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Gm 47: Nets (29-17) @ 76ers (30-16) Wed 1/25 7:30 PM

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Re: Gm 47: Nets (29-17) @ 76ers (30-16) Wed 1/25 7:30 PM 

Post#341 » by 76ciology » Thu Jan 26, 2023 3:31 pm

ProcessDoctor wrote:Fun game. Obviously a lot of emotion displayed by Joel in this one. Have been saying for years he needs to keep this in check. Would be a very interesting playoff series if we meet there.

Now onto the Denver game. Need to make a statement win here at home vs. The Joker.


Yeah its a fun game indeed! I think both teams tried hard to live up to the expectations of the fans. I love how when the game is over Jacque Vaughn came over to Doc and were laughing. Nice to see Sixers owners came to Ben, Seth expectedly went to Doc.
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Re: Gm 47: Nets (29-17) @ 76ers (30-16) Wed 1/25 7:30 PM 

Post#342 » by 76ciology » Thu Jan 26, 2023 3:42 pm

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76ciology wrote:In breaking the zone. I find we have a better shot with Tobi floating at the FT area. Some of James’ entry passes to Jojo at the elbow are horribly lazy.

Its good we encounter all these now and I hope we can try to figure it out now than panicking once we encounter this in the playoffs


I noticed it last night with Tobias. He got two good looks from the right around the free throw line last night. He hit one of them, and missed the other. I think we need to react faster once we recognize that teams are going zone against us. The thing with zone defense is the middle is always going to be open if the offense can find it. It's extremely hard to stay disciplined in a zone defense on both sides of the ball. The defenders will constantly give up the middle area, and the offense will panic and take bad shots. It makes for quite the chess match when this happens. We do struggle against it though. Mainly because it takes away the open threes. I think Tobias flashing to the middle and getting open looks was a step in the right direction last night.


I think Tobi should flash in the middle, like a high low play to Embiid where he might have a better passing angle to Biid at the paint.

I find the spacing is bad in breaking the 1-2-2 zone when Biid is at the elbow. Where Nets have 2 guys at the elbow trying to deny Biid the pass. And another two guys in the paint ready to help if he tries to take it inside.
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Re: Gm 47: Nets (29-17) @ 76ers (30-16) Wed 1/25 7:30 PM 

Post#343 » by Eyeamok » Thu Jan 26, 2023 3:48 pm

The most exciting play of the game for me was Maxey taking the step back 3. That was a thing of beauty.
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Re: Gm 47: Nets (29-17) @ 76ers (30-16) Wed 1/25 7:30 PM 

Post#344 » by GoSixersBro » Thu Jan 26, 2023 3:51 pm

Also I see you dishonest mf's voting on the poll after the game. Don't think I didn't take a screenshot before tip. :wavefinger:
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Re: Gm 47: Nets (29-17) @ 76ers (30-16) Wed 1/25 7:30 PM 

Post#345 » by Stanford » Thu Jan 26, 2023 3:57 pm

Eyeamok wrote:The most exciting play of the game for me was Maxey taking the step back 3. That was a thing of beauty.


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Re: Gm 47: Nets (29-17) @ 76ers (30-16) Wed 1/25 7:30 PM 

Post#346 » by M2J » Thu Jan 26, 2023 5:46 pm

Maxey has been tremendous lately. The style of offense where he took over in the first half, is the kind of offense from him I'd like to see during that stretch when they struggle offensively vs the zone and to close games.... Sometimes. One on one he's just so explosive with his threat to drive and shooting ability... Even made some nice passes.

I was proud of James for just making 3 great plays to break them out of that funk.

On the point if mismatches... Tobias and Watanabe was another one that could've been exploited and was fruitful at times.

Joel is frustrating to watch when he is missing layups, but also forcing it in the low post. Though, I must say without question it was still fruitful... The other players took advantage of the Nets trying to take Joel out of the game, and ultimately they scored 137 regulation time points. If their defense was better, they may score 150.

Nets have the size/length and Athleticism to switch the pick and roll/pop and there not be a tremendous mismatch when he faces up away from the basket. Clax, Ben, and Durant can affect his dribbling (shouldn't do that against them much)... and contest a shot. Forcing it in the paint and he sees multiple bodies. But he really wasn't that bad. 6 for 18... Took maybe 3 bail out 3s at the end of the clock including a full court heave.... Blew a number of layups. But only had 2 turnovers. The Nets turned it into an Iso heavy game with the switches, and the perimeter players did great.

Defense should have been better
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Re: Gm 47: Nets (29-17) @ 76ers (30-16) Wed 1/25 7:30 PM 

Post#347 » by 76ciology » Thu Jan 26, 2023 6:33 pm

Maxey playing with the bench where he can go mamba mentality from the first second and not play like Derek Fisher with the starting unit, is better for him.
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Post#348 » by Jailblazers7 » Thu Jan 26, 2023 7:31 pm

76ciology wrote:Maxey playing with the bench where he can go mamba mentality from the first second and not play like Derek Fisher with the starting unit, is better for him.


Oh god, please don’t infect Maxey with the disease of Mamba Mentality. Him starting to say that phrase might be the only thing he can do to make me dislike him.
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Re: Gm 47: Nets (29-17) @ 76ers (30-16) Wed 1/25 7:30 PM 

Post#349 » by Jay555 » Thu Jan 26, 2023 10:32 pm

Did not watch the game. Only got to watch it today and here are my thoughts.

1. Nets are a problem for us matchup wise and we should try to avoid them before the ECF. (If we can get that far..) I like KD and have been following the Nets often times. The reason why Nets match up well against us is because of their switching defense.

2. Biid got into his own head. He needs to calm down and just play his game. If Biid was right, this game would not have been close. I expect him to be much better in their next meetings vs Nets as he's now got the emotional bits out of his system hopefully.

3. Harrell is unplayable in the playoffs. He can give us good regular season mins but Paul Reed would probably see more mins in the playoffs due to his D. This begs the question. If we do not play Paul Reed, can we please get a backup C who's servicable? That should be a priority for Morey.

4. When we play the Nets, please let Harden/Maxey go one on one on Curry the moment he's on the floor. Stop feeding Embiid and worrying about getting him looks. Just attack Curry relenlessly. Similarly, let Harris switch onto Joe Harris whenever he's on the floor. (remember the first meeting Harris owned Harris?). This is particularly important when it comes to the playoffs as that's a weakness we can take advantage of.

5. Nets shot ridiculously and still lost. I do not think they can shoot light outs next time even with KD back. It will always be a fun matchup regardless.


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Re: Gm 47: Nets (29-17) @ 76ers (30-16) Wed 1/25 7:30 PM 

Post#350 » by Negrodamus » Thu Jan 26, 2023 10:49 pm

Jay555 wrote:Did not watch the game. Only got to watch it today and here are my thoughts.

1. Nets are a problem for us matchup wise and we should try to avoid them before the ECF. (If we can get that far..) I like KD and have been following the Nets often times. The reason why Nets match up well against us is because of their switching defense.

2. Biid got into his own head. He needs to calm down and just play his game. If Biid was right, this game would not have been close. I expect him to be much better in their next meetings vs Nets as he's now got the emotional bits out of his system hopefully.

3. Harrell is unplayable in the playoffs. He can give us good regular season mins but Paul Reed would probably see more mins in the playoffs due to his D. This begs the question. If we do not play Paul Reed, can we please get a backup C who's servicable? That should be a priority for Morey.

4. When we play the Nets, please let Harden/Maxey go one on one on Curry the moment he's on the floor. Stop feeding Embiid and worrying about getting him looks. Just attack Curry relenlessly. Similarly, let Harris switch onto Joe Harris whenever he's on the floor. (remember the first meeting Harris owned Harris?). This is particularly important when it comes to the playoffs as that's a weakness we can take advantage of.

5. Nets shot ridiculously and still lost. I do not think they can shoot light outs next time even with KD back. It will always be a fun matchup regardless.


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Good points, especially the Harden/Maxey (and even Tobias) bit. I feel like the attention is pulled towards Embiid and we have 3 other guys who are in mismatches against a woefully bad defensive team. Lets just cook them to hell with those three and have Embiid be the decoy.

Doc needs to start playing Paul Reed again. He's too important to put on the back burner for Harrell. Harrell absolutely stinks.
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Re: Gm 47: Nets (29-17) @ 76ers (30-16) Wed 1/25 7:30 PM 

Post#351 » by Jailblazers7 » Thu Jan 26, 2023 11:07 pm

Problem is getting Embiid onboard with running isos for everyone but him. But that’s a great point that the mismatches against Brooklyn are all on the perimeter.
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Re: Gm 47: Nets (29-17) @ 76ers (30-16) Wed 1/25 7:30 PM 

Post#352 » by Jay555 » Thu Jan 26, 2023 11:26 pm

Jailblazers7 wrote:Problem is getting Embiid onboard with running isos for everyone but him. But that’s a great point that the mismatches against Brooklyn are all on the perimeter.



https://official.nba.com/l2m/L2MReport.html?gameId=0022200721%0d


Again. This last 2 min report just confirms my point. Harden’s last 3pt attempt was fouled by Curry and should have been 3 free throws. That means both times when Harden attacked Curry yielded good result if the sec one was called right. Anyways..
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Re: Gm 47: Nets (29-17) @ 76ers (30-16) Wed 1/25 7:30 PM 

Post#353 » by Bum Adebayo » Fri Jan 27, 2023 1:26 am

Jailblazers7 wrote:Problem is getting Embiid onboard with running isos for everyone but him. But that’s a great point that the mismatches against Brooklyn are all on the perimeter.


He is by far our best player, of course he should not be ok with such a bad idea.
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Re: Gm 47: Nets (29-17) @ 76ers (30-16) Wed 1/25 7:30 PM 

Post#354 » by 76ciology » Fri Jan 27, 2023 3:36 am

Jay555 wrote:Did not watch the game. Only got to watch it today and here are my thoughts.

1. Nets are a problem for us matchup wise and we should try to avoid them before the ECF. (If we can get that far..) I like KD and have been following the Nets often times. The reason why Nets match up well against us is because of their switching defense.

2. Biid got into his own head. He needs to calm down and just play his game. If Biid was right, this game would not have been close. I expect him to be much better in their next meetings vs Nets as he's now got the emotional bits out of his system hopefully.

3. Harrell is unplayable in the playoffs. He can give us good regular season mins but Paul Reed would probably see more mins in the playoffs due to his D. This begs the question. If we do not play Paul Reed, can we please get a backup C who's servicable? That should be a priority for Morey.

4. When we play the Nets, please let Harden/Maxey go one on one on Curry the moment he's on the floor. Stop feeding Embiid and worrying about getting him looks. Just attack Curry relenlessly. Similarly, let Harris switch onto Joe Harris whenever he's on the floor. (remember the first meeting Harris owned Harris?). This is particularly important when it comes to the playoffs as that's a weakness we can take advantage of.

5. Nets shot ridiculously and still lost. I do not think they can shoot light outs next time even with KD back. It will always be a fun matchup regardless.


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I agree with a lot with what you said.

Regarding Nets scoring that good. Well, we could play better defense BUT we were still able to beat then right? That speaks of how good we are on offense.
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Re: Gm 47: Nets (29-17) @ 76ers (30-16) Wed 1/25 7:30 PM 

Post#355 » by HardenGoat » Fri Jan 27, 2023 4:12 am

Great post Jay! Everything spot on
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Post#356 » by 76ciology » Fri Jan 27, 2023 5:47 am

Extra possessions, 3PTM and FTM > great FG%
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Re: Gm 47: Nets (29-17) @ 76ers (30-16) Wed 1/25 7:30 PM 

Post#357 » by Jay555 » Fri Jan 27, 2023 6:28 am

76ciology wrote:Extra possessions, 3PTM and FTM > great FG%


which leads to the rebounding issues that we always have. Nets are just worse rebounding wise.
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Post#358 » by rocketsfan100 » Fri Jan 27, 2023 6:45 am

Only one game behind the Celtics. Will face the Celtics twice in the next month
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Post#359 » by M2J » Fri Jan 27, 2023 8:28 am

Jailblazers7 wrote:Problem is getting Embiid onboard with running isos for everyone but him. But that’s a great point that the mismatches against Brooklyn are all on the perimeter.


Joel is the biggest mismatch vs Brooklyn. You gotta establish it to some degree, but Joel can't fully force the issue when they game plan vs him. But establishing him, only makes it easier for the perimeter players. I do agree that it would need to be exploited more. But 137 points in regulation is 137 points in regulation.

I think it was jarring to see them not go pick and roll heavy... and it looked awkward. But ultimately the switch heavy defense if the Nets didn't work as you would expect Philly's offensive talent to win out and win matchups
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Post#360 » by phillynative » Fri Jan 27, 2023 10:14 am

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Jay555 wrote:Did not watch the game. Only got to watch it today and here are my thoughts.

1. Nets are a problem for us matchup wise and we should try to avoid them before the ECF. (If we can get that far..) I like KD and have been following the Nets often times. The reason why Nets match up well against us is because of their switching defense.

2. Biid got into his own head. He needs to calm down and just play his game. If Biid was right, this game would not have been close. I expect him to be much better in their next meetings vs Nets as he's now got the emotional bits out of his system hopefully.

3. Harrell is unplayable in the playoffs. He can give us good regular season mins but Paul Reed would probably see more mins in the playoffs due to his D. This begs the question. If we do not play Paul Reed, can we please get a backup C who's servicable? That should be a priority for Morey.

4. When we play the Nets, please let Harden/Maxey go one on one on Curry the moment he's on the floor. Stop feeding Embiid and worrying about getting him looks. Just attack Curry relenlessly. Similarly, let Harris switch onto Joe Harris whenever he's on the floor. (remember the first meeting Harris owned Harris?). This is particularly important when it comes to the playoffs as that's a weakness we can take advantage of.

5. Nets shot ridiculously and still lost. I do not think they can shoot light outs next time even with KD back. It will always be a fun matchup regardless.


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I agree with a lot with what you said.

Regarding Nets scoring that good. Well, we could play better defense BUT we were still able to beat then right? That speaks of how good we are on offense.


Yes without KD . Healthy KD is basically unguardable don't know if we can go toe to toe with a healthy KD and Kyrie down the stretch in a close game without at least playing enough defense to prevent the role guys from easy and open baskets.

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