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WT: Raptors have been offered 3 FRPs for OG (Smh its just the Knicks)

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Re: WT: Raptors have been offered 3 FRPs for OG 

Post#121 » by isyed » Wed Jan 25, 2023 2:44 am

ImaBeatDatAzz wrote:best one is OG to pelicans for daniels, murphy, LA pick

follow up trades:
Pascal to blazers for simons, sharpe, hart
FVV to Orlando for Mo bamba, Cole Anthony, pick

here are your trades Masai :]
These are my favorite. Maybe for the blazers take. Out hart and add 2 un protected 1st and a pick swap.

For the magic I would take suggs if possible along with Bamba. Skip any picks.

Team to close the year

Bamba/Koloko
Precious
Barnes/Sharpe
Simmons/murphy
Suggs/Daniels

Along with the following picks

Toronto 2023 likely top 5
Lakers 2023 if we get lucky top 15
Blazers 2023 15 to 20th
Toronto 2024 pick
Blazers 2024 pick swap
Blazers 2026 pick

Move precious, Flynn and Birch for any combination of 2nd rounders.

Gary Trent gets us atleast another 1st rounder this year if not more.

The og trade is likely the least possible move especially if the Lakers pick is involved. That is worth a lot. Any small injury to lebron would mean we have a strong chance at a top 10 pick.

Tank hard for top 2 pick if we can and then trade rest of the picks for sga in the offseason.



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Re: WT: Raptors have been offered 3 FRPs for OG 

Post#122 » by Merit » Wed Jan 25, 2023 4:47 am

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Merit wrote:Raps have never not paid their own stars under Masai. If we move OG it’s a scorched earth rebuild. OG, pascal and Scottie are the 3 true untouchables with Fred in that next tier imo.

Scottie, Koloko and Precious are the only ones who should be considered untouchable. If the right haul comes along for Pascal...he gone!!


Why so much love for Koloko? Agreed on Precious, but even he and Fred can be moved in the right deal imo. I do think Koloko is worth more to us right now than he is in trade.
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Re: WT: Raptors have been offered 3 FRPs for OG 

Post#123 » by Merit » Wed Jan 25, 2023 5:00 am

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Merit wrote:Raps have never not paid their own stars under Masai. If we move OG it’s a scorched earth rebuild. OG, pascal and Scottie are the 3 true untouchables with Fred in that next tier imo.

after the KD drama this summer, Scottie is Masai's only untouchable


Scottie has proven to be untouchable this far.

I still think something’s coming. With utah talking about moving Beasley and the rumours earlier of them being interested in Gary Trent Jr., a three way trade with San Diego including Poeltl, Alexander Walker and Kelly olynyk or THT could make some sense. I feel as though Beasley himself could make some sense. While imperfect that trade in theory could solve all the raps biggest issues - a backup shooting big, shot creation and a starting big who can actually move their feet and block shots.

Consider a Scottie/THT/OG/Pascal/Poeltl lineup with Fred, Precious, and NAW available off the bench. We could still use a shooter if the raps opt for THT but I think he would look way better for us than for utah.
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Re: WT: Raptors have been offered 3 FRPs for OG 

Post#124 » by hyper316 » Wed Jan 25, 2023 6:56 am

Merit wrote:
dgr81 wrote:
Merit wrote:Raps have never not paid their own stars under Masai. If we move OG it’s a scorched earth rebuild. OG, pascal and Scottie are the 3 true untouchables with Fred in that next tier imo.

after the KD drama this summer, Scottie is Masai's only untouchable


Scottie has proven to be untouchable this far.

I still think something’s coming. With utah talking about moving Beasley and the rumours earlier of them being interested in Gary Trent Jr., a three way trade with San Diego including Poeltl, Alexander Walker and Kelly olynyk or THT could make some sense. I feel as though Beasley himself could make some sense. While imperfect that trade in theory could solve all the raps biggest issues - a backup shooting big, shot creation and a starting big who can actually move their feet and block shots.

Consider a Scottie/THT/OG/Pascal/Poeltl lineup with Fred, Precious, and NAW available off the bench. We could still use a shooter if the raps opt for THT but I think he would look way better for us than for utah.


I've never been a fan of Fred, but THT starting over Fred is just crazy talk
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Re: WT: Raptors have been offered 3 FRPs for OG 

Post#125 » by mtcan » Wed Jan 25, 2023 12:10 pm

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mtcan wrote:
Merit wrote:Raps have never not paid their own stars under Masai. If we move OG it’s a scorched earth rebuild. OG, pascal and Scottie are the 3 true untouchables with Fred in that next tier imo.

Scottie, Koloko and Precious are the only ones who should be considered untouchable. If the right haul comes along for Pascal...he gone!!


Why so much love for Koloko? Agreed on Precious, but even he and Fred can be moved in the right deal imo. I do think Koloko is worth more to us right now than he is in trade.

I believe there is untapped potential with Koloko so too soon to give up on him. 2 years later...maybe I reconsider..
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Re: WT: Raptors have been offered 3 FRPs for OG 

Post#126 » by steveholt » Wed Jan 25, 2023 12:21 pm

If true, take it and run Masai !
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Re: WT: Raptors have been offered 3 FRPs for OG 

Post#127 » by blastttOFF » Wed Jan 25, 2023 1:48 pm

FVV for Jonathan Isaac or Suggs. I would take a risk for those two
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Re: WT: Raptors have been offered 3 FRPs for OG 

Post#128 » by TorontoBarneys » Wed Jan 25, 2023 1:51 pm

blastttOFF wrote:FVV for Jonathan Isaac or Suggs. I would take a risk for those two


I'd do Suggs, Bamba, and the '23 Chi pick for OG but Orlando fans were outraged. I think nobody really wants to pay for his true value, which is fine as we can just keep him then.
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Re: WT: Raptors have been offered 3 FRPs for OG 

Post#129 » by blastttOFF » Wed Jan 25, 2023 1:54 pm

CANsportsguru wrote:
ImaBeatDatAzz wrote:best one is OG to pelicans for daniels, murphy, LA pick

follow up trades:
Pascal to blazers for simons, sharpe, hart
FVV to Orlando for Mo bamba, Cole Anthony, pick

here are your trades Masai :]



There's little chance New Orleans will trade the LAL pick before the draft (but I'd do that deal in a heartbeat). I would think Pascal would be worth ALOT more than that (He's an Elite two way player). Why would Orlando make that trade? Teams that trade for Pascal, FVV or OG will have playoff aspirations. Golden State would make sense for as a trade partner so would the Lakers if they are willing to give up some FRPs.



That LAL pick is not as valuable as it was earlier in the season. They are about to get AD back this week and by the end of the season they’ll probably land 12th to 15ish range
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Re: WT: Raptors have been offered 3 FRPs for OG 

Post#130 » by bboyskinnylegs » Wed Jan 25, 2023 1:56 pm

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blastttOFF wrote:FVV for Jonathan Isaac or Suggs. I would take a risk for those two


I'd do Suggs, Bamba, and the '23 Chi pick for OG but Orlando fans were outraged. I think nobody really wants to pay for his true value, which is fine as we can just keep him then.

I wouldn't trade O.G. to the Magic without the ORL '23 pick coming back.
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Re: WT: Raptors have been offered 3 FRPs for OG 

Post#131 » by OakleyDokely » Wed Jan 25, 2023 2:07 pm

bboyskinnylegs wrote:
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blastttOFF wrote:FVV for Jonathan Isaac or Suggs. I would take a risk for those two


I'd do Suggs, Bamba, and the '23 Chi pick for OG but Orlando fans were outraged. I think nobody really wants to pay for his true value, which is fine as we can just keep him then.

I wouldn't trade O.G. to the Magic without the ORL '23 pick coming back.


ya, the Raps aren't trading OG for a backup guard, a backup big and a pick that will likely end up 10-15.

The raps already passed on Suggs for a reason and unless Suggs discovers the ability to shoot, which he hasn't yet in 2 seasons, there's not much potential there beyond being a good defensive bench guard.
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Re: WT: Raptors have been offered 3 FRPs for OG 

Post#132 » by God Squad » Wed Jan 25, 2023 4:59 pm

mtcan wrote:
Merit wrote:Raps have never not paid their own stars under Masai. If we move OG it’s a scorched earth rebuild. OG, pascal and Scottie are the 3 true untouchables with Fred in that next tier imo.

Scottie, Koloko and Precious are the only ones who should be considered untouchable. If the right haul comes along for Pascal...he gone!!

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Re: WT: Raptors have been offered 3 FRPs for OG 

Post#133 » by mtcan » Wed Jan 25, 2023 5:04 pm

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mtcan wrote:
Merit wrote:Raps have never not paid their own stars under Masai. If we move OG it’s a scorched earth rebuild. OG, pascal and Scottie are the 3 true untouchables with Fred in that next tier imo.

Scottie, Koloko and Precious are the only ones who should be considered untouchable. If the right haul comes along for Pascal...he gone!!

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Young guys on rookie contracts? No need to rush with these guys.
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Re: WT: Raptors have been offered 3 FRPs for OG 

Post#134 » by God Squad » Wed Jan 25, 2023 5:06 pm

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mtcan wrote:Scottie, Koloko and Precious are the only ones who should be considered untouchable. If the right haul comes along for Pascal...he gone!!

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Young guys on rookie contracts? No need to rush with these guys.

Cool. But untouchable? C'mon. Scottie is the only untouchable and the front office knows this. Hence why Scottie isn't playing in Brooklyn.
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Re: WT: Raptors have been offered 3 FRPs for OG 

Post#135 » by Zeno » Wed Jan 25, 2023 5:06 pm

OG to Knicks for their 2023, 2025 unprotected plus the Dallas 2023 pick. Then trade Fred to Dallas for Bertans and the lifting of protection on the 2023 pick and their 2025 pick.
When will we just change the name of 25 of the 30 teams to the Washington Generals?

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Re: WT: Raptors have been offered 3 FRPs for OG 

Post#136 » by gerrit4 » Wed Jan 25, 2023 5:06 pm

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mtcan wrote:
Merit wrote:Raps have never not paid their own stars under Masai. If we move OG it’s a scorched earth rebuild. OG, pascal and Scottie are the 3 true untouchables with Fred in that next tier imo.

Scottie, Koloko and Precious are the only ones who should be considered untouchable. If the right haul comes along for Pascal...he gone!!


Why so much love for Koloko? Agreed on Precious, but even he and Fred can be moved in the right deal imo. I do think Koloko is worth more to us right now than he is in trade.



I'd argue that Precious and Koloko don't really have much trade value, and are still very interesting prospects at a position of great need (if you consider Precious a 5). I wouldn't say they are untouchable, but I can't imagine a deal that would ever make sense that includes them.
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Post#137 » by kieferli » Wed Jan 25, 2023 9:58 pm

steveholt wrote:If true, take it and run Masai !

Lol what’s if this is like all 20 + pick? You still want 3 lowers pick?
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Re: WT: Raptors have been offered 3 FRPs for OG 

Post#138 » by hyper316 » Thu Jan 26, 2023 12:16 am

Zeno wrote:OG to Knicks for their 2023, 2025 unprotected plus the Dallas 2023 pick. Then trade Fred to Dallas for Bertans and the lifting of protection on the 2023 pick and their 2025 pick.


Unprotected Mavs pick in 2023 or 2025 doesn't seem that good, Luka alone would make the Mavs a perennial playoff team
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Re: WT: Raptors have been offered 3 FRPs for OG 

Post#139 » by dgr81 » Thu Jan 26, 2023 12:23 am

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Re: WT: Raptors have been offered 3 FRPs for OG 

Post#140 » by Zeno » Thu Jan 26, 2023 12:25 am

hyper316 wrote:
Zeno wrote:OG to Knicks for their 2023, 2025 unprotected plus the Dallas 2023 pick. Then trade Fred to Dallas for Bertans and the lifting of protection on the 2023 pick and their 2025 pick.


Unprotected Mavs pick in 2023 or 2025 doesn't seem that good, Luka alone would make the Mavs a perennial playoff team

He’s not doing that good of a job dragging what he has now. But in retrospect Bertans deal is a bridge too far. Need Green thrown in. Maybe swap rights 2024 too. That would be three years where if Donic gets hurt, the team likely collapses. They are overplaying him, usage wise.
When will we just change the name of 25 of the 30 teams to the Washington Generals?

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