2023 trade deadline (February 9)

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Re: 2023 trade deadline 

Post#241 » by ChumboChappati » Sun Jan 29, 2023 3:15 am

Tripod wrote:
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Zeno wrote:Bamba, Harris, Cole Anthony (or Suggs maybe) and the lesser of their and Chicago's 1sts.But I'm not sure Raps would do that and I'm not sure Orlando would give more than that...

Harris + Bamba should be enough.

Nope, just watch 2 weeks.


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Zeno wrote:Bamba, Harris, Cole Anthony (or Suggs maybe) and the lesser of their and Chicago's 1sts.But I'm not sure Raps would do that and I'm not sure Orlando would give more than that...

Harris + Bamba should be enough.


Harris + Bamba won't get you crap, let alone Fred lol. It's gotta be Suggs + Fillers.


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ChumboChappati wrote:
Zeno wrote:Bamba, Harris, Cole Anthony (or Suggs maybe) and the lesser of their and Chicago's 1sts.But I'm not sure Raps would do that and I'm not sure Orlando would give more than that...

Harris + Bamba should be enough.


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C'mon now, Bamba who can barely crack the Magic's rotation after 5 years and Harris who's an injury prone one trick pony for a starting calibre pg.

You guys are forgetting that Fred will be an unrestricted free agent at the end of this season and can sign with any team. So Raptors do not have much leverage regarding Fred. Fred is going to demand huge money in the next contract (around 30 million dollars per year). Would Toronto pay that much money to him? Remember Toronto is a lottery team with Fred and has a bleak future. I think Harris + Bamba is a great offer in such a case.
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Re: 2023 trade deadline 

Post#242 » by TunaFish » Sun Jan 29, 2023 3:35 am

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mcmurphy wrote:If I'm Denver GM I'd be listening in the Toronto area (Siakam or OG).


Denver is looking for a bench piece not a starting level talent. Jokic, Gordon, MPJ, KCP and Murray are looking like a true contender level group with good chemistry. Bones and Brown are great in reserve. None of these guys are available.

Backup center is an issue and the only likely trade target but Denver has little to trade back after protecting the above (also no picks are available). If they find a bench piece it will have to come cheap.
I would like to see the magic trade Bamba do you guys, hopefully it unlocks him like AG


Interesting idea but that's going to require some cap maneuvering or a trade for a player. Denver has a 9.2 million TPE and that's it for a team in the tax but below the apron leaving not much room cap wise to acquire a player. Bamb is above 10 million in annual salary so that won't fit.

I think that means only a trade is going to work. Looking at Denver's roster, Jeff Green and Ish Smith together are close to a salary match and Denver would trade them. Would Orlando except that?
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Re: 2023 trade deadline 

Post#243 » by Raptors Realtor » Sun Jan 29, 2023 3:45 am

ChumboChappati wrote:
Tripod wrote:
ChumboChappati wrote:Harris + Bamba should be enough.

Nope, just watch 2 weeks.


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ChumboChappati wrote:Harris + Bamba should be enough.


Harris + Bamba won't get you crap, let alone Fred lol. It's gotta be Suggs + Fillers.


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ChumboChappati wrote:Harris + Bamba should be enough.


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C'mon now, Bamba who can barely crack the Magic's rotation after 5 years and Harris who's an injury prone one trick pony for a starting calibre pg.

You guys are forgetting that Fred will be an unrestricted free agent at the end of this season and can sign with any team. So Raptors do not have much leverage regarding Fred. Fred is going to demand huge money in the next contract (around 30 million dollars per year). Would Toronto pay that much money to him? Remember Toronto is a lottery team with Fred and has a bleak future. I think Harris + Bamba is a great offer in such a case.


You're forgetting:

1) Raps have his bird rights & can re-sign him if they so choose
2) Raptors have the best record in the eastern conference in the last decade
3) Raptors don't have a bleak future, they have a top 20 player in Siakam, rookie of the year Scottie Barnes, an easy top 5 defensive player in OG who averages 18 pts & leads the league in steals, Gary Trent Jr, Achiuwa and all our picks going forward... All guys & picks they can bring back or deal to reshape the roster.
4) If things don't improve this season, currently in line for a top 6 draft pick
5) Bamba & Harris have very little trade value around the league, Magic would be lucky to get a 2nd round pick for either, so NO we don't have to give Fred away for couple bench pieces from a team who has an even worse record that would have zero impact on our team.
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Re: 2023 trade deadline 

Post#244 » by WRau1 » Sun Jan 29, 2023 4:32 am

^^ sounds like that should be a top 5 team in the East.
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Re: 2023 trade deadline 

Post#245 » by Tripod » Sun Jan 29, 2023 6:03 am

ChumboChappati wrote:
Tripod wrote:
ChumboChappati wrote:Harris + Bamba should be enough.

Nope, just watch 2 weeks.


Tor_Raps wrote:
ChumboChappati wrote:Harris + Bamba should be enough.


Harris + Bamba won't get you crap, let alone Fred lol. It's gotta be Suggs + Fillers.


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ChumboChappati wrote:Harris + Bamba should be enough.


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C'mon now, Bamba who can barely crack the Magic's rotation after 5 years and Harris who's an injury prone one trick pony for a starting calibre pg.

You guys are forgetting that Fred will be an unrestricted free agent at the end of this season and can sign with any team. So Raptors do not have much leverage regarding Fred. Fred is going to demand huge money in the next contract (around 30 million dollars per year). Would Toronto pay that much money to him? Remember Toronto is a lottery team with Fred and has a bleak future. I think Harris + Bamba is a great offer in such a case.

True.last time the Raps had a UFA they were forced to do a S&T with Lowry and only got Achiuwa back.

What's that? Achiuwa just posted 27 pts and 13 reb tonight?

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Re: 2023 trade deadline 

Post#246 » by Raptors Realtor » Sun Jan 29, 2023 8:48 am

WRau1 wrote:^^ sounds like that should be a top 5 team in the East.


Lol well what we lack is a reliable bench and 3pt shooting, but Bamba isn't an upgrade over Achiuwa at C who just came back after missing a couple months, and we also have Koloko who's developing nicely... And although Harris shoots the 3, he doesn't provide much else and is always injured.
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Re: 2023 trade deadline 

Post#247 » by shangrila » Sun Jan 29, 2023 12:30 pm

It’ll be fascinating to see what the Raptors players go for, if they’re traded at all.
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Re: 2023 trade deadline 

Post#248 » by jehosafats » Sun Jan 29, 2023 3:15 pm

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jehosafats wrote:Some team will nab Josh Hart, I'm sure. $12 million guaranteed though. Among the top 5 role players in the league in my opinion.


I haven’t gotten that impression watching him play this year. But I hope whatever teams are offering to trade for him feel that way.

I'm thinking Dame orchestrating the offense, and the ball being very sticky as a result, may diminish how good of a player Hart truly is.
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Re: 2023 trade deadline 

Post#249 » by UnbelievablyRAW » Sun Jan 29, 2023 3:25 pm

Raptor guys are overrated yet people wanna trade for them. Make it make sense
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Re: 2023 trade deadline 

Post#250 » by UnbelievablyRAW » Sun Jan 29, 2023 3:53 pm

Should be able to get Dame for bench guys because the Blazers suck. Obviously that means Dame isn’t that good and it doesn’t have to do with roster construction with a horrendous bench and no consistent offense outside of him. If he was actually good the Blazers would be in the playoffs amirite?

Dame for Malachi, Fred and protected firsts? Might have to add more than 2 to make it fair /greenfont
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Re: 2023 trade deadline 

Post#251 » by dautjazz » Sun Jan 29, 2023 4:20 pm

Minnesota should trade Towns, not sure for who, but ideally a PG.
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Re: 2023 trade deadline 

Post#252 » by Brandon-Clyde » Sun Jan 29, 2023 6:07 pm

UnbelievablyRAW wrote:Should be able to get Dame for bench guys because the Blazers suck. Obviously that means Dame isn’t that good and it doesn’t have to do with roster construction with a horrendous bench and no consistent offense outside of him. If he was actually good the Blazers would be in the playoffs amirite?

Dame for Malachi, Fred and protected firsts? Might have to add more than 2 to make it fair /greenfont

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Re: 2023 trade deadline 

Post#253 » by _AIJ_ » Sun Jan 29, 2023 6:08 pm

dautjazz wrote:Minnesota should trade Towns, not sure for who, but ideally a PG.

KAT cant be traded until the offseason
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Re: 2023 trade deadline 

Post#254 » by Pointgod » Sun Jan 29, 2023 7:02 pm

dautjazz wrote:Minnesota should trade Towns, not sure for who, but ideally a PG.


Towns to Anonoby and Van Vleet? Not my original idea. Got it from a Ringer podcast but I found it pretty interesting that it seems to address a lot of problems for both teams.
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Re: 2023 trade deadline 

Post#255 » by MavsDirk41 » Sun Jan 29, 2023 7:12 pm

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dautjazz wrote:Minnesota should trade Towns, not sure for who, but ideally a PG.

KAT cant be traded until the offseason



I wouldnt trade Towns i would try to trade Gobert.
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Re: 2023 trade deadline 

Post#256 » by MavsDirk41 » Sun Jan 29, 2023 7:14 pm

Pointgod wrote:
dautjazz wrote:Minnesota should trade Towns, not sure for who, but ideally a PG.


Towns to Anonoby and Van Vleet? Not my original idea. Got it from a Ringer podcast but I found it pretty interesting that it seems to address a lot of problems for both teams.



Minnesota would need to get rid of Russell. Not a bad trade tho. Minnesota should have never made that trade for Gobert.
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Re: 2023 trade deadline 

Post#257 » by shangrila » Sun Jan 29, 2023 9:37 pm

MavsDirk41 wrote:
Pointgod wrote:
dautjazz wrote:Minnesota should trade Towns, not sure for who, but ideally a PG.


Towns to Anonoby and Van Vleet? Not my original idea. Got it from a Ringer podcast but I found it pretty interesting that it seems to address a lot of problems for both teams.



Minnesota would need to get rid of Russell. Not a bad trade tho. Minnesota should have never made that trade for Gobert.

Towns can't be traded this season.

Not surprised the professionals at the Ringer wouldn't know this but shame on all of you.
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Re: 2023 trade deadline 

Post#258 » by ILOVEIT » Mon Jan 30, 2023 2:13 am

Turner was extended for two years 30 Mil. The article suggestsed that should take him off the trade market.
Anyone know if that is a fact? Because an extension, IMO, might suggest a pending trade with another team with matching 30 mil salary.
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Re: 2023 trade deadline 

Post#259 » by UnbelievablyRAW » Mon Jan 30, 2023 2:19 am

Brandon-Clyde wrote:
UnbelievablyRAW wrote:Should be able to get Dame for bench guys because the Blazers suck. Obviously that means Dame isn’t that good and it doesn’t have to do with roster construction with a horrendous bench and no consistent offense outside of him. If he was actually good the Blazers would be in the playoffs amirite?

Dame for Malachi, Fred and protected firsts? Might have to add more than 2 to make it fair /greenfont

The difference is that Blazer fans aren't demanding superstar packages for their second and third best players.


Pretty sure Blazer fans would scoff at a Grant and Simons for WB and 27,29
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Re: 2023 trade deadline 

Post#260 » by Tor_Raps » Mon Jan 30, 2023 2:23 am

ILOVEIT wrote:Turner was extended for two years 30 Mil. The article suggestsed that should take him off the trade market.
Anyone know if that is a fact? Because an extension, IMO, might suggest a pending trade with another team with matching 30 mil salary.


It was confirmed by Shams that the extension still allows Turner to be traded anytime. It just increases his value to teams who won't be getting an expiring contract only.

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