2022-23 Season Discussion and Speculation 4 - Trade season continues - No player trade restrictions

Ghost of Kleine · Post #381 » by **Ghost of Kleine** » Wed Jan 25, 2023 8:10 pm

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Ghost of Kleine · Post #382 » by **Ghost of Kleine** » Wed Jan 25, 2023 8:26 pm

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Ghost of Kleine · Post #383 » by **Ghost of Kleine** » Wed Jan 25, 2023 8:30 pm

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This is really good news ...................right??? It'll ensure a big move?

sunsbum · Post #384 » by **sunsbum** » Wed Jan 25, 2023 8:31 pm

Djedefre wrote:Mikal looks a bit better this few games, but to say he's significantly improved his game is a big stretch. Not convinced he's capable of being a 3rd option on offense in the playoffs, let alone something more. I really do not see any room for optimism unless we make a big splash trade.

I think Mikal could be a great 3rd option if we had a 2nd guy like Jayson Tatum has in Jalen Brown or Jokic/Murray. We just need to have a bigger #2 punch.

WeekapaugGroove · Post #385 » by **WeekapaugGroove** » Wed Jan 25, 2023 8:40 pm

Ghost of Kleine wrote:

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This is really good news ...................right??? It'll ensure a big move?

Maybe, it certainly opens up the possibility of a big move. But it's also possible Mat will want to spend some time with this current group before deciding on any big changes. Plus I'd say Ayton is the most likely chip to be used in a big deal and he can veto a trade until this summer.

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spanishninja · Post #386 » by **spanishninja** » Wed Jan 25, 2023 8:48 pm

WeekapaugGroove wrote:
Ghost of Kleine wrote:

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This is really good news ...................right??? It'll ensure a big move?
Maybe, it certainly opens up the possibility of a big move. But it's also possible Mat will want to spend some time with this current group before deciding on any big changes. Plus I'd say Ayton is the most likely chip to be used in a big deal and he can veto a trade until this summer.

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whether this is good or bad depends on if Ishbia really understands the NBA.

Saberestar · Post #387 » by **Saberestar** » Wed Jan 25, 2023 8:49 pm

Devin Booker continues progressing and will be re-evaluated in one week, per Suns.

King4Day · Post #388 » by **King4Day** » Wed Jan 25, 2023 8:56 pm

Ghost of Kleine wrote:

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This is really good news ...................right??? It'll ensure a big move?

Him being hands on isn't necessarily a good thing. Forcing a trade that requires us to give up more than the player is worth is dangerous. If he does this, then no doubt Jones is gone after this season is over

BobbieL · Post #389 » by **BobbieL** » Wed Jan 25, 2023 9:17 pm

King4Day wrote:
Ghost of Kleine wrote:

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This is really good news ...................right??? It'll ensure a big move?

Him being hands on isn't necessarily a good thing. Forcing a trade that requires us to give up more than the player is worth is dangerous. If he does this, then no doubt Jones is gone after this season is over

Agreed - let the professionals do the job

Now if he is willing to pay lux tax and what not - thats fine

WeekapaugGroove · Post #390 » by **WeekapaugGroove** » Wed Jan 25, 2023 9:18 pm

King4Day wrote:
Ghost of Kleine wrote:

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This is really good news ...................right??? It'll ensure a big move?

Him being hands on isn't necessarily a good thing. Forcing a trade that requires us to give up more than the player is worth is dangerous. If he does this, then no doubt Jones is gone after this season is over

Yeah lots of owners, especially new ones, are pretty hands on. These guys pay a lot for their toy and often have had so much success in their other businesses they think they know how to build a team. I get it. One of the main jobs of a good GM is to manage an owner and steer their desires in a positive direction.

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BobbieL · Post #391 » by **BobbieL** » Wed Jan 25, 2023 9:19 pm

King4Day wrote:
Ghost of Kleine wrote:

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This is really good news ...................right??? It'll ensure a big move?

Him being hands on isn't necessarily a good thing. Forcing a trade that requires us to give up more than the player is worth is dangerous. If he does this, then no doubt Jones is gone after this season is over

Agreed - let the professionals do the job

Now if he is willing to pay lux tax and what not - thats fine

SlovenianDragon · Post #392 » by **SlovenianDragon** » Wed Jan 25, 2023 9:50 pm

BobbieL wrote:
King4Day wrote:
Ghost of Kleine wrote:

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This is really good news ...................right??? It'll ensure a big move?

Him being hands on isn't necessarily a good thing. Forcing a trade that requires us to give up more than the player is worth is dangerous. If he does this, then no doubt Jones is gone after this season is over

Agreed - let the professionals do the job

Now if he is willing to pay lux tax and what not - thats fine

Eh if I was owner of the suns I would 100% be involved...I think most people here would too.

The good news for us is he has basketball experience so he's not just a suit with money...

Although there is Michael Jordan...lol

Anyways I'm optimistic...

spanishninja · Post #393 » by **spanishninja** » Wed Jan 25, 2023 9:53 pm

SlovenianDragon wrote:
BobbieL wrote:
King4Day wrote:
Him being hands on isn't necessarily a good thing. Forcing a trade that requires us to give up more than the player is worth is dangerous. If he does this, then no doubt Jones is gone after this season is over

Agreed - let the professionals do the job

Now if he is willing to pay lux tax and what not - thats fine

Eh if I was owner of the suns I would 100% be involved...I think most people here would too.

The good news for us is he has basketball experience so he's not just a suit with money...

Although there is Michael Jordan...lol

Anyways I'm optimistic...

depends on what you mean by "basketball experience". does being a benchwarmer on an NCAA team translate to making moves as an NBA owner?

SlovenianDragon · Post #394 » by **SlovenianDragon** » Wed Jan 25, 2023 9:57 pm

spanishninja wrote:
SlovenianDragon wrote:
BobbieL wrote:
Agreed - let the professionals do the job

Now if he is willing to pay lux tax and what not - thats fine

Eh if I was owner of the suns I would 100% be involved...I think most people here would too.

The good news for us is he has basketball experience so he's not just a suit with money...

Although there is Michael Jordan...lol

Anyways I'm optimistic...

depends on what you mean by "basketball experience". does being a benchwarmer on an NCAA team translate to making moves as an NBA owner?

I think being an nba owner gives him the right to make moves as the nba owner...lol.

The fact hes played basketball is probably a benefit over an owner who could have no idea about basketball but wants to tinker with the team.

TeamTragic · Post #395 » by **TeamTragic** » Wed Jan 25, 2023 10:42 pm

Ghost of Kleine wrote:

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This is really good news ...................right??? It'll ensure a big move?

Nobody currently available is worth risking our future. Matt knows that trading picks should not be taken lightly.

Stay the course and wait until we have everyone back healthy.

spanishninja · Post #396 » by **spanishninja** » Wed Jan 25, 2023 10:46 pm

SlovenianDragon wrote:
spanishninja wrote:
SlovenianDragon wrote:
Eh if I was owner of the suns I would 100% be involved...I think most people here would too.

The good news for us is he has basketball experience so he's not just a suit with money...

Although there is Michael Jordan...lol

Anyways I'm optimistic...

depends on what you mean by "basketball experience". does being a benchwarmer on an NCAA team translate to making moves as an NBA owner?

I think being an nba owner gives him the right to make moves as the nba owner...lol.

The fact hes played basketball is probably a benefit over an owner who could have no idea about basketball but wants to tinker with the team.

you know what I mean. making GOOD moves, otherwise he's just Sarver with less frugality.

WeekapaugGroove · Post #397 » by **WeekapaugGroove** » Wed Jan 25, 2023 10:56 pm

spanishninja wrote:
SlovenianDragon wrote:
spanishninja wrote:
depends on what you mean by "basketball experience". does being a benchwarmer on an NCAA team translate to making moves as an NBA owner?

I think being an nba owner gives him the right to make moves as the nba owner...lol.

The fact hes played basketball is probably a benefit over an owner who could have no idea about basketball but wants to tinker with the team.

you know what I mean. making GOOD moves, otherwise he's just Sarver with less frugality.

Plus hopefully minus the toxic culture.

A not cheap and non scumbag Sarver wouldn't have been that bad.

ALL owners have some say in transactions, GMs are their employees and it's their money being spent. The good owners hire good people and listen to their advice but the final decision is theirs.

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BobbieL · Post #398 » by **BobbieL** » Wed Jan 25, 2023 11:10 pm

WeekapaugGroove wrote:
spanishninja wrote:
SlovenianDragon wrote:
I think being an nba owner gives him the right to make moves as the nba owner...lol.

The fact hes played basketball is probably a benefit over an owner who could have no idea about basketball but wants to tinker with the team.

you know what I mean. making GOOD moves, otherwise he's just Sarver with less frugality.
Plus hopefully minus the toxic culture.

A not cheap and non scumbag Sarver wouldn't have been that bad.

ALL owners have some say in transactions, GMs are their employees and it's their money being spent. The good owners hire good people and listen to their advice but the final decision is theirs.

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Good culture - important

Fiscal Sanity: Sarver was a yo-yo about one day spending money, the next day saving or vice versa. Have a 3-5 year rolling vision of the cap, luxury tax and how much you want to commit to the organization for the players

A fun time for him to take over -the trade deadline - see what he really wants to do an dhow much he is willing to spend this year and next

Ghost of Kleine · Post #399 » by **Ghost of Kleine** » Wed Jan 25, 2023 11:41 pm

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Should we have any interest in either of these situations?? I certainly wouldn't mind us pursuing Young as a superstar addition to be our PGOTF. And work around that premise this summer! I think something around a Paul/ Johnson/ filler/ 3 1sts could maybe get things done or else some derivation of a 3 team Ayton trade perhaps?

Ghost of Kleine · Post #400 » by **Ghost of Kleine** » Wed Jan 25, 2023 11:42 pm

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Initial thoughts on KD for Bridges, Cam, Crowder, plus picks?