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Reeko wrote:I knew Amen Thompson wasn't a shooter, but I had no idea how bad it was. His form is all the way broken. If we're in range to pick him I'm not sure how wise it would be to bet on him becoming league average from 3.
Obviously the athleticism, passing and defensive potential are all very good but that jump shot is one of the ugliest I've ever seen.
Rapsfan07 wrote:grant101 wrote:TorontoBarneys wrote:Who do you guys see as the highest chance of becoming a genuine superstar for the picks outside of the top 5?
6-15 let's say. Is there anyone?
Definitely the twins. Cam might also slip - people are selling way too early considering his tools and motor. Jett Howard has a flamethrower jumper, and a nifty enough handle and solid playmaking instincts to maybe one day be a primary ala Devin Booker. Ant Black is a little more of a longshot, and needs either or both of his first step and jumper to come around, but his size, athleticism and playmaking is special
I'll preface everything I'm about to say by first saying that there's a lot of college ball left to play. Then there's March Madness, the combine, workouts...so there's a lot more information left to gather BUT:
1. Walker
Spoke about him earlier. Like I said, if his 3pt shooting is for real, he's going to be a plug and play PF with the chance to become a star. He needs to work on his post moves and right now he's only taking about 2 3pt attempts per game. I think you're looking at a Jerami Grant floor, Millsap ceiling.
2. George
He's got a knack for making some very, very difficult shots. Puts some pressure on the rim as well, which is nice to see (we haven't had an SG who could do that in quite some time) but I find he doesn't covert there well. Doesn't have the greatest shot selection but is a very willing and capable passer who competes defensively as well. Pretty good 3pt shooter on volume and can create space to get his shot off. He hasn't been very efficient shooting from the field though, which is a little worrisome. But if he puts it all together, we could be looking at another Bradley Beal type.
I contemplated adding Jett Howard but truthfully, I don't know what to make of him. He's an excellent shooter and A/TO is pretty good but he doesn't defend, doesn't really put pressure on the rim, rebounding and assist numbers are kinda meh. If all he's going to do is shoot, even at an elite level, his potential is pretty limited. Then again, he's posting better numbers than Booker did and we all saw what happened there.
Reeko wrote:will wrote:Reeko wrote:I knew Amen Thompson wasn't a shooter, but I had no idea how bad it was. His form is all the way broken. If we're in range to pick him I'm not sure how wise it would be to bet on him becoming league average from 3.
Obviously the athleticism, passing and defensive potential are all very good but that jump shot is one of the ugliest I've ever seen.
Would you consider the form being in the Shawn Marion or Kevin Martin style?
Neither one cuz at least those guys hit their 3s. Those guys had funky mechanics, Amen’s is busted.
PoundTown wrote:Rapsfan07 wrote:grant101 wrote:
Definitely the twins. Cam might also slip - people are selling way too early considering his tools and motor. Jett Howard has a flamethrower jumper, and a nifty enough handle and solid playmaking instincts to maybe one day be a primary ala Devin Booker. Ant Black is a little more of a longshot, and needs either or both of his first step and jumper to come around, but his size, athleticism and playmaking is special
I'll preface everything I'm about to say by first saying that there's a lot of college ball left to play. Then there's March Madness, the combine, workouts...so there's a lot more information left to gather BUT:
1. Walker
Spoke about him earlier. Like I said, if his 3pt shooting is for real, he's going to be a plug and play PF with the chance to become a star. He needs to work on his post moves and right now he's only taking about 2 3pt attempts per game. I think you're looking at a Jerami Grant floor, Millsap ceiling.
2. George
He's got a knack for making some very, very difficult shots. Puts some pressure on the rim as well, which is nice to see (we haven't had an SG who could do that in quite some time) but I find he doesn't covert there well. Doesn't have the greatest shot selection but is a very willing and capable passer who competes defensively as well. Pretty good 3pt shooter on volume and can create space to get his shot off. He hasn't been very efficient shooting from the field though, which is a little worrisome. But if he puts it all together, we could be looking at another Bradley Beal type.
I contemplated adding Jett Howard but truthfully, I don't know what to make of him. He's an excellent shooter and A/TO is pretty good but he doesn't defend, doesn't really put pressure on the rim, rebounding and assist numbers are kinda meh. If all he's going to do is shoot, even at an elite level, his potential is pretty limited. Then again, he's posting better numbers than Booker did and we all saw what happened there.
I like Walker a lot, and in this range I also like Gradey Dick a lot as well. I have a hard time believing Gradey won't become as good as someone like Pistons Bogdanovich, but am hoping for even better than that. I think in his prime he could be the premier off-ball shooting wing, similar to Klay now.
Neither of these guys fix all our holes but both provide shooting. Jarace would bunch up the front court even more, but if you think he's an all star down the line, you gotta take him and figure out the roster problem after.
George still intrigues me, but bad efficiency in college is a bit of a turn off.
Then finally, the other guy I'm liking in that range is Anthony Black who looks like a Masai type player and does at least project to fix the issue of someone that can get into the lane quickly possibly, without even needing a screen. Seems to play both ways and can shoot it a bit, but still needs work there.
So, I think as it stands, the prospect I like most in our range without even considering fit on our roster and just talent, is Jarace Walker, followed by Black and Dick, who are in a tight race for 2nd place and would be better roster fits with current group if say, we just move Trent this deadline.
will wrote:PoundTown wrote:Rapsfan07 wrote:
I'll preface everything I'm about to say by first saying that there's a lot of college ball left to play. Then there's March Madness, the combine, workouts...so there's a lot more information left to gather BUT:
1. Walker
Spoke about him earlier. Like I said, if his 3pt shooting is for real, he's going to be a plug and play PF with the chance to become a star. He needs to work on his post moves and right now he's only taking about 2 3pt attempts per game. I think you're looking at a Jerami Grant floor, Millsap ceiling.
2. George
He's got a knack for making some very, very difficult shots. Puts some pressure on the rim as well, which is nice to see (we haven't had an SG who could do that in quite some time) but I find he doesn't covert there well. Doesn't have the greatest shot selection but is a very willing and capable passer who competes defensively as well. Pretty good 3pt shooter on volume and can create space to get his shot off. He hasn't been very efficient shooting from the field though, which is a little worrisome. But if he puts it all together, we could be looking at another Bradley Beal type.
I contemplated adding Jett Howard but truthfully, I don't know what to make of him. He's an excellent shooter and A/TO is pretty good but he doesn't defend, doesn't really put pressure on the rim, rebounding and assist numbers are kinda meh. If all he's going to do is shoot, even at an elite level, his potential is pretty limited. Then again, he's posting better numbers than Booker did and we all saw what happened there.
I like Walker a lot, and in this range I also like Gradey Dick a lot as well. I have a hard time believing Gradey won't become as good as someone like Pistons Bogdanovich, but am hoping for even better than that. I think in his prime he could be the premier off-ball shooting wing, similar to Klay now.
Neither of these guys fix all our holes but both provide shooting. Jarace would bunch up the front court even more, but if you think he's an all star down the line, you gotta take him and figure out the roster problem after.
George still intrigues me, but bad efficiency in college is a bit of a turn off.
Then finally, the other guy I'm liking in that range is Anthony Black who looks like a Masai type player and does at least project to fix the issue of someone that can get into the lane quickly possibly, without even needing a screen. Seems to play both ways and can shoot it a bit, but still needs work there.
So, I think as it stands, the prospect I like most in our range without even considering fit on our roster and just talent, is Jarace Walker, followed by Black and Dick, who are in a tight race for 2nd place and would be better roster fits with current group if say, we just move Trent this deadline.
Everytime I see your PoundTown screenname, I get a good laugh.
Kudos to you!
PoundTown wrote:will wrote:PoundTown wrote:
I like Walker a lot, and in this range I also like Gradey Dick a lot as well. I have a hard time believing Gradey won't become as good as someone like Pistons Bogdanovich, but am hoping for even better than that. I think in his prime he could be the premier off-ball shooting wing, similar to Klay now.
Neither of these guys fix all our holes but both provide shooting. Jarace would bunch up the front court even more, but if you think he's an all star down the line, you gotta take him and figure out the roster problem after.
George still intrigues me, but bad efficiency in college is a bit of a turn off.
Then finally, the other guy I'm liking in that range is Anthony Black who looks like a Masai type player and does at least project to fix the issue of someone that can get into the lane quickly possibly, without even needing a screen. Seems to play both ways and can shoot it a bit, but still needs work there.
So, I think as it stands, the prospect I like most in our range without even considering fit on our roster and just talent, is Jarace Walker, followed by Black and Dick, who are in a tight race for 2nd place and would be better roster fits with current group if say, we just move Trent this deadline.
Everytime I see your PoundTown screenname, I get a good laugh.
Kudos to you!
Haha the inspiration comes from the "pound the rock" Dwayne Casey days when I was also a man in his early 20's at the time, when my friends and I would say stupid things like "did you take her to pound town?"
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deeps6x wrote:I guarantee you that (Jaylen) Brown and (Kris) Dunn are drafted OUT of the top 5.
BoyzNTheHood wrote:GG Jackson just keeps showing us flashes of greatness, but then you look at his overall numbers and it's like WTF!
At 6'9" to be able to do what he does is rare. He's basically a guard in a big man's body, but with all of that talent comes a lot of set backs. Like why are you a 6'9" guard but shooting 40% from the field? He should easily be at 50+.
It might have been Barlowe who said he desperately needs to go to a team focused on development. So I'd keep an eye on us. I'm not sure he's a long boi, but he's 6'9 and provides a need for us in scoring. And we all know we love our inefficient chuckers, so I'd watch him closely.Bruin wrote:BoyzNTheHood wrote:GG Jackson just keeps showing us flashes of greatness, but then you look at his overall numbers and it's like WTF!
At 6'9" to be able to do what he does is rare. He's basically a guard in a big man's body, but with all of that talent comes a lot of set backs. Like why are you a 6'9" guard but shooting 40% from the field? He should easily be at 50+.
He’s an interesting prospect based on his potential. Need to keep in mind he reclassified and should still be in HS this year. Just turned 18 last month.
Would’ve been a projected top pick in 2024 but he’s kinda all over the place in 2023 due to his inefficiency. Doesn’t help that he plays for a weak team so teams can focus more on game planning for him. The potential and upside is definitely there though.
deeps6x wrote:I guarantee you that (Jaylen) Brown and (Kris) Dunn are drafted OUT of the top 5.
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Kevin Willis wrote:GG Jackson wingspan is 6'10".
Jett Howard has done enough to not play again and still be in the lottery.
Psubs wrote:Kevin Willis wrote:GG Jackson wingspan is 6'10".
Jett Howard has done enough to not play again and still be in the lottery.
That's not good but he still almost gets 1 steal and 1 block per game. I guess he'll have to be a SF. Is GG (just turned 18) a more raw Brandon Miller (just turned 20)?
Strengths: Plays basketball at it's highest in terms of intensity and aggressiveness doesn't back down from anyone ... Pure athlete very explosive has no problems dunking on defenders, and has a great motor; runs the court like a deer ... Excellent rebounder uses his long arms and shear quickness to out hustle opposing players under the boards this is one of the reasons why he is especially good at offensive boards ... Gets the majority of his points on dunks, and put-backs … Simply dominating on the inside although it's not because of his strength but his lateral quickness, this makes it very hard for defenders to get a feel for him defensively ... Has a strong NBA ready body, because of this he can finish most plays after contact occurs; he is also good at drawing enough contact to get to the free throw line … Has shown the leaping ability and lateral quickness to be an effective NBA shot-blocker, and has already become a good enough defender in high school to make opposing players change there shots … Tough minded has supreme confidence in his ability’s feels that he is the best, has overcome a lot of off the court problems, will not fold under pressure … Has started to get a nice consistent turnaround jump shot in the post … Greatly improved his face up game and ball handling as he can now step 15 feet from the basket and drive in the lane or shot the mid-range jumper from 15 feet and in … Has a great feel for opposing defense’s seems to feel when a double team is about to occur and will usually look for a open teammate to pass too …
