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I'm starting to think the Raptors will overhaul a bit pre-deadline, but also get a ridiculous return and Raptors fans are closer than a lot of us think on what they get.
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Mamba4Goat wrote:Texas Chuck wrote:
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That would make me the radio voice of the little Mavs.
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NYG wrote:I'm starting to think the Raptors will overhaul a bit pre-deadline, but also get a ridiculous return and Raptors fans are closer than a lot of us think on what they get.
Maybe the Gobert package from Dallas might make sense.
Edit: kind of like how that turns out.
Poeltl/Bullock/Josh Green to Toronto
Bertans/McGee to SA
FVV/OG/Achiuwa to Dallas
San Antonio and Toronto divvy up all of Dallas’ draft picks. Would be a follow up move for Toronto but they’d have a fun team and some picks. I’d do Trent for Clarkson and have a mixed crew of Clarkson, Barnes, Siakam, Poeltl and a good draft choice this year.
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165bows wrote:NYG wrote:I'm starting to think the Raptors will overhaul a bit pre-deadline, but also get a ridiculous return and Raptors fans are closer than a lot of us think on what they get.
Maybe the Gobert package from Dallas might make sense.
Edit: kind of like how that turns out.
Poeltl/Bullock/Josh Green to Toronto
Bertans/McGee to SA
FVV/OG/Achiuwa to Dallas
San Antonio and Toronto divvy up all of Dallas’ draft picks. Would be a follow up move for Toronto but they’d have a fun team and some picks. I’d do Trent for Clarkson and have a mixed crew of Clarkson, Barnes, Siakam, Poeltl and a good draft choice this year.
I don't think Dallas has enough picks to satisfy everyone there.
I like the Hawks as a potential Siakam destination... I was thinking something like this?
John Collins to the Pacers
Daniel Theis, Onyeka Okongwu, AJ Griffin, 2023 Celtics 1st, 2023 Cavaliers 1st and 2029 Unprotected Hawks 1st to the Raptors
Pascal Siakam to the Hawks
Is Griffin and Okongwu enough of a headliner to overcome the lack of picks?
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I don't think any Knicks fans agree, but I would do...
OG Anunoby for Obi Toppin, Immanuel Quickley, Cam Reddish, 2023 Unprotected Knicks 1st, 2023 Top 10 Protected Mavs 1st and 2025 Unprotected Knicks 1st
You combine that with the deal above then follow it up with FVV and GTJ for Westbrook, '27 and '29 1sts and that's a nice young future for the Raptors in my opinion at least.
OG Anunoby for Obi Toppin, Immanuel Quickley, Cam Reddish, 2023 Unprotected Knicks 1st, 2023 Top 10 Protected Mavs 1st and 2025 Unprotected Knicks 1st
You combine that with the deal above then follow it up with FVV and GTJ for Westbrook, '27 and '29 1sts and that's a nice young future for the Raptors in my opinion at least.
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NYG wrote:165bows wrote:NYG wrote:I'm starting to think the Raptors will overhaul a bit pre-deadline, but also get a ridiculous return and Raptors fans are closer than a lot of us think on what they get.
Maybe the Gobert package from Dallas might make sense.
Edit: kind of like how that turns out.
Poeltl/Bullock/Josh Green to Toronto
Bertans/McGee to SA
FVV/OG/Achiuwa to Dallas
San Antonio and Toronto divvy up all of Dallas’ draft picks. Would be a follow up move for Toronto but they’d have a fun team and some picks. I’d do Trent for Clarkson and have a mixed crew of Clarkson, Barnes, Siakam, Poeltl and a good draft choice this year.
I don't think Dallas has enough picks to satisfy everyone there.
I like the Hawks as a potential Siakam destination... I was thinking something like this?
John Collins to the Pacers
Daniel Theis, Onyeka Okongwu, AJ Griffin, 2023 Celtics 1st, 2023 Cavaliers 1st and 2029 Unprotected Hawks 1st to the Raptors
Pascal Siakam to the Hawks
Is Griffin and Okongwu enough of a headliner to overcome the lack of picks?
Yeah prob right on mine but I think yours may be the same lol. Not many outfits more pick poor than Atlanta.
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165bows wrote:NYG wrote:165bows wrote:Maybe the Gobert package from Dallas might make sense.
Edit: kind of like how that turns out.
Poeltl/Bullock/Josh Green to Toronto
Bertans/McGee to SA
FVV/OG/Achiuwa to Dallas
San Antonio and Toronto divvy up all of Dallas’ draft picks. Would be a follow up move for Toronto but they’d have a fun team and some picks. I’d do Trent for Clarkson and have a mixed crew of Clarkson, Barnes, Siakam, Poeltl and a good draft choice this year.
I don't think Dallas has enough picks to satisfy everyone there.
I like the Hawks as a potential Siakam destination... I was thinking something like this?
John Collins to the Pacers
Daniel Theis, Onyeka Okongwu, AJ Griffin, 2023 Celtics 1st, 2023 Cavaliers 1st and 2029 Unprotected Hawks 1st to the Raptors
Pascal Siakam to the Hawks
Is Griffin and Okongwu enough of a headliner to overcome the lack of picks?
Yeah prob right on mine but I think yours may be the same lol. Not many outfits more pick poor than Atlanta.
How many individual pieces are better than AJ Griffin that would be offered for Siakam though? Is he a fit next to Zion? The Lakers pick is better, but would that make sense for New Orleans? What other young talent/early-ish pick would be available?
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Texas Chuck wrote:Mamba4Goat wrote:Texas Chuck wrote:
Time to figure out if this is your Twitter account.
That would make me the radio voice of the little Mavs.
Which would explain why you’re a Mavs fan. Everything is all starting to make sense now!
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Gobert conundrum
Rudy Gobert to Chicago
To Minnesota
Coby White
Nikola Vucevic
Goran Dragic
Edit -& 2 lottery protected firsts or 1 top 4 protected first
Or
Bare bones, aka not fully flushed out
Myles Turner to Minnesota
Rudy Gobert to Indy
(Wasn't quite sure how to make the money work in this one and would Minny need to add a 1st, sheesh?!)
Rudy Gobert to Chicago
To Minnesota
Coby White
Nikola Vucevic
Goran Dragic
Edit -& 2 lottery protected firsts or 1 top 4 protected first
Or
Bare bones, aka not fully flushed out
Myles Turner to Minnesota
Rudy Gobert to Indy
(Wasn't quite sure how to make the money work in this one and would Minny need to add a 1st, sheesh?!)
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That would be the GMs head. He can't move gobert because he won't get back what he spent. His only option to break them up is to trade Kat and get back some assets. But who wants KAT? Not many people probably?DoItALL9 wrote:Gobert conundrum
Rudy Gobert to Chicago
To Minnesota
Coby White
Nikola Vucevic
Goran Dragic
Or
Bare bones, aka not fully flushed out
Myles Turner to Minnesota
Rudy Gobert to Indy
(Wasn't quite sure how to make the money work in this one and would Minny need to add a 1st, sheesh?!)
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NYG wrote:I don't think any Knicks fans agree, but I would do...
OG Anunoby for Obi Toppin, Immanuel Quickley, Cam Reddish, 2023 Unprotected Knicks 1st, 2023 Top 10 Protected Mavs 1st and 2025 Unprotected Knicks 1st
You combine that with the deal above then follow it up with FVV and GTJ for Westbrook, '27 and '29 1sts and that's a nice young future for the Raptors in my opinion at least.
Knicks give up a haul for OG there. Raps run to the phone without Mavs FRP.
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zimpy27 wrote:NYG wrote:I don't think any Knicks fans agree, but I would do...
OG Anunoby for Obi Toppin, Immanuel Quickley, Cam Reddish, 2023 Unprotected Knicks 1st, 2023 Top 10 Protected Mavs 1st and 2025 Unprotected Knicks 1st
You combine that with the deal above then follow it up with FVV and GTJ for Westbrook, '27 and '29 1sts and that's a nice young future for the Raptors in my opinion at least.
Knicks give up a haul for OG there. Raps run to the phone without Mavs FRP.
Not really. the only decent value piece is 2025 1st here. the NYK and DAL picks are probably in the 20s and fillers are meh
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zimpy27 wrote:NYG wrote:I don't think any Knicks fans agree, but I would do...
OG Anunoby for Obi Toppin, Immanuel Quickley, Cam Reddish, 2023 Unprotected Knicks 1st, 2023 Top 10 Protected Mavs 1st and 2025 Unprotected Knicks 1st
You combine that with the deal above then follow it up with FVV and GTJ for Westbrook, '27 and '29 1sts and that's a nice young future for the Raptors in my opinion at least.
Knicks give up a haul for OG there. Raps run to the phone without Mavs FRP.
Think Pelicans first major offer goes: Choice of Herb or Murphy, '24 NOP 1st (top-4 prot.), '27 MIL 1st unprot., salary filler
Then, think furthest they go is: Herb and Murphy, '24 NOP 1st top-4 prot., '27 MIL 1st unprot., '25 NOP swap
Ultimately, think Pels would be willing to negotiate anything other than Dyson or the 2 LAL picks.
*Interesting 'coincidence?' Kira Lewis Jr. was sent to the G-league team right as they traveled to Toronto to play the 905 Raptors two times on a back to back. More coincidence? Ujiri was in attendance for the G-league game.
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MKWB wrote:zimpy27 wrote:NYG wrote:I don't think any Knicks fans agree, but I would do...
OG Anunoby for Obi Toppin, Immanuel Quickley, Cam Reddish, 2023 Unprotected Knicks 1st, 2023 Top 10 Protected Mavs 1st and 2025 Unprotected Knicks 1st
You combine that with the deal above then follow it up with FVV and GTJ for Westbrook, '27 and '29 1sts and that's a nice young future for the Raptors in my opinion at least.
Knicks give up a haul for OG there. Raps run to the phone without Mavs FRP.
Think Pelicans first major offer goes: Choice of Herb or Murphy, '24 NOP 1st (top-4 prot.), '27 MIL 1st unprot., salary filler
Then, think furthest they go is: Herb and Murphy, '24 NOP 1st top-4 prot., '27 MIL 1st unprot., '25 NOP swap
Ultimately, think Pels would be willing to negotiate anything other than Dyson or the 2 LAL picks.
*Interesting 'coincidence?' Kira Lewis Jr. was sent to the G-league team right as they traveled to Toronto to play the 905 Raptors two times on a back to back. More coincidence? Ujiri was in attendance for the G-league game.
I would take this over knicks offer
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Godaddycurse wrote:MKWB wrote:zimpy27 wrote:
Knicks give up a haul for OG there. Raps run to the phone without Mavs FRP.
Think Pelicans first major offer goes: Choice of Herb or Murphy, '24 NOP 1st (top-4 prot.), '27 MIL 1st unprot., salary filler
Then, think furthest they go is: Herb and Murphy, '24 NOP 1st top-4 prot., '27 MIL 1st unprot., '25 NOP swap
Ultimately, think Pels would be willing to negotiate anything other than Dyson or the 2 LAL picks.
*Interesting 'coincidence?' Kira Lewis Jr. was sent to the G-league team right as they traveled to Toronto to play the 905 Raptors two times on a back to back. More coincidence? Ujiri was in attendance for the G-league game.
I would take this over knicks offer
2 more weeks of speculating. This trade deadline season is really crawling by, huh? A lot of anticipation by a lot of teams.
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165bows wrote:NYG wrote:I'm starting to think the Raptors will overhaul a bit pre-deadline, but also get a ridiculous return and Raptors fans are closer than a lot of us think on what they get.
Maybe the Gobert package from Dallas might make sense.
Edit: kind of like how that turns out.
Poeltl/Bullock/Josh Green to Toronto
Bertans/McGee to SA
FVV/OG/Achiuwa to Dallas
San Antonio and Toronto divvy up all of Dallas’ draft picks. Would be a follow up move for Toronto but they’d have a fun team and some picks. I’d do Trent for Clarkson and have a mixed crew of Clarkson, Barnes, Siakam, Poeltl and a good draft choice this year.
I hate hate hate giving up all my draft picks for OG.
edit: And I hate it even more when I keep reading and hear that Dallas owes more value here? I mean, just no. We have absolutely lost our mind over the Bertans contract if we have reached the conclusion that Dallas owes more than:
Bullock
Green
3 unprotected 1sts
3 swaps
for
OG/FVV rental
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Heard on the Lowe Post from Bobby Marks that the extension rules that prevent OG from extending on a near-market deal may be adjusted in the new CBA in time to not let him hit the market. That tweaks his value up a bit.
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