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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#1081 » by gha4life » Sun Jan 22, 2023 5:59 am

LoveMyRaps wrote:Brandon Miller is gonna go top 5 for sure. That dude is a future star. See him as a Jaylen Brown/Paul George type player.

Also, interesting to note that SI had Jarace at #6 in their most recent mock.
My only issue with Brandon Miller is with ball pressure he cant really get by ppl , unlike luka and Paul pierce who even though slow can pretty much get anywhere in their own pace because of their strength and frame

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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#1082 » by Syd-TK3 » Sun Jan 22, 2023 6:04 am

All I know is whatever trades we make we need to get back a 2nd pick for this year
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#1083 » by BoyzNTheHood » Sun Jan 22, 2023 6:11 am

I was just skimming over some footage of guys in our range and what I noticed is, Gradey Dick and Keyonte George seek out shots. Meaning they move without the ball in order to get themselves open. Jarace Walker does this to a lesser extent as well, and with his defensive potential he's grown on me.

Guys like Cam Whitmore and Nick Smith seem to prefer to play in isolation. They wait for the ball to get to them then try to make something happen. That sort of fits the Raptors offensive mold, but the guys who try to find their own shots probably fit better, in my opinion.

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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#1084 » by Ell Curry » Sun Jan 22, 2023 6:19 am

will wrote:Any good Point God prospects?


Step 1: Turn Van Vleet + Trent into assets
Step 2: Tank hard
Step 3: Finish 2nd in lotto or at least close enough that those Trent and Van Vleet assets (today's rumblings seem to be the Westbrook expiring and a Lakers unprotected first) and another 1st rounder from us gets us up to #2
Step 4: Draft Scoot Henderson
Step 5: Throw a tasteful but fun parade
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#1085 » by LoveMyRaps » Sun Jan 22, 2023 7:35 am

Ell Curry wrote:
will wrote:Any good Point God prospects?


Step 1: Turn Van Vleet + Trent into assets
Step 2: Tank hard
Step 3: Finish 2nd in lotto or at least close enough that those Trent and Van Vleet assets (today's rumblings seem to be the Westbrook expiring and a Lakers unprotected first) and another 1st rounder from us gets us up to #2
Step 4: Draft Scoot Henderson
Step 5: Throw a tasteful but fun parade


I think you'd have to attach a lot more to even #3 to move up to #2. It'd be something along the lines of #3 + 2 future 1sts

Scoot is that special. No one is trading the 1st or 2nd overall pick. It's already an untouchable.
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#1086 » by Mark_83 » Sun Jan 22, 2023 7:49 am

gha4life wrote:
LoveMyRaps wrote:Brandon Miller is gonna go top 5 for sure. That dude is a future star. See him as a Jaylen Brown/Paul George type player.

Also, interesting to note that SI had Jarace at #6 in their most recent mock.
My only issue with Brandon Miller is with ball pressure he cant really get by ppl , unlike luka and Paul pierce who even though slow can pretty much get anywhere in their own pace because of their strength and frame

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That'll improve as he improves his handle, which is his main problem imo. The handle is loose right now. OG doesn't have a quickness problem either, but until he improved his handle he wasn't confident driving into traffic.
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#1087 » by BoyzNTheHood » Sun Jan 22, 2023 7:52 am

All of this Scoot talk got me looking deeper into the Ignite, and I must say Leonard Miller has surprised me. However, the next guy I'm looking at for the 2023 draft after Scoot is Sidy Cissoko. I think he'll be able to develop himself into a 40% 3 point shooter.

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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#1088 » by Psubs » Sun Jan 22, 2023 8:06 am

BoyzNTheHood wrote:All of this Scoot talk got me looking deeper into the Ignite, and I must say Leonard Miller has surprised me. However, the next guy I'm looking at for the 2023 draft after Scoot is Sidy Cissoko. I think he'll be able to develop himself into a 40% 3 point shooter.

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I see Luol Deng ceiling in Sissoko.
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#1089 » by Psubs » Sun Jan 22, 2023 8:08 am

LoveMyRaps wrote:
Ell Curry wrote:
will wrote:Any good Point God prospects?


Step 1: Turn Van Vleet + Trent into assets
Step 2: Tank hard
Step 3: Finish 2nd in lotto or at least close enough that those Trent and Van Vleet assets (today's rumblings seem to be the Westbrook expiring and a Lakers unprotected first) and another 1st rounder from us gets us up to #2
Step 4: Draft Scoot Henderson
Step 5: Throw a tasteful but fun parade


I think you'd have to attach a lot more to even #3 to move up to #2. It'd be something along the lines of #3 + 2 future 1sts

Scoot is that special. No one is trading the 1st or 2nd overall pick. It's already an untouchable.


And no one is letting Luka fall to #3 behind Ayton and Bagley. :lol:
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#1090 » by BoyzNTheHood » Sun Jan 22, 2023 8:19 am

Psubs wrote:
BoyzNTheHood wrote:All of this Scoot talk got me looking deeper into the Ignite, and I must say Leonard Miller has surprised me. However, the next guy I'm looking at for the 2023 draft after Scoot is Sidy Cissoko. I think he'll be able to develop himself into a 40% 3 point shooter.

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I see Luol Deng ceiling in Sissoko.
That would be an incredible steal where he's mocked

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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#1091 » by Jstock12 » Sun Jan 22, 2023 10:49 am

Psubs wrote:I want A.Tubelis with the 2nd pick or a late 1st. He seems like Vucevic / Valanciunas.

So far from following him I'd say these are his pros/cons:

- Despite this season's percentage, he doesn't have a reliable 3PT shot yet (though I think he might develop that in time).
- Below average rebounder.
- Much like Vucevic/JV, he doesn't have the quickest feet / footwork / lateral movement, so defensively he'd struggle as well.
- Not a rim protector.

+ Good fundamentals.
+ Decent passer.
+ Good free-throw shooter.
+ Drives and finishes well to his left.
+ Post-game is good and he seems to be able to finish with baby hook shots with either hand. Good touch around the rim.
+ Very fast in a straight line, good hops, so his main strength really is the fastbreak/transition offense.

Based on all this, even as a Tubelis homer, I have a bit of a hard time seeing him do well in the modern NBA. Perhaps he could be a decent role player, but I just don't see him as a starter caliber player on a good team. Getting drafted in the 2nd round sounds about right. I don't think teams will use a late 1st rounder on him.

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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#1092 » by will » Sun Jan 22, 2023 12:17 pm

Psubs wrote:
BoyzNTheHood wrote:All of this Scoot talk got me looking deeper into the Ignite, and I must say Leonard Miller has surprised me. However, the next guy I'm looking at for the 2023 draft after Scoot is Sidy Cissoko. I think he'll be able to develop himself into a 40% 3 point shooter.

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I see Luol Deng ceiling in Sissoko.


A very very good ceiling. The man from Sudan!
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#1093 » by will » Sun Jan 22, 2023 12:20 pm

Ell Curry wrote:
will wrote:Any good Point God prospects?


Step 1: Turn Van Vleet + Trent into assets
Step 2: Tank hard
Step 3: Finish 2nd in lotto or at least close enough that those Trent and Van Vleet assets (today's rumblings seem to be the Westbrook expiring and a Lakers unprotected first) and another 1st rounder from us gets us up to #2
Step 4: Draft Scoot Henderson
Step 5: Throw a tasteful but fun parade


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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#1094 » by TorontoBarneys » Sun Jan 22, 2023 1:28 pm

LoveMyRaps wrote:
Ell Curry wrote:
will wrote:Any good Point God prospects?


Step 1: Turn Van Vleet + Trent into assets
Step 2: Tank hard
Step 3: Finish 2nd in lotto or at least close enough that those Trent and Van Vleet assets (today's rumblings seem to be the Westbrook expiring and a Lakers unprotected first) and another 1st rounder from us gets us up to #2
Step 4: Draft Scoot Henderson
Step 5: Throw a tasteful but fun parade


I think you'd have to attach a lot more to even #3 to move up to #2. It'd be something along the lines of #3 + 2 future 1sts

Scoot is that special. No one is trading the 1st or 2nd overall pick. It's already an untouchable.


I was thinking about a scenario where if we lucked into the #1 overall pick, would we trade down to the #2 overall pick if our need for Scoot was far greater and we had serious concerns over Wemby's long-term health? I imagine the return we'd get would be significant, if the #2 pick team was really enamored with Wemby.

Probably not a good idea, though.
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#1095 » by Reeko » Sun Jan 22, 2023 1:33 pm

I knew Amen Thompson wasn't a shooter, but I had no idea how bad it was. His form is all the way broken. If we're in range to pick him I'm not sure how wise it would be to bet on him becoming league average from 3.

Obviously the athleticism, passing and defensive potential are all very good but that jump shot is one of the ugliest I've ever seen.
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#1096 » by will » Sun Jan 22, 2023 1:55 pm

Reeko wrote:I knew Amen Thompson wasn't a shooter, but I had no idea how bad it was. His form is all the way broken. If we're in range to pick him I'm not sure how wise it would be to bet on him becoming league average from 3.

Obviously the athleticism, passing and defensive potential are all very good but that jump shot is one of the ugliest I've ever seen.


Would you consider the form being in the Shawn Marion or Kevin Martin style?
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#1097 » by T-d0t » Sun Jan 22, 2023 2:29 pm

Brice Sensabaugh should be top 5 from what I seen so far
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#1098 » by Reeko » Sun Jan 22, 2023 2:33 pm

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Reeko wrote:I knew Amen Thompson wasn't a shooter, but I had no idea how bad it was. His form is all the way broken. If we're in range to pick him I'm not sure how wise it would be to bet on him becoming league average from 3.

Obviously the athleticism, passing and defensive potential are all very good but that jump shot is one of the ugliest I've ever seen.


Would you consider the form being in the Shawn Marion or Kevin Martin style?

Neither one cuz at least those guys hit their 3s. Those guys had funky mechanics, Amen’s is busted.
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#1099 » by UnbelievablyRAW » Sun Jan 22, 2023 2:42 pm

Yeah Ausar seems further along in that regard. If we get only one pick in the top 10 outside of the top 2, I think Ausar and Miller have the highest ceilings but Ausar has major bust potential because of the lack of shooting. Amen as well because he’s a 99 percentile athlete but his shot is horrible. Maybe a 6’7 Russell Westbrook?

I like Keyonte as someone who looks to either just be good, or can turn out amazing. I doubt he busts because of the tools he already has
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#1100 » by Psubs » Sun Jan 22, 2023 3:07 pm

Jstock12 wrote:
Psubs wrote:I want A.Tubelis with the 2nd pick or a late 1st. He seems like Vucevic / Valanciunas.

So far from following him I'd say these are his pros/cons:

- Despite this season's percentage, he doesn't have a reliable 3PT shot yet (though I think he might develop that in time).
- Below average rebounder.
- Much like Vucevic/JV, he doesn't have the quickest feet / footwork / lateral movement, so defensively he'd struggle as well.
- Not a rim protector.

+ Good fundamentals.
+ Decent passer.
+ Good free-throw shooter.
+ Drives and finishes well to his left.
+ Post-game is good and he seems to be able to finish with baby hook shots with either hand. Good touch around the rim.
+ Very fast in a straight line, good hops, so his main strength really is the fastbreak/transition offense.

Based on all this, even as a Tubelis homer, I have a bit of a hard time seeing him do well in the modern NBA. Perhaps he could be a decent role player, but I just don't see him as a starter caliber player on a good team. Getting drafted in the 2nd round sounds about right. I don't think teams will use a late 1st rounder on him.

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