NBA MVP Discussion Thread 2022-23 (pt 2)

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Who is your current NBA MVP? (listed alphabetically)

Giannis Antetokounmpo
51
13%
Luka Doncic
70
18%
Kevin Durant
19
5%
Joel Embiid
25
6%
Nikola Jokic
167
42%
Donovan Mitchell
2
1%
Ja Morant
2
1%
Jayson Tatum
48
12%
Zion Williamson
5
1%
Other (Booker, Curry, Davis, SGA, etc.)
8
2%
 
Total votes: 397

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Post#1801 » by phifans » Sun Jan 29, 2023 2:56 am

Mickey8 wrote:He has already enough wins so far in the season. Embiid is consistently crying so Jokic played at his 50% today , lets other fella have some joy in his life :)


Well maybe Joker will play better if he knew this lose hurts your feeling so bad ...
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Post#1802 » by kuclas » Sun Jan 29, 2023 3:18 am

I’m an embiid fan. But he’s not the mvp. He’s close. But close doesn’t count. But my big gripe is with all nba voting. It’s ridiculous that he has never gotten at least one all nba first team. The biggest rob was 2017-2018 and 2018-2019 seasons. No way AD is a center. And embiid was better than Jokic in 2018-2019. Voters gave lesser performing Jokic due to games played. Yet same voters would give Steph curry all nba 3rd team playing 51 games. So that just shows u the hypocritical nature of voters.

And embiid is the only player to average 27/13 that 2018-2019 season to NOT WIN MVP. The only. And mind you. The games played excused is bogus. To give it to Jokic that year. Because voters routinely gave it to shaq (1st team all nba) who played similar games (66-67) in the early 2000s
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Post#1803 » by bebopdeluxe » Sun Jan 29, 2023 3:37 am

So, how did Jokic do in the 4th quarter today?

2 points and 3 turnovers for Jokic in the final quarter as his team collapsed on national television. If Joel Embiid did that he would never be considered for an All-Star game again.

You know that's right.
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Post#1804 » by eyeatoma » Sun Jan 29, 2023 4:05 am

bebopdeluxe wrote:So, how did Jokic do in the 4th quarter today?

2 points and 3 turnovers for Jokic in the final quarter as his team collapsed on national television. If Joel Embiid did that he would never be considered for an All-Star game again.

You know that's right.


As I've said before, the goal posts and excuses are always made for Joker. There's always a reason.

It's like there's a book, with a response for all Jokic stans on what twisted logic to introduce when their altar boy is slighted.
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Post#1805 » by Duke4life831 » Sun Jan 29, 2023 4:36 am

I dont think its all that difficult to put what happened today into proper context. Going into today Jokic was the heavy heavy favorite to win the MVP. He got thoroughly outplayed by Embiid today. Will this help Embiid and hurt Jokic some? Yup. Enough where Embiid is now the favorite? Nope. Now if Embiid and the 6ers keep up this level of play and Jokic begins to slip and it becomes a much closer race by the end of the year, can this game play some part into it? Ya.
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Post#1806 » by Mickey8 » Sun Jan 29, 2023 4:47 am

It would help him a lot if he suits up for the game in Denver in March and then he outplays Jokic again but he wont play in that game, I am sure. But I can't see him winning over Luka if the Mavs are in the play off's. Sixers have to be first in the East at the end of the season to have the chance.
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Post#1807 » by eyeatoma » Sun Jan 29, 2023 4:56 am

Mickey8 wrote:It would help him a lot if he suits up for the game in Denver in March and then he outplays Jokic again but he wont play in that game, I am sure. But I can't see him winning over Luka if the Mavs are in the play off's. Sixers have to be first in the East at the end of the season to have the chance.



Lol, he was hurt the last time he missed the game, not sure what you're going on about. If he's healthy he'll play. Simple as that.
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Post#1808 » by Mickey8 » Sun Jan 29, 2023 4:59 am

He's always hurt when the Sixers play there .
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Post#1809 » by eyeatoma » Sun Jan 29, 2023 5:05 am

Mickey8 wrote:He's always hurt when the Sixers play there .



Yes it's unfortunate. What's more unfortunate is you trying to claim that a grown man is trying to duck playing there lol. The same player that just dominated Jokic in Philly.
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Post#1810 » by Mickey8 » Sun Jan 29, 2023 5:07 am

He won a duel at home, let him prove it again on the road :wink: Man up Joel :)
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Post#1811 » by Cubbies2120 » Sun Jan 29, 2023 5:17 am

bebopdeluxe wrote:So, how did Jokic do in the 4th quarter today?

2 points and 3 turnovers for Jokic in the final quarter as his team collapsed on national television. If Joel Embiid did that he would never be considered for an All-Star game again.

You know that's right.


You sure?

Embiid just last year in a game with Jokic missing MPJ/Murray, in the 4th quarter:

5 points and 2 turnovers on 5 shots (+ flagrant free throws), while his team collapsed in 4th quarter on National TV...

Jokic shot twice tonight in the 4th quarter lol.

Why was Embiid not guarding Jokic after Jokic kept cooking him? Jokic manned up and defended Embiid, no matter the result...Embiid hid behind Tucker lol...
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Post#1812 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Sun Jan 29, 2023 5:19 am

Rough night for the Jokilytes.
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Post#1813 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Sun Jan 29, 2023 5:22 am

Cubbies2120 wrote:Why was Embiid not guarding Jokic after Jokic kept cooking him? Jokic manned up and defended Embiid, no matter the result...Embiid hid behind Tucker lol...



That's easy, he was guarding Gordon so he could come over and help and then recover. If Jokic had defensive versatility you could put him on a perimeter tweener 3/4 and have Gordon on Embiid, with Jokic providing help off of Tucker, but he can't closeout to the 3 point line, recover and then guard the rim. You can only put him on another center, or some paint based player that doesn't shoot and can't attack closeouts.


And if Jokic was "cooking" Embiid in the first half, what do you call what Embiid did to him for the whole game?
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Post#1814 » by sodmoraes » Sun Jan 29, 2023 5:23 am

Embiid, after the game, telling the joker the hard truth about the mvp race:

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Post#1815 » by Cubbies2120 » Sun Jan 29, 2023 5:35 am

sodmoraes wrote:Embiid, after the game, telling the joker the hard truth about the mvp race:

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He should talk to the bookies because they still have Jokic as a massive favorite. The only player in - odds, Embiid has closed the gap though he's at +300 now
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Post#1816 » by Cubbies2120 » Sun Jan 29, 2023 5:37 am

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
Cubbies2120 wrote:Why was Embiid not guarding Jokic after Jokic kept cooking him? Jokic manned up and defended Embiid, no matter the result...Embiid hid behind Tucker lol...



That's easy, he was guarding Gordon so he could come over and help and then recover. If Jokic had defensive versatility you could put him on a perimeter tweener 3/4 and have Gordon on Embiid, with Jokic providing help off of Tucker, but he can't closeout to the 3 point line, recover and then guard the rim. You can only put him on another center, or some paint based player that doesn't shoot and can't attack closeouts.


And if Jokic was "cooking" Embiid in the first half, what do you call what Embiid did to him for the whole game?


Lot of words to say "he wanted the easy job"...Jokic was cooking him, and Embiid was cooking Jokic, but Jokic doesn't have the luxury of hiding on other players. He manned up the entire game. Embiid called it quits at the half and admitted defeat on the defensive end, which is fine too.
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Post#1817 » by Infinite Llamas » Sun Jan 29, 2023 5:43 am

Jokic has a solitary bad quarter and people out here getting carpel tunnel they’re typing so fast to get their takes in lmao
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Post#1818 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Sun Jan 29, 2023 5:44 am

Cubbies2120 wrote:
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
Cubbies2120 wrote:Why was Embiid not guarding Jokic after Jokic kept cooking him? Jokic manned up and defended Embiid, no matter the result...Embiid hid behind Tucker lol...



That's easy, he was guarding Gordon so he could come over and help and then recover. If Jokic had defensive versatility you could put him on a perimeter tweener 3/4 and have Gordon on Embiid, with Jokic providing help off of Tucker, but he can't closeout to the 3 point line, recover and then guard the rim. You can only put him on another center, or some paint based player that doesn't shoot and can't attack closeouts.


And if Jokic was "cooking" Embiid in the first half, what do you call what Embiid did to him for the whole game?


Lot of words to say "he wanted the easy job"...Jokic was cooking him, and Embiid was cooking Jokic, but Jokic doesn't have the luxury of hiding on other players. He manned up the entire game. Embiid called it quits at the half and admitted defeat on the defensive end, which is fine too.


Correction, Jokic doesn't have the ability to guard perimeter forwards and then recover to the rim.


No, what Embiid did to Jokic tonight wasn't just cooking, he had that boy out there on the hibachi grill doing a full show. It was so bad that you're trying to say what Jokic did in the first half is on the same level as what Embiid did to him for the whole game :lol:

VORP boys having a tough one tonight, game been over for 7 hours and you playing harder D than Jokic did.
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Post#1819 » by eyeatoma » Sun Jan 29, 2023 5:54 am

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
Cubbies2120 wrote:
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:

That's easy, he was guarding Gordon so he could come over and help and then recover. If Jokic had defensive versatility you could put him on a perimeter tweener 3/4 and have Gordon on Embiid, with Jokic providing help off of Tucker, but he can't closeout to the 3 point line, recover and then guard the rim. You can only put him on another center, or some paint based player that doesn't shoot and can't attack closeouts.


And if Jokic was "cooking" Embiid in the first half, what do you call what Embiid did to him for the whole game?


Lot of words to say "he wanted the easy job"...Jokic was cooking him, and Embiid was cooking Jokic, but Jokic doesn't have the luxury of hiding on other players. He manned up the entire game. Embiid called it quits at the half and admitted defeat on the defensive end, which is fine too.


Correction, Jokic doesn't have the ability to guard perimeter forwards and then recover to the rim.


No, what Embiid did to Jokic tonight wasn't just cooking, he had that boy out there on the hibachi grill doing a full show. It was so bad that you're trying to say what Jokic did in the first half is on the same level as what Embiid did to him for the whole game

VORP boys having a tough one tonight, game been over for 7 hours and you playing harder D than Jokic did.
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Post#1820 » by Cubbies2120 » Sun Jan 29, 2023 5:56 am

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
Cubbies2120 wrote:
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:

That's easy, he was guarding Gordon so he could come over and help and then recover. If Jokic had defensive versatility you could put him on a perimeter tweener 3/4 and have Gordon on Embiid, with Jokic providing help off of Tucker, but he can't closeout to the 3 point line, recover and then guard the rim. You can only put him on another center, or some paint based player that doesn't shoot and can't attack closeouts.


And if Jokic was "cooking" Embiid in the first half, what do you call what Embiid did to him for the whole game?


Lot of words to say "he wanted the easy job"...Jokic was cooking him, and Embiid was cooking Jokic, but Jokic doesn't have the luxury of hiding on other players. He manned up the entire game. Embiid called it quits at the half and admitted defeat on the defensive end, which is fine too.


Correction, Jokic doesn't have the ability to guard perimeter forwards and then recover to the rim.


No, what Embiid did to Jokic tonight wasn't just cooking, he had that boy out there on the hibachi grill doing a full show. It was so bad that you're trying to say what Jokic did in the first half is on the same level as what Embiid did to him for the whole game :lol:

VORP boys having a tough one tonight, game been over for 7 hours and you playing harder D than Jokic did.


What Jokic did to Embiid in the first half continues in the 2nd half if Embiid doesn't beg Doc to switch off...I assume that's what happened, either that or Embiid as a franchise player has no pull in the team to say "I got the best player on the other team. I'm a great defender"...



I keep hearing "Embiid is a great defender", but why does he not guard the opponent's best big man? He took the easy way out, Jokic said "Nah, this guy is the best player on the other team I'm gonna man up and guard him no matter the result". Embiid said "I'm gonna chill on the sideline and rest for the offensive end" :lol:

All good on this end I saw Jokic fill his trophy case the last two years, Embiid needs a W once in a while...Jokic came into Philly last year down a couple max players and took the MVP out of Embiid's hands :lol: Embiid narrowed the gap with this performance, still a massive difference in MVP odds...

Btw...All Star Game is coming up, I'm excited for Embiid to hunt the All Star MVP again while everyone else takes it easy...maybe he'll get SOME sort of trophy after all :lol: Misses a good 20% of the season and goes all out for the all star game, par for the course :lol:
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