lol: No team believes that. Fred is and was always a guy that is best suited as a team's 4th-5th best player.


Whoa, I had to do a double take after seeing this post and your username Lol


That says a lot about the amount of misinformation that gets tossed around here. Lol.


Yes everyone agrees with this statement
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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread 

Post#1307 » by Syd-TK3 » Sat Jan 21, 2023 10:30 pm

anotherhomer wrote:
Syd-TK3 wrote:Think the only possible way to get a player and a pick for Gary is the Knicks.
If we really moving OG you try and create a bidding war between Pels and Kings
Fred's options are Phx, Orlando and Pelicans too maybe somebody left field


Pelicans, Kings, and Memphis
add in Blazers if they still want to throw in the hat into the ring

Memphis I wouldn't really consider cause their picks are not going to be high they too young of a team.
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Post#1308 » by navyblue » Sat Jan 21, 2023 11:32 pm

Syd-TK3 wrote:
anotherhomer wrote:
Syd-TK3 wrote:Think the only possible way to get a player and a pick for Gary is the Knicks.
If we really moving OG you try and create a bidding war between Pels and Kings
Fred's options are Phx, Orlando and Pelicans too maybe somebody left field


Pelicans, Kings, and Memphis
add in Blazers if they still want to throw in the hat into the ring

Memphis I wouldn't really consider cause their picks are not going to be high they too young of a team.

They have gsw pick next year. Could be an interesting gamble pick.
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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread 

Post#1309 » by Syd-TK3 » Sat Jan 21, 2023 11:34 pm

navyblue wrote:
Syd-TK3 wrote:
anotherhomer wrote:
Pelicans, Kings, and Memphis
add in Blazers if they still want to throw in the hat into the ring

Memphis I wouldn't really consider cause their picks are not going to be high they too young of a team.

They have gsw pick next year. Could be an interesting gamble pick.

If it's top 3 or unprotected then maybe. I didn't know they had that pick
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Post#1310 » by navyblue » Sat Jan 21, 2023 11:37 pm

Syd-TK3 wrote:
navyblue wrote:
Syd-TK3 wrote:Memphis I wouldn't really consider cause their picks are not going to be high they too young of a team.

They have gsw pick next year. Could be an interesting gamble pick.

If it's top 3 or unprotected then maybe. I didn't know they had that pick

Top 4 protected next year 2025 unprotected

The griz got it all those years ago as gsw had to salary dump iggy to them to complete the Durant/dangleo Russell s&t.
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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread 

Post#1311 » by Syd-TK3 » Sat Jan 21, 2023 11:45 pm

navyblue wrote:
Syd-TK3 wrote:
navyblue wrote:They have gsw pick next year. Could be an interesting gamble pick.

If it's top 3 or unprotected then maybe. I didn't know they had that pick

Top 4 protected next year 2025 unprotected

The griz got it all those years ago as gsw had to salary dump iggy to them to complete the Durant/dangleo Russell s&t.

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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread 

Post#1312 » by Syd-TK3 » Sat Jan 21, 2023 11:55 pm

Wrong thread
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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread 

Post#1313 » by WuTang_CMB » Sun Jan 22, 2023 12:21 am

update. on pace for 24-32

(17-23)

Jan 10 - Charlotte - W (18-23)
Jan 12 - Charlotte - W (19-23)
Jan 14 - Atlanta - W .... Loss (19-24)
Jan 16 - @ NY - L .... Win (20-24)
Jan 17 - @ Milwaukee - L (20-25)
Jan 19 - @ Minnesota - L (20-26)
Jan 21 - Boston - L (20-27)

Jan 22 - NY - W
Jan 25 - @ Sacramento - L
Jan 27 - @ G.S. - L
Jan 28 - @ Portland - L
Jan 30 - @ Phoenix - L
Feb 1 - @ Utah - W
Feb 3 - @ Houston - W
Feb 5 - @ Memphis - L
Feb 8 - San Antonio - W

Feb 9 = Trade Deadline.

7-9 record as per above (24-32). But lets say we get 2 extra wins and go 9-7 instead, we would be (26-30).

To put things in perspective on Feb 9 of last year (deadline was Feb 10), our record was 30-23.
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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread 

Post#1314 » by PhilBlackson » Sun Jan 22, 2023 1:01 am

WuTang_OG wrote:update. on pace for 24-32

(17-23)

Jan 10 - Charlotte - W (18-23)
Jan 12 - Charlotte - W (19-23)
Jan 14 - Atlanta - W .... Loss (19-24)
Jan 16 - @ NY - L .... Win (20-24)
Jan 17 - @ Milwaukee - L (20-25)
Jan 19 - @ Minnesota - L (20-26)
Jan 21 - Boston - L (20-27)

Jan 22 - NY - W
Jan 25 - @ Sacramento - L
Jan 27 - @ G.S. - L
Jan 28 - @ Portland - L
Jan 30 - @ Phoenix - L
Feb 1 - @ Utah - W
Feb 3 - @ Houston - W
Feb 5 - @ Memphis - L
Feb 8 - San Antonio - W

Feb 9 = Trade Deadline.

7-9 record as per above (24-32). But lets say we get 2 extra wins and go 9-7 instead, we would be (26-30).

To put things in perspective on Feb 9 of last year (deadline was Feb 10), our record was 30-23.


Unless we are getting lowballed (which every report has said is NOT the case), then I have no idea what else there is to wait on & what they could possibly feel they still need to see.
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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread 

Post#1315 » by WuTang_CMB » Sun Jan 22, 2023 1:03 am

PhilBlackson wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:update. on pace for 24-32

(17-23)

Jan 10 - Charlotte - W (18-23)
Jan 12 - Charlotte - W (19-23)
Jan 14 - Atlanta - W .... Loss (19-24)
Jan 16 - @ NY - L .... Win (20-24)
Jan 17 - @ Milwaukee - L (20-25)
Jan 19 - @ Minnesota - L (20-26)
Jan 21 - Boston - L (20-27)

Jan 22 - NY - W
Jan 25 - @ Sacramento - L
Jan 27 - @ G.S. - L
Jan 28 - @ Portland - L
Jan 30 - @ Phoenix - L
Feb 1 - @ Utah - W
Feb 3 - @ Houston - W
Feb 5 - @ Memphis - L
Feb 8 - San Antonio - W

Feb 9 = Trade Deadline.

7-9 record as per above (24-32). But lets say we get 2 extra wins and go 9-7 instead, we would be (26-30).

To put things in perspective on Feb 9 of last year (deadline was Feb 10), our record was 30-23.


Unless we are getting lowballed (which every report has said is NOT the case), then I have no idea what else there is to wait on & what they could possibly feel they still need to see.


I'd guess the offers would get better closer to deadline. still 3 weeks away. we gotta make good on these deal(s)
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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread 

Post#1316 » by Tha Cynic » Sun Jan 22, 2023 1:05 am

Would Cleveland do Evan Mobley + for Pascal Siakam? It would vault them into the best team in the East IMO.
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Post#1317 » by SurgeIblocka » Sun Jan 22, 2023 1:06 am

All the best deals usually happen before the deadline. Its usually desperation on the deadline and taking whatever best offer is on the table. Also other teams can come snatch the player you want in desperation. I’d rather make a deal before the deadline
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Post#1318 » by hyper316 » Sun Jan 22, 2023 1:07 am

Tha Cynic wrote:Would Cleveland do Evan Mobley + for Pascal Siakam? It would vault them into the best team in the East IMO.


Mobley + Love for Pascal, I'd do it, not sure Cavs tho
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Post#1319 » by SurgeIblocka » Sun Jan 22, 2023 1:08 am

hyper316 wrote:
Tha Cynic wrote:Would Cleveland do Evan Mobley + for Pascal Siakam? It would vault them into the best team in the East IMO.


Mobley + Love for Pascal, I'd do it, not sure Cavs tho


I would do it in the summer after we know our draft position. If we are getting Victor miraculously, then no need for Mobley
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Post#1320 » by Tha Cynic » Sun Jan 22, 2023 1:08 am

hyper316 wrote:
Tha Cynic wrote:Would Cleveland do Evan Mobley + for Pascal Siakam? It would vault them into the best team in the East IMO.


Mobley + Love for Pascal, I'd do it, not sure Cavs tho


I would even give them more to sweeten the pot. Barnes, Mobley and a much higher first round picks is a great starting point.
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