Do you like LeBron as a player?

ceiling raiser · Post #1 » by **ceiling raiser** » Thu Jan 26, 2023 12:44 am

In terms of playstyle, tendencies, intangibles, moves, etc. Do you like him as a player?

One Last Shot · Post #2 » by **One Last Shot** » Thu Jan 26, 2023 12:47 am

If you don't like LeBron as a player without his shenanigans like "not one, not two", you don't like basketball at all.

Onlytimewilltel · Post #3 » by **Onlytimewilltel** » Thu Jan 26, 2023 1:02 am

Myth · Post #4 » by **Myth** » Thu Jan 26, 2023 1:08 am

I like LeBron as a player and I like LeBron for his minimal off court controversies and things he does to try to help others. The one thing that really drives me to not root for him is the idea that he tries to stack the deck for easy championships and leaves teams that he pushed to use up all their assets and not stick with the mess he helped create.

Ballerhogger · Post #5 » by **Ballerhogger** » Thu Jan 26, 2023 1:12 am

He’s great . He can still fly at 38 . His athleticism is out of this world . In prime years he was quicker than he is now . Quite the player . I don’t see another Lebron coming again .

MarcusBrody · Post #6 » by **MarcusBrody** » Thu Jan 26, 2023 1:14 am

I still really like to watch him, but at his peak, he was probably my favorite player from a fan of the game point of view. I love really good passers and he combined that with incredible athleticism. It made for a great show.

I didn't love him in general when he was young for somewhat silly reasons, but I grew to appreciate him a lot more over time and I ended up really liking him as a player (and respecting a lot of what he has tried to accomplish off court too, even if I don't agree with him on everything). I'm glad I got to see his career.

JRoy · Post #7 » by **JRoy** » Thu Jan 26, 2023 1:36 am

No.

A guy built like Karl Malone shouldn’t collapse to the ground with the slightest contact.

He’s an all time great but that nonsense is embarrassing.

Kingdibs19 · Post #8 » by **Kingdibs19** » Thu Jan 26, 2023 1:37 am

If you don’t like Lebron as a player than you don’t like basketball.

Watch on YouTube

Post #9 » by **dockingsched** » Thu Jan 26, 2023 1:42 am

Myth wrote:I like LeBron as a player and I like LeBron for his minimal off court controversies and things he does to try to help others. The one thing that really drives me to not root for him is the idea that he tries to stack the deck for easy championships and leaves teams that he pushed to use up all their assets and not stick with the mess he helped create.

I’ll never get this mindset. Like teams aren’t completely in control of their maneuvers and aren’t more than happy to have Lebron on their roster winning rings and raising their team valuation.

jlokine · Post #10 » by **jlokine** » Thu Jan 26, 2023 1:50 am

he was more must watch basketball when he was younger and with the cavs. since the heatles, all the other stuffs are baggage he brings with him... the "i need more help", the alienating his teammates on the lakers, the flopping, the complaining about calls, the leGM stuff... you cant watch his basketball without thinking of all of the above.. that's what turns me off now.. i think he was the greatest player on the planet for a long time and deserved few more mvps if it werent for the narrative driven nature of the vote for the award...

LakersLegacy · Post #11 » by **LakersLegacy** » Thu Jan 26, 2023 1:56 am

How could you not like LeBron as a player. All that power and he can be a bruiser. Also capable of finesse and soft touch. Pass first often.

Now the things he says off the court and the crying on the court is totally okay to not like. He would be universally liked without that stuff

Myth · Post #12 » by **Myth** » Thu Jan 26, 2023 1:59 am

dockingsched wrote:
Myth wrote:I like LeBron as a player and I like LeBron for his minimal off court controversies and things he does to try to help others. The one thing that really drives me to not root for him is the idea that he tries to stack the deck for easy championships and leaves teams that he pushed to use up all their assets and not stick with the mess he helped create.

I’ll never get this mindset. Like teams aren’t completely in control of their maneuvers and aren’t more than happy to have Lebron on their roster winning rings and raising their team valuation.

To me it is like going to the a court or a gym and all the best players choosing to be on the same team all the time. If the players in the nba are competitive, then want to prove themselves as able to beat the other great players, not team up because that proves much less. If players had that mindset and teams focus their best on building around what stars they do have, it makes it more balanced.

Noctilux · Post #13 » by **Noctilux** » Thu Jan 26, 2023 2:03 am

JRoy wrote:No.

A guy built like Karl Malone shouldn’t collapse to the ground with the slightest contact.

He’s an all time great but that nonsense is embarrassing.

Karl Malone was quite an embarrassment off the court though :lol:

Meat · Post #14 » by **Meat** » Thu Jan 26, 2023 2:04 am

Myth wrote:
dockingsched wrote:
Myth wrote:I like LeBron as a player and I like LeBron for his minimal off court controversies and things he does to try to help others. The one thing that really drives me to not root for him is the idea that he tries to stack the deck for easy championships and leaves teams that he pushed to use up all their assets and not stick with the mess he helped create.

I’ll never get this mindset. Like teams aren’t completely in control of their maneuvers and aren’t more than happy to have Lebron on their roster winning rings and raising their team valuation.

To me it is like going to the a court or a gym and all the best players choosing to be on the same team all the time. If the players in the nba are competitive, then want to prove themselves as able to beat the other great players, not team up because that proves much less. If players had that mindset and teams focus their best on building around what stars they do have, it makes it more balanced.

what is this fantasy you have about the nba or player. the point is to win, you dont get extra points by winning harder

The Laker Kid · Post #15 » by **The Laker Kid** » Thu Jan 26, 2023 2:11 am

One Last Shot wrote:If you don't like LeBron as a player without his shenanigans like "not one, not two", you don't like basketball at all.

Fine. I don't like basketball then

His moves are awkward, aesthetically non-pleasing. He misses a lot of free throws and doesn't take over games like Kobe. Afraid to take the last shot. Travels a lot. Complains a lot. Only does 1 type of dunk. I dunno, he's really good though. But you asked the question, and my answer is no. He's a Laker though..

Myth · Post #16 » by **Myth** » Thu Jan 26, 2023 2:12 am

Meat wrote:
Myth wrote:
dockingsched wrote:I’ll never get this mindset. Like teams aren’t completely in control of their maneuvers and aren’t more than happy to have Lebron on their roster winning rings and raising their team valuation.

To me it is like going to the a court or a gym and all the best players choosing to be on the same team all the time. If the players in the nba are competitive, then want to prove themselves as able to beat the other great players, not team up because that proves much less. If players had that mindset and teams focus their best on building around what stars they do have, it makes it more balanced.

what is this fantasy you have about the nba or player. the point is to win, you dont get extra points by winning harder

I believe many people on this very board have indicated greater respect for the championships of Hakeem, Dirk, and Giannis. Durant’s Warriors championships are also heavily scrutinized. This shouldn’t be a foreign concept.

Post #17 » by **dockingsched** » Thu Jan 26, 2023 2:15 am

Myth wrote:
dockingsched wrote:
Myth wrote:I like LeBron as a player and I like LeBron for his minimal off court controversies and things he does to try to help others. The one thing that really drives me to not root for him is the idea that he tries to stack the deck for easy championships and leaves teams that he pushed to use up all their assets and not stick with the mess he helped create.

I’ll never get this mindset. Like teams aren’t completely in control of their maneuvers and aren’t more than happy to have Lebron on their roster winning rings and raising their team valuation.

To me it is like going to the a court or a gym and all the best players choosing to be on the same team all the time. If the players in the nba are competitive, then want to prove themselves as able to beat the other great players, not team up because that proves much less. If players had that mindset and teams focus their best on building around what stars they do have, it makes it more balanced.

“I hate Lebron for not letting teams build around him, also I hate Lebron for letting teams do everything they can to build around him”

Got it :lol:

Statlanta · Post #18 » by **Statlanta** » Thu Jan 26, 2023 2:16 am

No, to be honest he is more businessman than NBA player.

He is the evolution of the NBA businessman like Wilt, Dr. J, Bird/Magic, MJ, Shaq, and Kobe.

Myth · Post #19 » by **Myth** » Thu Jan 26, 2023 2:22 am

dockingsched wrote:
Myth wrote:
dockingsched wrote:I’ll never get this mindset. Like teams aren’t completely in control of their maneuvers and aren’t more than happy to have Lebron on their roster winning rings and raising their team valuation.

To me it is like going to the a court or a gym and all the best players choosing to be on the same team all the time. If the players in the nba are competitive, then want to prove themselves as able to beat the other great players, not team up because that proves much less. If players had that mindset and teams focus their best on building around what stars they do have, it makes it more balanced.

“I hate Lebron for not letting teams build around him, also I hate Lebron for letting teams do everything they can to build around him”

Got it

Strange interpretation of what I said, but whatever.

Meat · Post #20 » by **Meat** » Thu Jan 26, 2023 2:24 am

Myth wrote:
Meat wrote:
Myth wrote:
To me it is like going to the a court or a gym and all the best players choosing to be on the same team all the time. If the players in the nba are competitive, then want to prove themselves as able to beat the other great players, not team up because that proves much less. If players had that mindset and teams focus their best on building around what stars they do have, it makes it more balanced.

what is this fantasy you have about the nba or player. the point is to win, you dont get extra points by winning harder

I believe many people on this very board have indicated greater respect for the championships of Hakeem, Dirk, and Giannis. Durant’s Warriors championships are also heavily scrutinized. This shouldn’t be a foreign concept.

board respect means **** all to anyone but people on the board. no one cares about what a bunch of virgins say, well maybe kd