Trade deadline thread

[Menace2Sobriety]

Neither do the Lakers. He's not mediocre.

I see him as a reclamation young guy, like a Bagley tier.

He'll probably get paid about the same as well.

The real reason the Wizards traded him away is because he's a FA this summer and they are planning on spending everything to keep Kuzma and Porzingas. RUI is solid and scoring 13 PPG in 24 MPG he's likely at a level slightly above Bagley. I don't think he gets more than MLE $$$, but its a similar situation of trying to get some value (2nd round picks) in order to not lose the player for nothing.

If he had one more year of a cheap rookie scale deal I'm sure Washington would have kept him.

Rui is probably a similar level player to a Diallo, Bagley, etc.... at this point at 24 he's really in a spot where he needs to take a decent step forward soon or he's going to be a career bench guy.

Correct. The Bagley comparison impact wise is accurate. He’ll give you a few really nice games, then lay an egg for a few. I still have higher hopes for Bagley tho…

But once again, Washington makes the wrong decision at every turn. They’ll need to max Kuzma to keep him - likely twice the amount of Rui’s next contract. Kyle’s a better player mind you, but by how much? Do you really max out your #3 who’s demonstrably average?

He is from Flint so I do root for him and seems a decent guy.

[Canadafan]

If you had to pick a team where Bojan just fits in seamlessly, it would have to be the Cavs. A shooter like him would open things up so much for garland and Mitchell. Allen and Mobley cover him defensively.
Okoro and Levert have platooned as their SF. Cavs unfortunately don't have much to give us though

[Pharaoh]

If you had to pick a team where Bojan just fits in seamlessly, it would have to be the Cavs. A shooter like him would open things up so much for garland and Mitchell. Allen and Mobley cover him defensively.
Okoro and Levert have platooned as their SF. Cavs unfortunately don't have much to give us though

LeVert works for salary matching and he's expiring.

Would the Cavs prefer the longer contract?

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[Spider156]

If you had to pick a team where Bojan just fits in seamlessly, it would have to be the Cavs. A shooter like him would open things up so much for garland and Mitchell. Allen and Mobley cover him defensively.
Okoro and Levert have platooned as their SF. Cavs unfortunately don't have much to give us though

Memphis in my opinion.

[Pharaoh]

If you had to pick a team where Bojan just fits in seamlessly, it would have to be the Cavs. A shooter like him would open things up so much for garland and Mitchell. Allen and Mobley cover him defensively.
Okoro and Levert have platooned as their SF. Cavs unfortunately don't have much to give us though

Memphis in my opinion.

Grizz don't apeqr to have much they'd want to part with but Green + Williams does match salary wise.

Not sure what Draft compensation they have to give though

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[buzzkilloton]

Edwards put out a article yesterday where he talked to the other teams Edwards like media member. Like everything we got back for BB was a pile of crap. The best offer was Levert who Edwards said he thinks were going to go after in free agency yuck.

I feel like were just going to hold BB until the wheels fall off at this point.

[MotownMadness]

We don't really have the time to develop and pay a mediocre young guy like Rui. I just want more of for sure things with our money next year.

That's what we've been doing for the 3rd year. Trying to develop mediocre young guys. So my idea was, why not add one more.

I get it, I'm just kinda sick of adding these type of guys right as they're entering FA. We need some proven players all over at this point. I don't even care if they are in their 30's (lol).

[MotownMadness]

Edwards put out a article yesterday where he talked to the other teams Edwards like media member. Like everything we got back for BB was a pile of crap. The best offer was Levert who Edwards said he thinks were going to go after in free agency yuck.

I feel like were just going to hold BB until the wheels fall off at this point.

Then we keep him for now. What stat i don't see players in offense cheating in OBPM. I've never seen a bad offensive player cheat it past about 2.0.

Bogs and Burks both over over 3.0, 5.0 is usually All-Star territory and 7.0 plus are your stars.

DBPM is pretty hard to gauge though cause even a guy like Drummond cant score good there through rebounding.

[theBigLip]

The only way I see us getting any significant asset back is combining our trade assets. BB or Burks or Noel don't get us much, but putting 2 or 3 of them together, that becomes quite a package for a playoff team in need of depth, shooting and a defensive big. I still that that all 3 of them for Westbrook and at least one of the Lakers picks unprotected (or both slightly protected) is fair for both sides.

[Drwho17]

I think the league is pretty wide open this year, Bogdanovic could be a difference maker for some of these teams, problem is most of them don't have what the Pistons want. So I think the Pistons will just hold on to him, until the offseason.

[mattao313]

It ain't no way we could get kuminga for bojan+?

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[NYPiston]

If you had to pick a team where Bojan just fits in seamlessly, it would have to be the Cavs. A shooter like him would open things up so much for garland and Mitchell. Allen and Mobley cover him defensively.
Okoro and Levert have platooned as their SF. Cavs unfortunately don't have much to give us though

Agreed, I'd also put Dallas in that conversation. A deadly long range shooter alongside an elite playmaker in Luka, big time.
The thing with Bojan is that he'll have to tweak his game to fit in on a contender because he's the primary scorer and is handling the ball more than he probably should here basically out of necessity with Cade out for the season. He needs to re-learn how to play off of a star in his new environment, not try to be the star himself.

[Canadafan]

https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/raptors-og-anunoby-reportedly-wants-out-of-toronto-024034964.html

Love OG. He would be fantastic on our team.

[bstein14]

https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/raptors-og-anunoby-reportedly-wants-out-of-toronto-024034964.html

Love OG. He would be fantastic on our team.

Like OG as well, but we're not in a position to trade away future draft picks. I doubt they'd consider something like Bey + Bojan + 2nd rounders for him.

Maybe they'd roll with Ivey/Bey but at that point its likely too high of a price for us to pay considering OG will for sure be playing for a contract next season and then opting out and signing at likely $30+ million per year with no guarantee he'd stay with us.

[theBigLip]

https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/raptors-og-anunoby-reportedly-wants-out-of-toronto-024034964.html

Love OG. He would be fantastic on our team.

Like OG as well, but we're not in a position to trade away future draft picks. I doubt they'd consider something like Bey + Bojan + 2nd rounders for him.

Maybe they'd roll with Ivey/Bey but at that point its likely too high of a price for us to pay considering OG will for sure be playing for a contract next season and then opting out and signing at likely $30+ million per year with no guarantee he'd stay with us.

Wait for him to be a FA in 1.5 years.

[coolness]

I just posted this in a DET/LAL thread on the trade board and I'm very proud. I could see LAL greatly improving with it.

FINAL EDIT: (you would think)
Hayes, Burks, Bojan, Livers, Bagley
for
The GOAT and those two sweet, sweet 1st's. And expiring bits and pieces.

EDIT: the GOAT is GOATbrook not Lebron lol.

EDIT: I would throw in our 3 2nd's. I think that's all we have.

[Pharaoh]

I just posted this in a DET/LAL thread on the trade board and I'm very proud. I could see LAL greatly improving with it.

FINAL EDIT: (you would think)
Hayes, Burks, Bojan, Livers, Bagley
for
The GOAT and those two sweet, sweet 1st's. And expiring bits and pieces.

EDIT: the GOAT is GOATbrook not Lebron lol.

EDIT: I would throw in our 3 2nd's. I think that's all we have.

Not a fan of adding Westbrook even if we get 2 unprotected LAL picks down the road.

We should be aiming to ascend next season and there's not a lot of real difference makers in free agency so creating extra cap space isn't a goal of mine

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[zeebneeb]

I just posted this in a DET/LAL thread on the trade board and I'm very proud. I could see LAL greatly improving with it.

FINAL EDIT: (you would think)
Hayes, Burks, Bojan, Livers, Bagley
for
The GOAT and those two sweet, sweet 1st's. And expiring bits and pieces.

EDIT: the GOAT is GOATbrook not Lebron lol.

EDIT: I would throw in our 3 2nd's. I think that's all we have.

Not a fan of adding Westbrook even if we get 2 unprotected LAL picks down the road.

We should be aiming to ascend next season and there's not a lot of real difference makers in free agency so creating extra cap space isn't a goal of mine

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I'm not adding Hayes, Livers, and Bagley for two picks, that's way to much, but I'd trade Bojan, Burks, Bagley, Livers for those two picks for sure.

Aiming to ascend? I don't see how that's possible keeping those players, so Weaver may as well cough up for picks in the meantime, because as you said, free agency is slim pickings. It's again going to come down to the pick. If the Pistons had ended up with Banchero, well, things would be really different right now. I feel the exact same way about it this year. If the Pistons end up with VW, game on. If they pick a 4th guard, in 4 years, or end up with the 5th pick again, I don't see anything but a marginal improvement, if any at all.

Pistons are in a pickle right now. They desperately need defense at the wing position, and I don't see how that gets fixed, unless there is some deal that happens and the Pistons land one of those guys the whole league is after.

Cade
Whatever/Hayes/Ivey
Herb/Murphy/OG
VW
Duren

Now your talking. The odds of that happening are lower then the 14% chance we got at Vic.

Reality?

Cade
Ivey
Bojan/Bey/5th pick
Stewart
Duren

Yeah. Ascension is off the table, unless Cade is the man again after the surgery, and even then, its just a marginal play-in team.

I want more picks, for more chances at landing actual NBA talent, and difference makers. The current team is crapola.

[Pharaoh]

I just posted this in a DET/LAL thread on the trade board and I'm very proud. I could see LAL greatly improving with it.

FINAL EDIT: (you would think)
Hayes, Burks, Bojan, Livers, Bagley
for
The GOAT and those two sweet, sweet 1st's. And expiring bits and pieces.

EDIT: the GOAT is GOATbrook not Lebron lol.

EDIT: I would throw in our 3 2nd's. I think that's all we have.

Not a fan of adding Westbrook even if we get 2 unprotected LAL picks down the road.

We should be aiming to ascend next season and there's not a lot of real difference makers in free agency so creating extra cap space isn't a goal of mine

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I'm not adding Hayes, Livers, and Bagley for two picks, that's way to much, but I'd trade Bojan, Burks, Bagley, Livers for those two picks for sure.

Aiming to ascend? I don't see how that's possible keeping those players, so Weaver may as well cough up for picks in the meantime, because as you said, free agency is slim pickings. It's again going to come down to the pick. If the Pistons had ended up with Banchero, well, things would be really different right now. I feel the exact same way about it this year. If the Pistons end up with VW, game on. If they pick a 4th guard, in 4 years, or end up with the 5th pick again, I don't see anything but a marginal improvement, if any at all.

Pistons are in a pickle right now. They desperately need defense at the wing position, and I don't see how that gets fixed, unless there is some deal that happens and the Pistons land one of those guys the whole league is after.

Cade
Whatever/Hayes/Ivey
Herb/Murphy/OG
VW
Duren

Now your talking. The odds of that happening are lower then the 14% chance we got at Vic.

Reality?

Cade
Ivey
Bojan/Bey/5th pick
Stewart
Duren

Yeah. Ascension is off the table, unless Cade is the man again after the surgery, and even then, its just a marginal play-in team.

I want more picks, for more chances at landing actual NBA talent, and difference makers. The current team is crapola.

Any cap experts in here?

Assuming we pony up for 1 of these dudes:

PJ Washington
Grant Williams
Cam Johnson
Jalen McDaniels

Would there we be "enough" remaining cap space to add one of these dudes?

Darius Bazley
Max Strus
Gabe Vincent

Assuming there is they might actually seriously help the entire rotation gel and play as "more than the sum of their parts"

And then there's the Lotto pick, which hopefully is Wemby but if not 1 or 2 it seems there's enough wings to choose from.

Also a interesting FA that seems to fit the Weaver mode as a super cheap flyer is RJ Hampton. Obviously he'd have little to no impact next season but he could be that end of bench kinda flyer Weaver seems to do.

Kind sad Zeeb that the external optimism has been beaten out of you already and it's not even All Star weekend




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[coolness]

If we do my trade of a butt-ton of decent parts for Westbrook's expiring (we def should buy him out then and there) and two 1st's, we could have room for signing Grant Williams AND Dillon Brooks. Overpaying each a little, but that's life or whatever. There would be no more debating between those two guys and they could both play together fine.

Another fanboy trade here: DET/ORL
Ivey & Bey
for
Franz & Suggs

I don't understand the Suggs situation to be honest, but Franz would definitely help a lot and we don't know if Ivey will definitely help a lot. Suggs could defend pg's when he shares the floor with Cade.