Re-Signed: The PJ Washington Jr. Thread (3yrs/$48m)

[Diop]

PJ at 15M is a no-brainer

PJ at 20M is someone we should be trying to S&T (or match but trade early in the contract), but wouldn't let walk away for nothing

PJ at 25M is a bad bad contract

that sums it up, Washington became involved in trade rumours when they couldnt agree upon an extension, rumour was that PJ wanted 20 mill.

a lot of us got flash backs of the off season when we broke the bank for Batum, Marv and Zeller. It didn't work out great.

PJ really seems like a Marv role player type, which is fine, but he should look to copy Marv's consistent effort and attitude which increased his value to the team.

[JMAC3]

PJ is better than Marvin ever was. Marvin was averaging 8-11 ppg on a team with no offense outside of Kemba. We also paid Marvin at like age 30, PJ is significantly younger.

I get we don't want to make bad signings long-term, but PJ is a keeper. I just don't see a team signing him to some massive offer sheet, I could be wrong though.

[yosemiteben]

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Wow, was unaware his numbers had ticked up this much

[JMAC3]

90% of nba teams would of already given him an extension.

Among the 39 players who have attempted over 250 threes this season.. Pj ranks 17th in 3pt%.

That is with shooting 30% for a full month.

[Diop]

We’re going to need rebounding next to him, miles is probably the best option unless we get Wemby. PJ can defend 3s, so he’d fit nicely next to him

[Rays Pompadour]

You extend PJ, you're making a commitment to him as your starting power forward. That's not a slam dunk in my opinion.

[JMAC3]

You extend PJ, you're making a commitment to him as your starting power forward. That's not a slam dunk in my opinion.

Who is starting over him? Are you trading first round picks for a different starting PF?

If the answer is Wemby, seems like a good problem to have and if PJ comes off the bench so be it. Wemby and him combined making 25-30 million is a pretty good use of resources.

[Rays Pompadour]

You extend PJ, you're making a commitment to him as your starting power forward. That's not a slam dunk in my opinion.

Who is starting over him? Are you trading first round picks for a different starting PF?

If the answer is Wemby, seems like a good problem to have and if PJ comes off the bench so be it. Wemby and him combined making 25-30 million is a pretty good use of resources.

I don't assume anyone is on the roster next season, other than Melo, so the starting PF might be on another team. You look elsewhere, though, if you sign PJ...and hope for a draft pick that contributes.

[Snidely FC]

I'd like to see the team keep Pj; Zach Lowe on subtle improvements in PJ’s game:

Washington has improved at some of the game's less glamorous aspects. He's more engaged on defense, and more in tune to connective passes:

Washington has a knack for spotting those entry passes in the flow, and slinging them off the bounce.

With LaMelo Ball out, the Hornets have shifted Washington some ball handling -- including scripted pick-and-rolls:

He throws soft lobs, and has hit 41% from floater range on more attempts than prior seasons. That's not a go-to weapon, but Washington stretching himself on an awful team will pay off when he's on a good one again. He has already run 78 pick-and-rolls, more than double his number in any prior season, per Second Spectrum.

Several rival teams have held internal discussions about Washington, but their latest read is that Charlotte is leaning toward re-signing Washington this summer.

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[fatlever]

so, pj just added about 10 mil to his contract number this summer

[JMAC3]

so, pj just added about 10 mil to his contract number this summer

I mean it was a great performance, but not sure how much you value it going against a team like Thunder (without Shai) and him starting next to Svi, Theo, McGowens and Richards. Someone had to shoot the ball, just happy he was hitting.

I think we all need to pump the brakes about making long term decisions based on the last few games in general.

[dmutombo321]

I'll remain skeptical until he can string together multiple 20+ point games.

He's shown these flashes before only to follow them up with 2-3 pedestrian outings where he looks average.

I hope he'll assert himself these final few games bc he has the green light to shoot it every time he touches the ball.

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[luciano-davidwesley]

Yep PJ's only consistency has been inconsistency during his tenure here. No one is going to offer him $80-$100 million based off this one game.

[wilson115]

Hmmm.

Washington still looks like a reliable borderline starter, or at worst the first big coming off the bench, which will be worth something on the open market. Whether that something is $20 million remains to be seen, but given that the cap is expected to increase by $11 million this summer - not to mention a new TV deal hitting the league in 2025 - it could be argued that overpaying him slightly for the next two years would be fine, as long as his deal comes out looking better after the cap has increased further.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/mortenjensen/2023/03/29/is-pj-washington-a-long-term-keeper-for-the-charlotte-hornets/?sh=1266cdd25096

[NCHeels2008]

Not that there is a logical trade really but he would be a great 5th starter on the Warriors

[JMAC3]

Not that there is a logical trade really but he would be a great 5th starter on the Warriors

PJ would be a great starter on most teams. He is clearly a valuable commodity in the NBA as a stretch 4 who put the ball on the floor a little bit. Problem is that because he has valued skills that fit around star players teams are willing to probably overpay for that type of player.

Basically, Jabari Smith and Taylor Hendricks are stretch 4s that offer verry little on ball creativity... similar to PJ and they are both could be top 5 picks before it is over. I personally think the fanbase undervalues PJ heavily.

There were plenty of people lobbying for paying McDaniels a long term deal around 10 million over paying PJ 16 million... that looks crazier by the day.

[JMAC3]

Reality is even if he does get 15-20 million that is the same as guys who are productive bench players. If you are a starter in the league, you are looking for 15 million+.

https://hoopshype.com/salaries/players/

[NCHeels2008]

I think he's one of those guys that actually would look better on a top 5-10 team because of his skillset. His inconsistent bursts of big scoring nights (like Aaron Gordon) would be seen as an added boon instead of a negative.

[JMAC3]

I think he's one of those guys that actually would look better on a top 5-10 team because of his skillset. His inconsistent bursts of big scoring nights (like Aaron Gordon) would be seen as an added boon instead of a negative.

Yeah should be the same for us. Problem is a lot of fans just assume he should be a #2 scoring option because he was a lottery pick.

He is a great 4th option, who has the ability to give you 20 on a good night and his great nights are higher upside than most teams 4th option.