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Post#101 » by TerrenceClarke » Sat Jan 28, 2023 7:08 pm

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Post#104 » by TerrenceClarke » Sat Jan 28, 2023 7:12 pm

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3toheadmelo wrote:2010 bout to have the twin towers in Wendy and Bol :lol:


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Ok Eballa we need a intervention....
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Post#105 » by Capn'O » Sat Jan 28, 2023 7:51 pm

Ok I need to level. Who is Gary?
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Post#106 » by mpharris36 » Sat Jan 28, 2023 7:59 pm

Capn'O wrote:Ok I need to level. Who is Gary?


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Post#108 » by mpharris36 » Sat Jan 28, 2023 8:21 pm

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With or without Wemby he’s going to be heavy favorite for the next couple years.


I will take the no Wemby route tank you very much


It’s not even guaranteed that the Wiz pick will land 1st so he took the safe route to secure a back to back chip. Nobody has ever repeated in BAF and he has pretty much secured it this year and very likely next year too.


No guarantees at anything but I did think my two biggest weaknesses was offensive rebounding and rim protection. I think I addressed them.

Sure it was at the cost of that pick but its under 30% odds to hit a top 2 pick. So no one was going to give Wemby or Scoot value for that pick when there is over a 70% odds it doesn't land there. I could have held it (which I was seriously considering) and in real life probaby was lower value then a pick like that would garner. But reall feel like the guys I added complement my team nice. As much as my starters dominant I feel like I have a big advantage depth wise as all my guys are uber productive in there roles.

As I stated before we 2010 along with a few GM's I had strong convos and I think he did his best to present me the things I was looking for. You remember when I reached out to you before you dealt a couple of your guys...very similar framework with what I accepted right?
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Post#109 » by Deeeez Knicks » Sat Jan 28, 2023 8:37 pm

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Deeeez Knicks wrote:Crazy morning in baf.

It was just a matter of time before mph cashed in that wash pick. Good value and fair trade all around in that deal.


Thanks. They won't help this year but I have high hopes for Green and Alvarado in the SIM in the future. Both should be great additions as defensive minded roles players.

2010 was very on top of what I was looking for. If you weren't aware it was me after Robert Williams :lol: :lol: :lol:

Hes got legit chance to turn this around in just one year with the assets he acquired from me.


I didn't know for sure but thought he might get routed somewhere else.

2010 had some good offers that tempted me... overall really tough to move him though, especially since i already had the Lauri deal
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Post#110 » by mpharris36 » Sat Jan 28, 2023 8:40 pm

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Deeeez Knicks wrote:Crazy morning in baf.

It was just a matter of time before mph cashed in that wash pick. Good value and fair trade all around in that deal.


Thanks. They won't help this year but I have high hopes for Green and Alvarado in the SIM in the future. Both should be great additions as defensive minded roles players.

2010 was very on top of what I was looking for. If you weren't aware it was me after Robert Williams :lol: :lol: :lol:

Hes got legit chance to turn this around in just one year with the assets he acquired from me.


I didn't know for sure but thought he might get routed somewhere else.

2010 had some good offers that tempted me... overall really tough to move him though, especially since i already had the Lauri deal


yeah I think for the most part a lot of the convos were good convos. But absolutely fair for you wanting to hold onto him. Kinda fits well with Giannis and Lauri and you are contention and have to go up against a lot of tough bigs in the west. So completely understandable.
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Post#111 » by Deeeez Knicks » Sat Jan 28, 2023 8:45 pm

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Thanks. They won't help this year but I have high hopes for Green and Alvarado in the SIM in the future. Both should be great additions as defensive minded roles players.

2010 was very on top of what I was looking for. If you weren't aware it was me after Robert Williams :lol: :lol: :lol:

Hes got legit chance to turn this around in just one year with the assets he acquired from me.


I didn't know for sure but thought he might get routed somewhere else.

2010 had some good offers that tempted me... overall really tough to move him though, especially since i already had the Lauri deal


yeah I think for the most part a lot of the convos were good convos. But absolutely fair for you wanting to hold onto him. Kinda fits well with Giannis and Lauri and you are contention and have to go up against a lot of tough bigs in the west. So completely understandable.


I actually didn't expect Robert Williams going to your team since you already had Jokic.

But yea, so many great bigs in the west to contend with and he's locked up on a great contract....sim does love big man depth, so can see why you were after another big
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Post#112 » by mpharris36 » Sat Jan 28, 2023 8:50 pm

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I didn't know for sure but thought he might get routed somewhere else.

2010 had some good offers that tempted me... overall really tough to move him though, especially since i already had the Lauri deal


yeah I think for the most part a lot of the convos were good convos. But absolutely fair for you wanting to hold onto him. Kinda fits well with Giannis and Lauri and you are contention and have to go up against a lot of tough bigs in the west. So completely understandable.


I actually didn't expect Robert Williams going to your team since you already had Jokic.

But yea, so many great bigs in the west to contend with and he's locked up on a great contract....sim does love big man depth, so can see why you were after another big


Ultimately I was looking for high EFF guy that can defend and rebound (more specifically OFF rebound). Giannis has given me so much trouble I never have guarded him with size so probably will throw Dray + Mitch on him at times.

The two big lineup worked well for me with Robert Williams and Wiseman. And It was killing it for E-balla this year with Harrell and Allen. So it won't be for a ton of minutes but matchup wise we will see some Mitch + Jokic lineups.
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Post#113 » by E-Balla » Sat Jan 28, 2023 8:53 pm

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Capn'O wrote:My observation is the sim seems to lag a year or two on raw production spikes or declines. This axiom has served me well but we shall see.

This going back to my first year with Pau who played like prime Pau in 2017. SGA this year when previous years would have supported a spike. Many others.

They literally base it solely off last year's numbers. You gotta find out exactly what numbers correlate to what but notice most of my predictions are on point. Some are way off, but it's never going to be 100% unless I actually was Gary lol.

As far as Pau goes he had a 22 PER and a 4.9 BPM in 2016. His peak PER is a 23 and his peak BPM is a 5.5. Yes he performed like prime Pau - statistically he was still just as good as in his prime according to the numbers they use.

When looking at whether or not a player will improve or decline I look at their production relative to their previous production. JB is having a down year in real life, he'll be lucky to not drop some in the sim.


In what world?

Scoring: up
Rebounds: up
Per: up
TS%: up
Usage: up
Blocks: up
Steals: flat

Only assists down.

Where are you getting this? I don't have any indication that they use rpm or anything of the like. Raw production seems tantamount.

You're forgetting league averages are up. That's adjusted in the sim engine not with ratings.

Scoring: 13th in PPG in 2022, 13th so far this year.
Rebounds: 45th in RPG in 2022, 42nd so far this year.
Assists: 61st in APG in 2022, 75th so far this year.

And I can keep going but I think you get it. His efficiency is up so he'll be more efficient, but again that's a league wide phenomenon.
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Post#114 » by bringbackhoffa » Sat Jan 28, 2023 9:25 pm

E-Balla wrote:Also for full transparency I didn't have the sim my first year or last year. I do have it this year. I don't run moves into the sim or have the whole league rebuilt in the sim because I have a life and a job, I just use it because it's way easier to get my rotations in using screenshots of the sim as opposed to spending hours in that spreadsheet I had last year. It also makes it easier to see my schedule vs having to go back to last year and search through the thread. With all the full rotations I do I spent well over an extra hour messing with that spreadsheet and I realized at the start of this season I don't even work professionally for $60 an hour so I'll be damned if I don't buy the game and use a spreadsheet to save $60.

Does it show you the most optimal line up to use like the below link indicates, this appears to be for a past season but does it continue to do that, could be worth the $60 bucks for me as well then.

"Our in-game lineup tracking lets you easily see what the good (and bad) rotations are"

https://www.wolverinestudios.com/post/understanding-advanced-stats

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Post#115 » by Fat » Sat Jan 28, 2023 9:55 pm

Think I’ll do some experimenting before I go all out on the tank
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I am making Keegan Murray ( $52/3(4) years ) available. Biggest need is a center who could push Okongwu for starter minutes. Now and into the future.
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Post#117 » by 2010 » Sat Jan 28, 2023 10:14 pm

Buzzard wrote:I am making Keegan Murray ( $52/3(4) years ) available. Biggest need is a center who could push Okongwu for starter minutes. Now and into the future.


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Post#118 » by E-Balla » Sat Jan 28, 2023 11:16 pm

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E-Balla wrote:Also for full transparency I didn't have the sim my first year or last year. I do have it this year. I don't run moves into the sim or have the whole league rebuilt in the sim because I have a life and a job, I just use it because it's way easier to get my rotations in using screenshots of the sim as opposed to spending hours in that spreadsheet I had last year. It also makes it easier to see my schedule vs having to go back to last year and search through the thread. With all the full rotations I do I spent well over an extra hour messing with that spreadsheet and I realized at the start of this season I don't even work professionally for $60 an hour so I'll be damned if I don't buy the game and use a spreadsheet to save $60.

Does it show you the most optimal line up to use like the below link indicates, this appears to be for a past season but does it continue to do that, could be worth the $60 bucks for me as well then.

"Our in-game lineup tracking lets you easily see what the good (and bad) rotations are"

https://www.wolverinestudios.com/post/understanding-advanced-stats

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Couldn't tell you and if it could idk what the use would be unless you recreate every team, trade, opposing lineup, strategy, coach, simulation settings, etc. Too many factors imo.

Unless I figured out a way to play MPH 82 times to analyze different strategies I don't think simming games is much help against human lineups, rotation, logic, and of course injuries.
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Post#119 » by HEZI » Sat Jan 28, 2023 11:25 pm

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I will take the no Wemby route tank you very much


It’s not even guaranteed that the Wiz pick will land 1st so he took the safe route to secure a back to back chip. Nobody has ever repeated in BAF and he has pretty much secured it this year and very likely next year too.


No guarantees at anything but I did think my two biggest weaknesses was offensive rebounding and rim protection. I think I addressed them.

Sure it was at the cost of that pick but its under 30% odds to hit a top 2 pick. So no one was going to give Wemby or Scoot value for that pick when there is over a 70% odds it doesn't land there. I could have held it (which I was seriously considering) and in real life probaby was lower value then a pick like that would garner. But reall feel like the guys I added complement my team nice. As much as my starters dominant I feel like I have a big advantage depth wise as all my guys are uber productive in there roles.

As I stated before we 2010 along with a few GM's I had strong convos and I think he did his best to present me the things I was looking for. You remember when I reached out to you before you dealt a couple of your guys...very similar framework with what I accepted right?


Yeah. Having regrets now that your pretty much ruined the season for me I’m kinda wishing I took the deal and hit the reset button
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Post#120 » by Capn'O » Sat Jan 28, 2023 11:27 pm

E-Balla wrote:
Capn'O wrote:
E-Balla wrote:They literally base it solely off last year's numbers. You gotta find out exactly what numbers correlate to what but notice most of my predictions are on point. Some are way off, but it's never going to be 100% unless I actually was Gary lol.

As far as Pau goes he had a 22 PER and a 4.9 BPM in 2016. His peak PER is a 23 and his peak BPM is a 5.5. Yes he performed like prime Pau - statistically he was still just as good as in his prime according to the numbers they use.

When looking at whether or not a player will improve or decline I look at their production relative to their previous production. JB is having a down year in real life, he'll be lucky to not drop some in the sim.


In what world?

Scoring: up
Rebounds: up
Per: up
TS%: up
Usage: up
Blocks: up
Steals: flat

Only assists down.

Where are you getting this? I don't have any indication that they use rpm or anything of the like. Raw production seems tantamount.

You're forgetting league averages are up. That's adjusted in the sim engine not with ratings.

Scoring: 13th in PPG in 2022, 13th so far this year.
Rebounds: 45th in RPG in 2022, 42nd so far this year.
Assists: 61st in APG in 2022, 75th so far this year.

And I can keep going but I think you get it. His efficiency is up so he'll be more efficient, but again that's a league wide phenomenon.


But it's definitely not a down year with PER normalizing for league average. PER is up.
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