King4Day wrote:Ghost of Kleine wrote:King4Day wrote:I wonder if we could do 2 separate deals:
Washington: Crowder, Payne, and a 1st for Kuzma
&
Charlotte: Dario, Landry, and a 1st for Rozier
Dario to Charlotte because they could keep him longer term. May fit better as a higher IQ player.
Crowder to Washington since they prefer to stay competitive. They would retain him long term for much cheaper than they have to pay Kuz
That would be a reasonably priced injection of new players/talent.
Just assuming Washington and Charlotte would do those deals, how would you feel about those additions?
We'd probably have to slightly up our offer for Kuzma as they've seemingly gone all in on prioritizing keeping him by making other players available for trade like Hachimura, etc.
Would we be willing to offer up a Crowder/ Johnson package for Kuzma knowing that as much as we like Johnson ( for our core) Kuzma is simply further along than Cam and on a different tier/ more durable long term than he is anyways, so cumulatively, his potentially big contract would be offset by Crowder' s expiring amount along with Johnson's expected big amount offsetting Kuzma's next contract??
I could absolutely see Charlotte doing the trade you suggested man! And it really is a solid trade for both parties involved. I will say given our financial flexibility constraints though hitting as early as next season, we really do need to be cognizant of trying to extract a modicum of additional value back in any deals in the form of 2nds ( at the very least) solely for the purpose of securing low scale COST CONTROLLED asset talent/ upside swings!! Maybe at least try and get one of the 2nds back that they have in 23. I'd prefer Boston's honestly, but ultimately wouldn't be too put off by accepting Boston's given their recent injury issues surfacing again.
Also considering that we'll have a very difficult/ complicated time trying to refill our depth, we absolutely should not be sending out our 23' 1st under any circumstances as it represents a rookie scale cost controlled slot to offset our restrictive cap situation! We need to begin hitting on these cost controlled talent assets NOT ONLY to recoup our asset cache beyond picks. But also to offset our escalating payroll constraints.
I think they will move Kuzma. I believe they will see if they can get him to agree cheaper than he prefers, but ultimately moving him. In the end, he'll be on another team. But you may be right that the offer might not be enough.
I completely agree with everything you've said here man! I agree that they'll eventually move him right at/around the final deadline, once they get past any delusions that he'll resign there! At that point they'll look to move him to whatever team overwhelms them with the greatest value return!
We could have a great opportunity to legitimately get him too! We just have to decide if we're ultimately willing to give up premium value in a crowder/Johnson/ Future 1st (top 10 lotto protected) for him. I'd be pretty sure that'd be hard to beat unless some other team throws young players and multiple 1sts to them. 
