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2022-23 Season Discussion and Speculation 4 - Trade season continues - No player trade restrictions

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Initial thoughts on KD for Bridges, Cam, Crowder, plus picks?

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Re: 2022-23 Season Discussion and Speculation 4 - Trade season continues - No player trade restrictions 

Post#561 » by BobbieL » Fri Jan 27, 2023 10:11 pm

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sunsbum wrote:Regurgitation for clicks is all I see. NBA journalism is embarrassing.
There is one big circle jerk with this stuff where one person throws out something then like 9 others 'report' it and typically take what was actually said out of context.

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Post#562 » by Ghost of Kleine » Fri Jan 27, 2023 10:21 pm

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112/4 (28 million). Would people do an Ayton/Crowder for Grant/Nurkic deal with Portland IF Grant was willing to accept his max contract in a sign n trade deal?? Could we even do that?
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Post#563 » by lilfishi22 » Fri Jan 27, 2023 10:45 pm

SlovenianDragon wrote:I feel like we should consider bringing ayton off the bench...I think it could work out for all parties involved... ayton would still get all his minutes but a majority anchoring our bench unit and feeding the crap out of him. His offense would be more utilized and valued in that roll I think...or maybe I'm losing my mind.

At that point, you might as well ship him out for the highest offer and hope we get back a starting quality player or at least a few rotation guys.
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Post#564 » by lilfishi22 » Fri Jan 27, 2023 10:56 pm

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A bit of an overpay honestly!!

I know his stats don't show it but he's an extremely valuable player and I could see why they are asking for the world when I recall them putting him in the untouchable category. He basically fits and can play on all 30 teams, he plays defense like a demon, he plays with high IQ, he shoots 3's, he's athletic, he's long and he's perhaps most important of all, he's on a VERY team friendly contract. Would love AC on this team
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Post#565 » by TOO » Fri Jan 27, 2023 11:01 pm

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A bit of an overpay honestly!!

I know his stats don't show it but he's an extremely valuable player and I could see why they are asking for the world when I recall them putting him in the untouchable category. He basically fits and can play on all 30 teams, he plays defense like a demon, he plays with high IQ, he shoots 3's, he's athletic, he's long and he's perhaps most important of all, he's on a VERY team friendly contract. Would love AC on this team


Sure, he's a solid role player, definitely not giving up 2 1sts for him, that's insane. GMs have lost their minds thanks to that damn Gobert deal.
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Post#566 » by sunsbum » Fri Jan 27, 2023 11:08 pm

lilfishi22 wrote:
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A bit of an overpay honestly!!

I know his stats don't show it but he's an extremely valuable player and I could see why they are asking for the world when I recall them putting him in the untouchable category. He basically fits and can play on all 30 teams, he plays defense like a demon, he plays with high IQ, he shoots 3's, he's athletic, he's long and he's perhaps most important of all, he's on a VERY team friendly contract. Would love AC on this team

Everyone is shooting their shot right now. The new trend seems to be ask for 3 times as much as the players actually worth because well, Minnesota.
"Mannnnn I’m like the guy that pissed this whole board off saying literally all year no Mikal, no Mikal in the KD trade."
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Post#567 » by bwgood77 » Fri Jan 27, 2023 11:10 pm

SlovenianDragon wrote:I feel like we should consider bringing ayton off the bench...I think it could work out for all parties involved... ayton would still get all his minutes but a majority anchoring our bench unit and feeding the crap out of him. His offense would be more utilized and valued in that roll I think...or maybe I'm losing my mind.


I think that would be worth a try...not only for the reasons you mention but if anything would motivate him to play harder, I think it would be that. Especially when all decent ball handlers are out. They could play a little inside out because obviously with our crappy bench defenses would cave on him and he is good at finding open 3 pt shooters and they shoot a very high % off his assists, or passes, rather.
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Post#568 » by sunsbum » Fri Jan 27, 2023 11:10 pm

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112/4 (28 million). Would people do an Ayton/Crowder for Grant/Nurkic deal with Portland IF Grant was willing to accept his max contract in a sign n trade deal?? Could we even do that?
I don't think Portland does that, I don't think they do that with a 1st coming from us as a sweetner.
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Post#569 » by bwgood77 » Fri Jan 27, 2023 11:11 pm

grumpysaddle wrote:I would trade Ayton for Capella straight up at this point, but we'd have to take back a bit more salary to match for Atlanta. I dunno. I feel like Capella would be a really good fit on this team. Suns play better when they aren't force feeding a player that doesn't deserve to be force-fed. Capella doesn't require plays or touches on the offensive end. He'd just be a rebounder/pick setter/hustler.


Oh yeah, Capela has been awesome this year. I don't see the Hawks trading him. His D has been very strong. He has no range but he is very good at his role.
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Post#570 » by lilfishi22 » Fri Jan 27, 2023 11:11 pm

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Ghost of Kleine wrote:
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A bit of an overpay honestly!!

I know his stats don't show it but he's an extremely valuable player and I could see why they are asking for the world when I recall them putting him in the untouchable category. He basically fits and can play on all 30 teams, he plays defense like a demon, he plays with high IQ, he shoots 3's, he's athletic, he's long and he's perhaps most important of all, he's on a VERY team friendly contract. Would love AC on this team


Sure, he's a solid role player, definitely not giving up 2 1sts for him, that's insane. GMs have lost their minds thanks to that damn Gobert deal.

It is a lot but that's why they are asking for it. They can step back from there. Also two firsts doesn't mean two lotto picks, it could be two highly protected 1sts, it could be a protected 1st and a pick swap...etc
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Post#571 » by lilfishi22 » Fri Jan 27, 2023 11:12 pm

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Ghost of Kleine wrote:
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A bit of an overpay honestly!!

I know his stats don't show it but he's an extremely valuable player and I could see why they are asking for the world when I recall them putting him in the untouchable category. He basically fits and can play on all 30 teams, he plays defense like a demon, he plays with high IQ, he shoots 3's, he's athletic, he's long and he's perhaps most important of all, he's on a VERY team friendly contract. Would love AC on this team

Everyone is shooting their shot right now. The new trend seems to be ask for 3 times as much as the players actually worth because well, Minnesota.

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I also don't think Bulls actually want to trade him but IF they were to let him go, it would be for an offer they can't refuse which would be two 1sts.
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Post#572 » by bwgood77 » Fri Jan 27, 2023 11:18 pm

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Thoughts???


Without a doubt. Paul will be done soon and Crowder is done. I don't like DLo much but Towns is underrated and still a great player and McDaniels is good.

Seems like a no brainer. You are basically adding an all star C and a nice role player for depth in addition to DLo, which could be a great bench guard or potential starter eventually.

I don't see Minny doing that unless we included a few picks though. And am not sure why they would want Ayton.

The only issue is Towns has had a lot of trouble staying healthy.
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Post#573 » by bwgood77 » Fri Jan 27, 2023 11:18 pm

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Thoughts???


Without a doubt. Paul will be done soon and Crowder is done. I don't like DLo much but Towns is underrated and still a great player and McDaniels is good.

Seems like a no brainer. You are basically adding an all star C and a nice role player for depth in addition to DLo, which could be a great bench guard or potential starter eventually.

I don't see Minny doing that unless we included a few picks though. And am not sure why they would want Ayton.

The only issue is Towns has had a lot of trouble staying healthy.
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Post#574 » by WeekapaugGroove » Fri Jan 27, 2023 11:31 pm

Friendly reminder that Towns litterally can't be traded until this summer per the CBA.

But I will say unless him and Gobert figure out how to play together the next 30 games I do think he gets dealt in the off-season. Maybe ATL for Young? I can kind of see why both teams would consider it.

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Post#575 » by TeamTragic » Fri Jan 27, 2023 11:44 pm

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I'm definitely curious as to what the cost might be for this kid. He's a flamethrower, and we could definitely use that! Jae Crowder or maybe even Shamet or Saric for Hyland/filler/ 2nd? :dontknow:


This would be a great trade for Jae. The rest are hot garbage and/or unreasonable.
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Post#576 » by Ghost of Kleine » Fri Jan 27, 2023 11:45 pm

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Payne for two firsts?? LOL
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Post#577 » by TeamTragic » Fri Jan 27, 2023 11:47 pm

Per RealGM Grant just declined a max contract offer from the Blazers and wants more money in free agency.

Please stop with the trade CP3/DA. Nothing coming back at the moment would improve this team.
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Post#578 » by Blonde » Sat Jan 28, 2023 12:04 am

People have to understand, Ainge destroyed the trade market in the offseason and it may take a while to stabilize. If Gobert got a team’s full draft package + valuable rotation pieces, of course everyone else will ask for two firsts for their fringe starters. The market will correct itself, just hope that the Suns aren’t the next chump.
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Post#579 » by sasquatchBob » Sat Jan 28, 2023 12:05 am

Bones Hyland is on the trade block. He's exactly who we should target. Buy cheap with huge upside!
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Post#580 » by TeamTragic » Sat Jan 28, 2023 12:08 am

Blonde wrote:People have to understand, Ainge destroyed the trade market in the offseason and it may take a while to stabilize. If Gobert got a team’s full draft package + valuable rotation pieces, of course everyone else will ask for two firsts for their fringe starters. The market will correct itself, just hope that the Suns aren’t the next chump.


The market has already stabilized based on the Ainge fleece for Gobert.

From what I have heard Matt is not willing to give away first round picks.

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