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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#1301 » by ItsDanger » Sun Jan 29, 2023 7:45 pm

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mtcan wrote:Watching Perdue live right now. Zach Edey is a man among boys.

35 pts today, child abuse out there on the court.


Edey should probably be drafted late in the 1st. Azubuike was taken in the 1st.

Ivica Zubac has made a career thus far.

Most mocks don't have him ranked, some are late 50s. Somebody will reach because he fits a role and is unique. Probably be like Andrew Nembhard who was an afterthought but went 31st.
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#1302 » by HumbleRen » Sun Jan 29, 2023 7:51 pm

smooth as butter, Ant Black had issues guarding him.

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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#1303 » by mtcan » Sun Jan 29, 2023 8:02 pm

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ItsDanger wrote:35 pts today, child abuse out there on the court.


Edey should probably be drafted late in the 1st. Azubuike was taken in the 1st.

Ivica Zubac has made a career thus far.

Most mocks don't have him ranked, some are late 50s. Somebody will reach because he fits a role and is unique. Probably be like Andrew Nembhard who was an afterthought but went 31st.

Most mocks have him 2nd round or undrafted and cite his lack of ability to score outside of the paint...but he does seem to have soft hands a nice touch around the basket. Get the ball to him deep enough inside and he should be able to finish over most guys.

What does Walker Kessler have over Edey?

Zach had no equal out there against Michigan State.
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#1304 » by Psubs » Sun Jan 29, 2023 8:10 pm

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Edey should probably be drafted late in the 1st. Azubuike was taken in the 1st.

Ivica Zubac has made a career thus far.

Most mocks don't have him ranked, some are late 50s. Somebody will reach because he fits a role and is unique. Probably be like Andrew Nembhard who was an afterthought but went 31st.

Most mocks have him 2nd round or undrafted and cite his lack of ability to score outside of the paint...but he does seem to have soft hands a nice touch around the basket. Get the ball to him deep enough inside and he should be able to finish over most guys.

What does Walker Kessler have over Edey?

Zach had no equal out there against Michigan State.


I guess Kessler can guard the pick and roll a little better?

His floor is Boban. His ceiling is Yao. Though Yao in today's game may be just an a average player due to mobility, but that's okay late in the 1st.
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#1305 » by WuTang_CMB » Sun Jan 29, 2023 8:21 pm

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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#1306 » by ItsDanger » Sun Jan 29, 2023 8:23 pm

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Edey should probably be drafted late in the 1st. Azubuike was taken in the 1st.

Ivica Zubac has made a career thus far.

Most mocks don't have him ranked, some are late 50s. Somebody will reach because he fits a role and is unique. Probably be like Andrew Nembhard who was an afterthought but went 31st.

Most mocks have him 2nd round or undrafted and cite his lack of ability to score outside of the paint...but he does seem to have soft hands a nice touch around the basket. Get the ball to him deep enough inside and he should be able to finish over most guys.

What does Walker Kessler have over Edey?

Zach had no equal out there against Michigan State.

Spartans are small, so the stats are inflated. Kessler is a better shot blocker, more versatile defensively.
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#1307 » by ItsDanger » Sun Jan 29, 2023 8:51 pm

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Scouts pay attention to these plays. Edey in ballscreen action converts at a high rate. Will be tough to stop him in NBA with spacing.
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#1308 » by DreamTeam09 » Sun Jan 29, 2023 8:55 pm

Is be happy leaving this draft with Edey n Ricky Council and these guys are being mocked as 2nd rounders. This draft has a lot of NBAers, just maybe not a lot of All-stars.

It really seems like 3-45 could all relatively be in similar tiers
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Post#1309 » by BoyzNTheHood » Sun Jan 29, 2023 9:28 pm

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DreamTeam09 wrote:Ricky council looks like Arkansas best player at times, being mocked in the 2nd. He's nice


Today Black was whack. Nick Smith played on a few games and was the obvious leader of that team. I expected more from Black today. George was nice, coming back from a bad showing but Ricky Council kept Arkansas in it. He's a true scorer plus he can defend a bit. He should get more attention but that team has good talent that's playing crappy in Conference play.


Please don't spread misinformation. Black was defending amazing well and he's a maestro running the offense. Just because the box score wasn't mind blowing doesn't mean he was "whack". As Raptors fans we should all know this having watched Kyle Lowry for years.

HumbleRen wrote:smooth as butter, Ant Black had issues guarding him.

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While Keyonte showed he's a STUD down the stretch, Anthony Black did not have issues guarding him. Arkansas was switching it up anyways. Ricky Council checked Keyonte for a bit too. But they held him to 8-20 shooting. That's FVV chucker game territory. But like I said, Keyonte was a BEAST in the last 3-4 minutes to close the game out.
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#1310 » by HumbleRen » Sun Jan 29, 2023 9:33 pm

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DreamTeam09 wrote:Ricky council looks like Arkansas best player at times, being mocked in the 2nd. He's nice


Today Black was whack. Nick Smith played on a few games and was the obvious leader of that team. I expected more from Black today. George was nice, coming back from a bad showing but Ricky Council kept Arkansas in it. He's a true scorer plus he can defend a bit. He should get more attention but that team has good talent that's playing crappy in Conference play.


Please don't spread misinformation. Black was defending amazing well and he's a maestro running the offense. Just because the box score wasn't mind blowing doesn't mean he was "whack". As Raptors fans we should all know this having watched Kyle Lowry for years.

HumbleRen wrote:smooth as butter, Ant Black had issues guarding him.

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While Keyonte showed he's a STUD down the stretch, Anthony Black did not have issues guarding him. Arkansas was switching it up anyways. Ricky Council checked Keyonte for a bit too. But they held him to 8-20 shooting. That's FVV chucker game territory. But like I said, Keyonte was a BEAST in the last 3-4 minutes to close the game out.


He was getting whatever shot he wanted, not even close to chucking considering they needed him to take those shots.

Anthony Black couldn't create for nothing in the halfcourt, he's a good prospect but not what we need.
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Post#1311 » by BoyzNTheHood » Sun Jan 29, 2023 9:34 pm

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Ya… hes good.


He's a beast. The only thing I worry about is him being an exclusive 2 foot leaper. Sometimes that causes guys to be awkward when finishing. But there are guys like Jimmy Butler who do it well. If Cam can be close to the defender Jimmy is he's a top 5 pick super easily.
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#1312 » by BoyzNTheHood » Sun Jan 29, 2023 9:39 pm

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Today Black was whack. Nick Smith played on a few games and was the obvious leader of that team. I expected more from Black today. George was nice, coming back from a bad showing but Ricky Council kept Arkansas in it. He's a true scorer plus he can defend a bit. He should get more attention but that team has good talent that's playing crappy in Conference play.


Please don't spread misinformation. Black was defending amazing well and he's a maestro running the offense. Just because the box score wasn't mind blowing doesn't mean he was "whack". As Raptors fans we should all know this having watched Kyle Lowry for years.

HumbleRen wrote:smooth as butter, Ant Black had issues guarding him.

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While Keyonte showed he's a STUD down the stretch, Anthony Black did not have issues guarding him. Arkansas was switching it up anyways. Ricky Council checked Keyonte for a bit too. But they held him to 8-20 shooting. That's FVV chucker game territory. But like I said, Keyonte was a BEAST in the last 3-4 minutes to close the game out.


He was getting whatever shot he wanted, not even close to chucking considering they needed him to take those shots.

Anthony Black couldn't create for nothing in the halfcourt, he's a good prospect but not what we need.


Down the stretch he was, but that percentage was below 40% before that. Him being clutch helped that number look more appealing. They don't need him to take all of those shots. LJ Cryer exists, and shoots a much better percentage. Keyonte is at 38% from the field and 35% from 3. Don't get me wrong, I love Keyonte George as a prospect and think all of these number will improve. But let's not act like the numbers aren't right in front of us.

And to say Anthony Black "couldn't create nothing" is just wrong. He was creating everything for Arkansas.
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#1313 » by HumbleRen » Sun Jan 29, 2023 9:40 pm

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Please don't spread misinformation. Black was defending amazing well and he's a maestro running the offense. Just because the box score wasn't mind blowing doesn't mean he was "whack". As Raptors fans we should all know this having watched Kyle Lowry for years.



While Keyonte showed he's a STUD down the stretch, Anthony Black did not have issues guarding him. Arkansas was switching it up anyways. Ricky Council checked Keyonte for a bit too. But they held him to 8-20 shooting. That's FVV chucker game territory. But like I said, Keyonte was a BEAST in the last 3-4 minutes to close the game out.


He was getting whatever shot he wanted, not even close to chucking considering they needed him to take those shots.

Anthony Black couldn't create for nothing in the halfcourt, he's a good prospect but not what we need.


Down the stretch he was, but that percentage was below 40% before that. Him being clutch helped that number look more appealing. They don't need him to take all of those shots. LJ Cryer exists, and shoots a much better percentage. Keyonte is at 38% from the field and 35% from 3. Don't get me wrong, I love Keyonte George as a prospect and think all of these number will improve. But let's not act like the numbers aren't right in front of us.

And to say Anthony Black "couldn't create nothing" is just wrong. He was creating everything for Arkansas.


I was watching the game lol.

Anthony Black was not creating anything.
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Post#1314 » by BoyzNTheHood » Sun Jan 29, 2023 9:42 pm

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He was getting whatever shot he wanted, not even close to chucking considering they needed him to take those shots.

Anthony Black couldn't create for nothing in the halfcourt, he's a good prospect but not what we need.


Down the stretch he was, but that percentage was below 40% before that. Him being clutch helped that number look more appealing. They don't need him to take all of those shots. LJ Cryer exists, and shoots a much better percentage. Keyonte is at 38% from the field and 35% from 3. Don't get me wrong, I love Keyonte George as a prospect and think all of these number will improve. But let's not act like the numbers aren't right in front of us.

And to say Anthony Black "couldn't create nothing" is just wrong. He was creating everything for Arkansas.


I was watching the game lol.

Anthony Black was not creating anything.


I guess we watched 2 different games.
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#1315 » by hype_2004 » Sun Jan 29, 2023 9:43 pm

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Scouts pay attention to these plays. Edey in ballscreen action converts at a high rate. Will be tough to stop him in NBA with spacing.


I have my eyes on this Canadian kid, absolutely giant and moves well, good FT shooter as a center, excellent rebounder and shotblocker. My guess is he's on Ujiri and Websters radar also, just an absolute unit and space eater that can complement Barnes on the starting unit. He looks like a bigger version of Steven Adams that can shoot free throws :o
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Post#1316 » by HumbleRen » Sun Jan 29, 2023 9:44 pm

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Down the stretch he was, but that percentage was below 40% before that. Him being clutch helped that number look more appealing. They don't need him to take all of those shots. LJ Cryer exists, and shoots a much better percentage. Keyonte is at 38% from the field and 35% from 3. Don't get me wrong, I love Keyonte George as a prospect and think all of these number will improve. But let's not act like the numbers aren't right in front of us.

And to say Anthony Black "couldn't create nothing" is just wrong. He was creating everything for Arkansas.


I was watching the game lol.

Anthony Black was not creating anything.


I guess we watched 2 different games.


Defintely did lol.
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion 

Post#1317 » by WuTang_CMB » Sun Jan 29, 2023 9:48 pm

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Ya… hes good.


He's a beast. The only thing I worry about is him being an exclusive 2 foot leaper. Sometimes that causes guys to be awkward when finishing. But there are guys like Jimmy Butler who do it well. If Cam can be close to the defender Jimmy is he's a top 5 pick super easily.


Said it before i see all jimmy in this kid. Too many similarities
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Post#1318 » by grant101 » Sun Jan 29, 2023 10:20 pm

BoyzNTheHood wrote:
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Ya… hes good.


He's a beast. The only thing I worry about is him being an exclusive 2 foot leaper. Sometimes that causes guys to be awkward when finishing. But there are guys like Jimmy Butler who do it well. If Cam can be close to the defender Jimmy is he's a top 5 pick super easily.


Yeah, it'll be an adjustment no doubt. That said, ppl said the same thing about Donovan Mitchell too. It's not unheard of for these things to be worked on and improved.

I like the Jimmy comp as well. Cam is more advanced offensively at this stage IMO, but will need to plug in a little more on offball defense if he's to replicate Jimmy's success on that end.
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Post#1319 » by Psubs » Sun Jan 29, 2023 11:31 pm

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Scouts pay attention to these plays. Edey in ballscreen action converts at a high rate. Will be tough to stop him in NBA with spacing.


I have my eyes on this Canadian kid, absolutely giant and moves well, good FT shooter as a center, excellent rebounder and shotblocker. My guess is he's on Ujiri and Websters radar also, just an absolute unit and space eater that can complement Barnes on the starting unit. He looks like a bigger version of Steven Adams that can shoot free throws :o


Nice comp. He's got more blocks than fouls this year!!! :o
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Post#1320 » by Syd-TK3 » Sun Jan 29, 2023 11:37 pm

HumbleRen wrote:smooth as butter, Ant Black had issues guarding him.

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That last move with the screen was extremely clever
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