Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread

[hyper316]

All the best deals usually happen before the deadline. Its usually desperation on the deadline and taking whatever best offer is on the table. Also other teams can come snatch the player you want in desperation. I’d rather make a deal before the deadline

Gobert and Mitchell happened in offseason, those were the biggest deals this past year

[ATLTimekeeper]

All the best deals usually happen before the deadline. Its usually desperation on the deadline and taking whatever best offer is on the table. Also other teams can come snatch the player you want in desperation. I’d rather make a deal before the deadline

Big deals usually come before because they're harder to put together. If there's something already on the table and it's just a matter of quality/amount of picks I think that would come at the deadline.

[Tha Cynic]

Would Cleveland do Evan Mobley + for Pascal Siakam? It would vault them into the best team in the East IMO.

Mobley + Love for Pascal, I'd do it, not sure Cavs tho

I would do it in the summer after we know our draft position. If we are getting Victor miraculously, then no need for Mobley

I think a key would be for Siakam to leave at the deadline and make this team even worse. I guess there are two gamble options here. Mobley, Barnes, a high pick, OG, GTJ, Aichuwa. I can get behind that.

[PhilBlackson]

update. on pace for 24-32

Unless we are getting lowballed (which every report has said is NOT the case), then I have no idea what else there is to wait on & what they could possibly feel they still need to see.

I'd guess the offers would get better closer to deadline. still 3 weeks away. we gotta make good on these deal(s)

If the upside of whatever trades aren't greater than the potential of a high pick then we're wasting unnecessary time.

[SurgeIblocka]

Mobley + Love for Pascal, I'd do it, not sure Cavs tho

I would do it in the summer after we know our draft position. If we are getting Victor miraculously, then no need for Mobley

I think a key would be for Siakam to leave at the deadline and make this team even worse. I guess there are two gamble options here. Mobley, Barnes, a high pick, OG, GTJ, Aichuwa. I can get behind that.

I dont even think Scottie and Mobley would be the best pairing. They work in the same space. This management needs to realize Scotties best tools are 4ft and closer to the basket, same with Pascal. Scottie is a better option scoring in the paint. He should be developed as a paint scorer with passing skills. He should be surrounded by shooters and slashers. He can be an option of being a center in a small ball lineup, otherwise he should play PF. We need playmakers and shooters, which we sorely lack. Scottie should never be parked out at the perimeter because other teammates are occupying the paint.

[PhilBlackson]

Mobley + Love for Pascal, I'd do it, not sure Cavs tho

I would do it in the summer after we know our draft position. If we are getting Victor miraculously, then no need for Mobley

I think a key would be for Siakam to leave at the deadline and make this team even worse. I guess there are two gamble options here. Mobley, Barnes, a high pick, OG, GTJ, Aichuwa. I can get behind that.

I wouldn't be a damn worried about Mobley & Vic overlapping at all lol

Take the Cavs' defence & put that on steriods! Then imagine Jarrett was even taller & can shoot the lights out like KD, plus instead of tiny guards remaining you have Scottie, OG (I don't think Gary is returning, period) on defence. What would teams do once you run them off the line & if they don't those are going to be the hardest contested shots in the league lol

I'm sorry but that's such a ridiculous fear, that would be the best Twin Tower combos since Duncan/Robinson lol. A "worst case" scenario is you flip Mobley for an even greater haul in a couple years BUT that wouldn't happen and more likely he acts as GREAT insurance should Vic struggle with health. But with the quickness of each guy for their size & both guys ability to hit a jumper that would all be a complete non-issue and potentially one of the best big man tandems ever. The move would be an absolute no brainer AND help to improve the draft pick to even make that a possibility.

To be clear I don't think there's a chance in hell CLE is trading Mobley but if it were an option, you do it without question & asap.

[WuTang_CMB]

Unless we are getting lowballed (which every report has said is NOT the case), then I have no idea what else there is to wait on & what they could possibly feel they still need to see.

I'd guess the offers would get better closer to deadline. still 3 weeks away. we gotta make good on these deal(s)

If the upside of whatever trades aren't greater than the potential of a high pick then we're wasting unnecessary time.

Sure but normally teams wait closer to TD. Team stinks anyways.

[Tha Cynic]

I'll give them both Siakam and GTJ, but the salaries won't work lol.

If the Raptors really do want Mobley I think they can get him and keep their first round pick. For example, no one is beating Siakam and OG for Mobley, but that's a crazy trade lol.

[Ackshun]

I'll give them both Siakam and GTJ, but the salaries won't work lol.

If the Raptors really do want Mobley I think they can get him and keep their first round pick. For example, no one is beating Siakam and OG for Mobley, but that's a crazy trade lol.

The value Mobley brings per dollar, tells me he isn’t getting traded unless it’s for something special.

Certainly not Pascal. Certainly not anyone leading a team to 11th place.

[Tha Cynic]

I'll give them both Siakam and GTJ, but the salaries won't work lol.

If the Raptors really do want Mobley I think they can get him and keep their first round pick. For example, no one is beating Siakam and OG for Mobley, but that's a crazy trade lol.

The value Mobley brings per dollar, tells me he isn’t getting traded unless it’s for something special.

Certainly not Pascal. Certainly not anyone leading a team to 11th place.

Siakam and OG? I don't know, I think they have to consider that very hard. The ultimate goal is a championship and they still have a very young team even with Mobley traded.

[Madvillainy2004]

I'll give them both Siakam and GTJ, but the salaries won't work lol.

If the Raptors really do want Mobley I think they can get him and keep their first round pick. For example, no one is beating Siakam and OG for Mobley, but that's a crazy trade lol.

The value Mobley brings per dollar, tells me he isn’t getting traded unless it’s for something special.

Certainly not Pascal. Certainly not anyone leading a team to 11th place.

Siakam and OG? I don't know, I think they have to consider that very hard. The ultimate goal is a championship and they still have a very young team even with Mobley traded.

Garland/Mitchell/OG/Pascal/Allen might be the best starting 5 in the NBA. But I think it's moot cause the Cavs love Mobley I don't see them trading him at all.

[SurgeIblocka]

The value Mobley brings per dollar, tells me he isn’t getting traded unless it’s for something special.

Certainly not Pascal. Certainly not anyone leading a team to 11th place.

Siakam and OG? I don't know, I think they have to consider that very hard. The ultimate goal is a championship and they still have a very young team even with Mobley traded.

Garland/Mitchell/OG/Pascal/Allen might be the best starting 5 in the NBA. But I think it's moot cause the Cavs love Mobley I don't see them trading him at all.

I also think teams in the same conference wouldnt do this trade. It could spell the end for the GM of one these teams depending on how things go.

[Tha Cynic]

The value Mobley brings per dollar, tells me he isn’t getting traded unless it’s for something special.

Certainly not Pascal. Certainly not anyone leading a team to 11th place.

Siakam and OG? I don't know, I think they have to consider that very hard. The ultimate goal is a championship and they still have a very young team even with Mobley traded.

Garland/Mitchell/OG/Pascal/Allen might be the best starting 5 in the NBA. But I think it's moot cause the Cavs love Mobley I don't see them trading him at all.

Vaults them into best roster and the Raptors have a great starting point.

I would also do Siakam for Garland if the first one doesn't work. May need to sweeten it with GT or FVV.

It depends on how highly they value Garland and Mobley over a championship lol.

[rapz101]

Why don’t the raptors trade for Caris LeVert.

Besides injury history he’s the perfect low profile-ish addition this team could use.

I doubt he’d be very expensive too. Good creator and can play-make a bit. Any see issue with this?

[Ackshun]

Siakam and OG? I don't know, I think they have to consider that very hard. The ultimate goal is a championship and they still have a very young team even with Mobley traded.

Garland/Mitchell/OG/Pascal/Allen might be the best starting 5 in the NBA. But I think it's moot cause the Cavs love Mobley I don't see them trading him at all.

Vaults them into best roster and the Raptors have a great starting point.

I would also do Siakam for Garland if the first one doesn't work. May need to sweeten it with GT or FVV.

It depends on how highly they value Garland and Mobley over a championship lol.

Don’t see it. Puts Cavs in cap hell

[islandboy53]

I wouldnt give either that money.

Agreed. Fred's been given the keys for 2 seasons now, and has shown that he just isn't the guy. You can blame that on the supporting cast as much as you want, but I think it's easier to build around the rest of the core using pieces you can get for him than trade a different art of the core and build around Fred. Same kind of reasoning applies to Gary. Time to move on from both if we can.

Who in the world wants to build around Fred? No team believes that. Fred is and was always a guy that is best suited as a team's 4th-5th best player.

So "build around" was careless phrasing. The intent was more along the lines of he shouldn't be kept as part of the core group moving forward. I think tonight's effort with him on the bench is further evidence to support that. Gary actually showed a little more than I expected, but probably not enough to justify hanging on to him.

[Tha Cynic]

Why don’t the raptors trade for Caris LeVert.

Besides injury history he’s the perfect low profile-ish addition this team could use.

I doubt he’d be very expensive too. Good creator and can play-make a bit. Any see issue with this?

Cavs are in win now mode so the only reason they would do this is if we give them one of our better players back. I like all our better players more than Levert.

[Los_29]

Agreed. Fred's been given the keys for 2 seasons now, and has shown that he just isn't the guy. You can blame that on the supporting cast as much as you want, but I think it's easier to build around the rest of the core using pieces you can get for him than trade a different art of the core and build around Fred. Same kind of reasoning applies to Gary. Time to move on from both if we can.

Who in the world wants to build around Fred? No team believes that. Fred is and was always a guy that is best suited as a team's 4th-5th best player.

So "build around" was careless phrasing. The intent was more along the lines of he shouldn't be kept as part of the core group moving forward. I think tonight's effort with him on the bench is further evidence to support that. Gary actually showed a little more than I expected, but probably not enough to justify hanging on to him.

We just lost to a team without Tatum and Smart. I don’t know how this game is further evidence we don’t need Fred moving forward.

Our team is just bad all around. Fred is a good player and is good enough to be a core piece. Same with OG. Whether that’s on our team remains to be seen though. I expect a shakeup at the deadline.

[AkelaLoneWolf]

Who in the world wants to build around Fred? No team believes that. Fred is and was always a guy that is best suited as a team's 4th-5th best player.

So "build around" was careless phrasing. The intent was more along the lines of he shouldn't be kept as part of the core group moving forward. I think tonight's effort with him on the bench is further evidence to support that. Gary actually showed a little more than I expected, but probably not enough to justify hanging on to him.

We just lost to a team without Tatum and Smart. I don’t know how this game is further evidence we don’t need Fred moving forward.

Our team is just bad all around. Fred is a good player and is good enough to be a core piece. Same with OG. Whether that’s on our team remains to be seen though. I expect a shakeup at the deadline.

Yeah the problem with this team is simply a deficit of talent.
FVV or Siakam or OG take turns nightly being first option and often fail or not good enough.
The tank will be helpful for this.

[Los_29]

So "build around" was careless phrasing. The intent was more along the lines of he shouldn't be kept as part of the core group moving forward. I think tonight's effort with him on the bench is further evidence to support that. Gary actually showed a little more than I expected, but probably not enough to justify hanging on to him.

We just lost to a team without Tatum and Smart. I don’t know how this game is further evidence we don’t need Fred moving forward.

Our team is just bad all around. Fred is a good player and is good enough to be a core piece. Same with OG. Whether that’s on our team remains to be seen though. I expect a shakeup at the deadline.

Yeah the problem with this team is simply a deficit of talent.
FVV or Siakam or OG take turns nightly being first option and often fail or not good enough.
The tank will be helpful for this.

They are in a better position to get a top pick than their Tampa year. This might just be what the doctor ordered.