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Post#281 » by ryan in Maine » Wed Jan 25, 2023 11:25 pm

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ryan in Maine wrote:I think missing Danilo was a low-key a pretty big deal. Unless something obvious opens up I wouldn't even think about moving him.

That said, what would Mazz give him for minutes? Playoffs is a tough time to integrate a guy in general.

Gallinari might get back some games before the End of the Regular Season.
He'd need that to get into some semblance of NBA Shape.

But, I think at this point, all we'd need from him is 10 or so mins a game, in the Playoffs?

Yep you're right. If spirit can get you there, he'll get there. It would be great to see him 10 games 10 minutes. In my pre-injury mind I'm thinking we need him for 20 mins. I was being dismissive of the value he would provide in limited mins.

But we're winning the chip this season and I expect Danilo to help us get to The Finals next season.
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Post#282 » by playa-hater » Wed Jan 25, 2023 11:43 pm

Am I wrong to think that if gallo comes back he should get at least one month of playing time before playoffs, otherwise I'm not so sure I want to gamble a rotation spot for someone who may be massively rusty..
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Post#283 » by shackles10 » Thu Jan 26, 2023 1:19 am

A month would be ideal but are we good enough to get him a half dozen games toward the end and still be working him in round 1? Basically if it takes him round 1 to become a true asset can we afford it or does that make it too late for him to become useful? Of course matchups matter, and we don’t know what they’ll be, but let’s just assume we’re 1 seed and we’re going against the possible 8 seeds as of todays standings… can we afford to work him in against the likes of NY, ATL, Indiana, Chicago?
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Post#285 » by 165bows » Thu Jan 26, 2023 1:07 pm

shackles10 wrote:A month would be ideal but are we good enough to get him a half dozen games toward the end and still be working him in round 1? Basically if it takes him round 1 to become a true asset can we afford it or does that make it too late for him to become useful? Of course matchups matter, and we don’t know what they’ll be, but let’s just assume we’re 1 seed and we’re going against the possible 8 seeds as of todays standings… can we afford to work him in against the likes of NY, ATL, Indiana, Chicago?

I think he'll be fine if he can play. Just needs to still be tall and hit threes from three feet behind the line for two 6 minute stints.

Dude's a pro, he will be able to wing it I'm confidant as long as he's physically there.
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Post#286 » by ballup » Thu Jan 26, 2023 1:34 pm

ACLs take a year to get back onto the court, let alone regain competitive form.

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Post#287 » by 31to6 » Thu Jan 26, 2023 2:05 pm

ryan in Maine wrote:I think missing Danilo was a low-key a pretty big deal. Unless something obvious opens up I wouldn't even think about moving him.

That said, what would Mazz give him for minutes? Playoffs is a tough time to integrate a guy in general.


Was he really going to be a slow/skinny 5? Playing next to Grant, maybe?

The obvious role available is Hauser’s if he can’t fill it. But Gallo hasn’t played the 3 in ages, and coming off an ACL tear seems unlikely to.

I guess I should look up how many of Hauser’s minutes have been categorized as SF vs PF.
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Post#288 » by shackles10 » Thu Jan 26, 2023 4:21 pm

Even if Hauser is sf and Tatum is pf in bench lineups it could easily have been Tatum slides down to sf and Gallo is at pf. I think he was going to be in that bench shooter role while also maybe eating some of Grants minutes some nights and hopefully Al’s on others. The one thing I worry is even if healthy would he have been picked on like Hauser is? Doesn’t matter if Hauser is technically a 2,3,4 he gets switched a lot and picked on. He does ok most of the time, but would pre-injury Gallo be able to even keep up the way Hauser has? Post-injury Gallo causes us to not be a switching team during his minutes as much?
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Post#289 » by Hal14 » Thu Jan 26, 2023 4:44 pm

ballup wrote:ACLs take a year to get back onto the court, let alone regain competitive form.

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Dinwiddie came back to NBA game action after 10 months. Loui Williams came back after 9 months. Ingles came back after 10 months. JJ Hickson came back after 7 months. Nate Robinson came back after 9. Danny Green is set to return to Grizzlies lineup on Feb 1, 8 months after his surgery..
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Post#290 » by Hal14 » Thu Jan 26, 2023 4:51 pm

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ryan in Maine wrote:I think missing Danilo was a low-key a pretty big deal. Unless something obvious opens up I wouldn't even think about moving him.

That said, what would Mazz give him for minutes? Playoffs is a tough time to integrate a guy in general.


Was he really going to be a slow/skinny 5? Playing next to Grant, maybe?

The obvious role available is Hauser’s if he can’t fill it. But Gallo hasn’t played the 3 in ages, and coming off an ACL tear seems unlikely to.

I guess I should look up how many of Hauser’s minutes have been categorized as SF vs PF.

It's the era of positionless basketball. Skillsets matter more than positions. Gallo was going to give us something we've never really had before. a 6'10" dude who is REALLY good at knocking down shots, creating shots off the dribble for himself (low post, mid post, attacking from perimeter) while being able to make slick passes from all of those spots too. A guy with size who can dribble/pass/shoot.
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Post#291 » by Celts17Pride » Thu Jan 26, 2023 7:00 pm

Gallo was pretty bad when he came back from his ACL injury at the age of 26. I wouldn't expect much from Gallo this year or next
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Post#292 » by Homerclease » Thu Jan 26, 2023 7:04 pm

Celts17Pride wrote:Gallo was pretty bad when he came back from his ACL injury at the age of 26. I wouldn't expect much from Gallo this year or next

This. His lateral agility was deteriorating rapidly before this injury. He’s got a long, long road to ever see meaningful nba minutes ever again
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Post#293 » by ThePigeon » Thu Jan 26, 2023 7:16 pm

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Celts17Pride wrote:Gallo was pretty bad when he came back from his ACL injury at the age of 26. I wouldn't expect much from Gallo this year or next

This. His lateral agility was deteriorating rapidly before this injury. He’s got a long, long road to ever see meaningful nba minutes ever again


Ingles just came back and looks fine. He wasn't the best athlete before the injury but he plays
Gallo will be fine. We don't expect him to save the country or be Stromile Swift. Hit the 3 at a good rate, maybe do some postups, defend at an acceptable level (Hauser/Blake level) for 10 - 15 minutes against mainly second units
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Post#294 » by Celts17Pride » Thu Jan 26, 2023 7:31 pm

However, as Himmelsbach observes, even if Gallinari’s recovery process moves quickly, the Celtics would likely be reluctant to bring him back in such a “high-intensity, high-stakes” environment when he hasn’t played for the entire season. The 34-year-old recognizes that and is prepared to accept the possibility of being sidelined until the fall, but he doesn’t want to give up hope on this season quite yet.

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Post#295 » by 31to6 » Thu Jan 26, 2023 10:06 pm

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ryan in Maine wrote:I think missing Danilo was a low-key a pretty big deal. Unless something obvious opens up I wouldn't even think about moving him.

That said, what would Mazz give him for minutes? Playoffs is a tough time to integrate a guy in general.


Was he really going to be a slow/skinny 5? Playing next to Grant, maybe?

The obvious role available is Hauser’s if he can’t fill it. But Gallo hasn’t played the 3 in ages, and coming off an ACL tear seems unlikely to.

I guess I should look up how many of Hauser’s minutes have been categorized as SF vs PF.

It's the era of positionless basketball. Skillsets matter more than positions. Gallo was going to give us something we've never really had before. a 6'10" dude who is REALLY good at knocking down shots, creating shots off the dribble for himself (low post, mid post, attacking from perimeter) while being able to make slick passes from all of those spots too. A guy with size who can dribble/pass/shoot.


Offense is fun but I think defense first when I think of positions. You are who you guard.
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Post#296 » by ballup » Thu Jan 26, 2023 10:13 pm

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ballup wrote:ACLs take a year to get back onto the court, let alone regain competitive form.

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Dinwiddie came back to NBA game action after 10 months. Loui Williams came back after 9 months. Ingles came back after 10 months. JJ Hickson came back after 7 months. Nate Robinson came back after 9. Danny Green is set to return to Grizzlies lineup on Feb 1, 8 months after his surgery..

Those are all cases of players coming back earlier than expected. Compare that to the list of players, within that timeframe, who took at least a year: Jamal Murray, Thomas Bryant, Fultz, Issac, Cousins, Dejounte Murray, Porzingis, Brandon Knight, Jabari Parker, Jarret Jack, Dante Exum. Heck, Gallo took 20 months last time he tore his acl. He's much older than most of these guys too.


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Post#297 » by ryan in Maine » Thu Jan 26, 2023 10:42 pm

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Was he really going to be a slow/skinny 5? Playing next to Grant, maybe?

The obvious role available is Hauser’s if he can’t fill it. But Gallo hasn’t played the 3 in ages, and coming off an ACL tear seems unlikely to.

I guess I should look up how many of Hauser’s minutes have been categorized as SF vs PF.

It's the era of positionless basketball. Skillsets matter more than positions. Gallo was going to give us something we've never really had before. a 6'10" dude who is REALLY good at knocking down shots, creating shots off the dribble for himself (low post, mid post, attacking from perimeter) while being able to make slick passes from all of those spots too. A guy with size who can dribble/pass/shoot.


Offense is fun but I think defense first when I think of positions. You are who you guard.

Prob what it comes down to on this team

I had Danilo at the 2 in some lineups I concocted after the trade, but after watching highlights from last season, it'd be a big ask. Today's NBA is fast.

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I think we brought him in to preserve Al without slowing down the offense. It was a pure o over d decision.
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Post#298 » by Hal14 » Thu Jan 26, 2023 10:48 pm

ballup wrote:
Hal14 wrote:
ballup wrote:ACLs take a year to get back onto the court, let alone regain competitive form.

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Dinwiddie came back to NBA game action after 10 months. Loui Williams came back after 9 months. Ingles came back after 10 months. JJ Hickson came back after 7 months. Nate Robinson came back after 9. Danny Green is set to return to Grizzlies lineup on Feb 1, 8 months after his surgery..

Those are all cases of players coming back earlier than expected. Compare that to the list of players, within that timeframe, who took at least a year: Jamal Murray, Thomas Bryant, Fultz, Issac, Cousins, Dejounte Murray, Porzingis, Brandon Knight, Jabari Parker, Jarret Jack, Dante Exum. Heck, Gallo took 20 months last time he tore his acl. He's much older than most of these guys too.


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That's only because doctors tried to accelerate his recovery with a less-intrusive procedure in which the ACL was not reconstructed. But about nine months after that, he required a full surgery and returned at the start of the 2014-15 season about 10 months later."

Source: https://www.bostonglobe.com/2023/01/25/sports/celtics-danilo-gallinari-has-motivation-comeback-trail-i-want-play-playoffs/

Danny Green and Joe Ingles were old too. Yet Green is returning to the lineup for the Grizzlies 8 months after surgery...10 months for Ingles.

So it seems like guys are coming back sooner these days with the advancements in modern sports medicine. Plus, it seems like perhaps older players are coming back sooner because they know their career is almost over anyways so they have less to risk by coming back too soon and getting re-injured. A 23 year old kid is going to be VERY careful and come back extra slowly since they have an entire career still ahead of themselves that is at risk if they come back too quickly..

Honestly, it baffles me that there's so many people on here who apparently are so gung ho about Gallinari not playing this year. Like it makes them so mad for some reason if anyone thinks there's a chance he could return.. I swear, some of ya'll are really Nets or Lakers fans undercover lol.
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Post#299 » by ballup » Fri Jan 27, 2023 4:31 am

Hal14 wrote:
ballup wrote:
Hal14 wrote:Dinwiddie came back to NBA game action after 10 months. Loui Williams came back after 9 months. Ingles came back after 10 months. JJ Hickson came back after 7 months. Nate Robinson came back after 9. Danny Green is set to return to Grizzlies lineup on Feb 1, 8 months after his surgery..

Those are all cases of players coming back earlier than expected. Compare that to the list of players, within that timeframe, who took at least a year: Jamal Murray, Thomas Bryant, Fultz, Issac, Cousins, Dejounte Murray, Porzingis, Brandon Knight, Jabari Parker, Jarret Jack, Dante Exum. Heck, Gallo took 20 months last time he tore his acl. He's much older than most of these guys too.


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That's only because doctors tried to accelerate his recovery with a less-intrusive procedure in which the ACL was not reconstructed. But about nine months after that, he required a full surgery and returned at the start of the 2014-15 season about 10 months later."

Source: https://www.bostonglobe.com/2023/01/25/sports/celtics-danilo-gallinari-has-motivation-comeback-trail-i-want-play-playoffs/

Danny Green and Joe Ingles were old too. Yet Green is returning to the lineup for the Grizzlies 8 months after surgery...10 months for Ingles.

Honestly, it baffles me that there's so many people on here who apparently are so gung ho about Gallinari not playing this year. Like it makes them so mad for some reason if anyone thinks there's a chance he could return.. I swear, some of ya'll are really Nets or Lakers fans undercover lol.

Even if you wanted to put a 9 month timeline, that's May, smack dab in the playoffs. People are just being real and not trying to force a guy to maim themselves so they can limp onto the floor.
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Post#300 » by bucknersrevenge » Fri Jan 27, 2023 12:52 pm

ballup wrote:
Hal14 wrote:
ballup wrote:Those are all cases of players coming back earlier than expected. Compare that to the list of players, within that timeframe, who took at least a year: Jamal Murray, Thomas Bryant, Fultz, Issac, Cousins, Dejounte Murray, Porzingis, Brandon Knight, Jabari Parker, Jarret Jack, Dante Exum. Heck, Gallo took 20 months last time he tore his acl. He's much older than most of these guys too.


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That's only because doctors tried to accelerate his recovery with a less-intrusive procedure in which the ACL was not reconstructed. But about nine months after that, he required a full surgery and returned at the start of the 2014-15 season about 10 months later."

Source: https://www.bostonglobe.com/2023/01/25/sports/celtics-danilo-gallinari-has-motivation-comeback-trail-i-want-play-playoffs/

Danny Green and Joe Ingles were old too. Yet Green is returning to the lineup for the Grizzlies 8 months after surgery...10 months for Ingles.

Honestly, it baffles me that there's so many people on here who apparently are so gung ho about Gallinari not playing this year. Like it makes them so mad for some reason if anyone thinks there's a chance he could return.. I swear, some of ya'll are really Nets or Lakers fans undercover lol.

Even if you wanted to put a 9 month timeline, that's May, smack dab in the playoffs. People are just being real and not trying to force a guy to maim themselves so they can limp onto the floor.


Can look look at any of his Tweets and think that anyone is actually forcing him? Truth is, we could use him. Now whether he can be productive is to be determined. But the guy is working hard. He travels with the team. He hangs out and roots for them from the sidelines. Nobody is forcing him to do that.
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