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Re: Around the League: 2022-23 Season 3.0 

Post#81 » by the_process » Tue Jan 24, 2023 7:23 pm

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the_process wrote:If there's a team that really offered 3 1sts for OG Anunoby... it has to be Memphis.


New Orleans seems like a plausible candidate as well.


I thought of them, but they have Ingram and Herb Jones and Trey Murphy. Minutes get tight.

The other team that has the picks to spare is OKC, but are they ready to start going in right now?
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Post#82 » by the_process » Tue Jan 24, 2023 7:24 pm

Jailblazers7 wrote:I find the 3 FRP for OG rumor a little hard to believe because I can’t think of a reason why the Raptors would say no.


Masai takes his cues from Ainge and now only wants picks projected in the lottery?

I do agree it seems a 3 1st round pick offer for Anunoby should have been jumped on.
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Re: Around the League: 2022-23 Season 3.0 

Post#83 » by Stanford » Tue Jan 24, 2023 8:53 pm

Yeah, the protection on the picks tells the real story
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Post#84 » by mjkvol » Tue Jan 24, 2023 11:29 pm

Jailblazers7 wrote:Nice trade for LA. It seems like the Rui/Wiz relationship fell apart and the Lakers are smart to swoop in. He’ll be useful as a spot up shooter and rebounder next to Lebron.


I don't see it that way. WAS got three 2nd's for a guy they had no intention of resigning.

The Lakers are insane to empty the cupboard and kill their future to placate James despite the fact they aren't winning anything this year so he can f***k them and leave them in ashes the same way he has everywhere he's been.
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Post#85 » by ExplosionsInDaSky » Wed Jan 25, 2023 2:40 am

Obviously Lebron will ghost LA, and Hachimura certainly doesn't make them the favorites of the west. But in my opinion, he's an underrated addition that they can use now and in the future. He was criminally underutilized in Washington, and I really like his fit with the Lakers. When Lebron does bolt, Hachimura can either be a piece they try and rebuild with, or a player that they can showcase and eventually flip for a high draft pick. I really wish we could have gotten him, but he really wasn't a fit here. With that said, I would like to see us add another relatively young player who just needs a change of scenery.
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Post#86 » by Embiid P » Wed Jan 25, 2023 5:02 am

C's lose another to the Heat which puts us only 2 games behind them in the loss column.
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Post#87 » by 76ciology » Wed Jan 25, 2023 5:16 am

I think LAL is copying Bucks blueprint and will use Rui like Bobby Portis and Bryant as Brolo.
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Re: Around the League: 2022-23 Season 3.0 

Post#88 » by Kova » Wed Jan 25, 2023 1:00 pm

So nice. We were winning and still couldn't cut the gap behind Celtics, and then they lose 2 in 2 nights. :)
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Post#89 » by Murray_17 » Wed Jan 25, 2023 1:12 pm

76ciology wrote:I think LAL is copying Bucks blueprint and will use Rui like Bobby Portis and Bryant as Brolo.



How??? Nor Rui or Bryan can stretch the floor.

Not to mention, Portis and Brook are A LOT better on defense
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Post#90 » by 76ciology » Wed Jan 25, 2023 3:29 pm

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76ciology wrote:I think LAL is copying Bucks blueprint and will use Rui like Bobby Portis and Bryant as Brolo.



How??? Nor Rui or Bryan can stretch the floor.

Not to mention, Portis and Brook are A LOT better on defense


Zach Lowe talked about it on their pod. Thomas Bryant was a good shooter and a decent rim protector before he went down with an injury after the bubble and he has shown the capability to get it back based on his recent play. Rui shot 44% from 3s on 3 attempts per game last season. Both guys has shown ability to stretch the floor.
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Re: Around the League: 2022-23 Season 3.0 

Post#91 » by Eyeamok » Wed Jan 25, 2023 3:47 pm

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Jailblazers7 wrote:Nice trade for LA. It seems like the Rui/Wiz relationship fell apart and the Lakers are smart to swoop in. He’ll be useful as a spot up shooter and rebounder next to Lebron.


I don't see it that way. WAS got three 2nd's for a guy they had no intention of resigning.

The Lakers are insane to empty the cupboard and kill their future to placate James despite the fact they aren't winning anything this year so he can f***k them and leave them in ashes the same way he has everywhere he's been.


I don't like that narrative. James left Cleveland, went to Miami won titles....went back to Cleveland picked up where he left off and won a title. Left Cleveland went to LA and got them a title. How is this f***g a team ? He has delivered everywhere he has played.
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Post#92 » by Murray_17 » Wed Jan 25, 2023 5:07 pm

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Zach Lowe talked about it on their pod. Thomas Bryant was a good shooter and a decent rim protector before he went down with an injury after the bubble and he has shown the capability to get it back based on his recent play. Rui shot 44% from 3s on 3 attempts per game last season. Both guys has shown ability to stretch the floor.



Bryant never has taken above 2 shots from 3 in his career and Rui played only 42 games last season. Rui, this season, is shooting 34% on 3 attempts

At best that would be one of the worst shooting seasons for Porter, not even mention Brook, who take at least 4 3s since being on the Bucks. This season alone he's taking 5 3s on 39%
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Post#93 » by 76ciology » Wed Jan 25, 2023 5:11 pm

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Zach Lowe talked about it on their pod. Thomas Bryant was a good shooter and a decent rim protector before he went down with an injury after the bubble and he has shown the capability to get it back based on his recent play. Rui shot 44% from 3s on 3 attempts per game last season. Both guys has shown ability to stretch the floor.



Bryant never has taken above 2 shots from 3 in his career and Rui played only 42 games last season. Rui, this season, is shooting 34% on 3 attempts

At best that would be one of the worst shooting seasons for Porter, not even mention Brook, who take at least 4 3s since being on the Bucks. This season alone he's taking 5 3s on 39%


I didnt say anything about them being AS GOOD as Porter or Brolo. I said them playing similar roles. These are two different things. They can play the said roles with their shooting profile.
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Post#94 » by Murray_17 » Wed Jan 25, 2023 5:44 pm

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I didnt say anything about them being AS GOOD as Porter or Brolo. I said them playing similar roles. These are two different things. They can play the said roles with their shooting profile.



I mean, the point is precisely that they would not play good on those roles.

If i'm playing against the Lakers i just double Lebron/AD and force Bryant, Rui et al to take 3s.
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Post#95 » by 76ciology » Wed Jan 25, 2023 6:13 pm

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76ciology wrote:
I didnt say anything about them being AS GOOD as Porter or Brolo. I said them playing similar roles. These are two different things. They can play the said roles with their shooting profile.



I mean, the point is precisely that they would not play good on those roles.

If i'm playing against the Lakers i just double Lebron/AD and force Bryant, Rui et al to take 3s.


Sure. Take note the shooting % u just used are counting challenged, semi-challenged, open and wide open 3s. A guy shooting 35-ish% for the season is likely gonna knock down wide open 3s at 40 to 50-ish% rate. Hahaha

Look at how Thomas Bryant knocked down 4 3s and scored 31 the other night.



Rui is also shown ability to knock down 3s.
The guy averaged 45% on 3s last season.



These two aren’t the type of guys you can treat like Ben Simmons or Montrez Harrell on offense
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Post#96 » by the_process » Wed Jan 25, 2023 6:22 pm

I don’t think he’s leaving LA. Business interests, wife loves it there. Also, summer of 25 Lakers own their first again. Bronny spends two years in college and it lines up. LBJ is also a FA that summer, can re-sign cheaper if the team has a FA lined up. Plays one or two years with his son and retires. It’s the Kobe extended retirement tour all over again :lol:

Wouldn’t surprise me if Bron ends up buying the Lakers from Jeanie and her brothers at some point down the line.
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Post#97 » by Murray_17 » Wed Jan 25, 2023 6:43 pm

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Sure. Take note the shooting % u just used are counting challenged, semi-challenged, open and wide open 3s. A guy shooting 35-ish% for the season is likely gonna knock down wide open 3s at 40 to 50-ish% rate. Hahaha


Sure, if they take so few volume 3s, this difference is irrelevant.

More over, with that volume the more possible scenary is that those 3s they take are wide open or buzz beater/broken plays.

76ciology wrote:Look at how Thomas Bryant knocked down 4 3s and scored 31 the other night.




Wow, a 1 game sample :P

Let me go show you the random game of Matisse hitting 3 3s to argue with you he can be a decent shooter.

76ciology wrote:Rui is also shown ability to knock down 3s.
The guy averaged 45% on 3s last season.



These two aren’t the type of guys you can treat like Ben Simmons or Montrez Harrell on offense


Again, Rui played 42 games last season.

Bledsoe was hitting this % on an identical volume of 3s and he was allowing teams to double Giannis. This also are the %s of peak Westbrook.

Those guys are not gonna play like bigs because they're gonna be paired with Lebron and AD, they need to take a lot of 3s, just like we need Tobias to hit a stupid amount of 3s because he plays with Joel and PJ.
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Post#98 » by Negrodamus » Wed Jan 25, 2023 6:47 pm

I actually think it was a good trade for both. Gave the Wiz a reason to not just let Rui's contract expire and got some value out of him. Lakers take a chance on a young, underperforming tweener who has shown flashes of great play. They got some quality time out of reclamation projects like Malik Monk and Lonnie Walker. Likely due to the LeBron effect, but I could see Rui making a resurgence in time for his next contract.
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Post#99 » by 76ciology » Wed Jan 25, 2023 6:50 pm

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76ciology wrote:
Sure. Take note the shooting % u just used are counting challenged, semi-challenged, open and wide open 3s. A guy shooting 35-ish% for the season is likely gonna knock down wide open 3s at 40 to 50-ish% rate. Hahaha


Sure, if they take so few volume 3s, this difference is irrelevant.

More over, with that volume the more possible scenary is that those 3s they take are wide open or buzz beater/broken plays.

76ciology wrote:Look at how Thomas Bryant knocked down 4 3s and scored 31 the other night.




Wow, a 1 game sample :P

Let me go show you the random game of Matisse hitting 3 3s to argue with you he can be a decent shooter.

76ciology wrote:Rui is also shown ability to knock down 3s.
The guy averaged 45% on 3s last season.



These two aren’t the type of guys you can treat like Ben Simmons or Montrez Harrell on offense


Bledsoe was hitting this % on an identical volume of 3s and he was allowing teams to double Giannis. This also are the % of peak Westbrook.

Those guys are not gonna play like bigs because they're gonna be paired with Lebron and AD, they need to take a lot of 3s, just like we need Tobias to hit a stupid amount of 3s because he plays with Joel and PJ.


Hahaha they’re nowhere as bad as shooters as Matisse.

Bledsoe is a below average shooter for a GUARD.

Hachimura and Thomas Bryant are above average to very good shooters for 4&5.

Both guys have shown that they are capable to average good shooting numbers for an entire season.

Thomas Bryant is shooting 44% from 3s this season and 40+% back in 2019-2020. Hachimura shot 44% from 3s last season.

Teams aren’t gonna leave these two guys open like your imagination tells you.

You’ll see what i mean.
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Post#100 » by Eyeamok » Wed Jan 25, 2023 7:33 pm

the_process wrote:I don’t think he’s leaving LA. Business interests, wife loves it there. Also, summer of 25 Lakers own their first again. Bronny spends two years in college and it lines up. LBJ is also a FA that summer, can re-sign cheaper if the team has a FA lined up. Plays one or two years with his son and retires. It’s the Kobe extended retirement tour all over again :lol:

Wouldn’t surprise me if Bron ends up buying the Lakers from Jeanie and her brothers at some point down the line.


I would hate to play with my father especially if he is a superstar. Everything I "earn" playing time, praise from coaches, people will automatically think oh it's because of his father. The media will be all over me because of my father, that is a big spotlight. The younger players accept you but do they really? I mean they can't talk crap about the veterans in your presence because you could be a snitch. On paper and for Lebron's movie it sounds good but in reality it probably would be extremely hard for his son. Let him sink or swim on his own merit on any of the other teams in the league.

Probably the closest thing to this is Doc coaching his sons. But neither one of them came to play for him straight out of college.
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