Is LeBron the most disrespected star in getting calls?

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Re: Is LeBron the most disrespected star in getting calls? 

Post#301 » by MoneyMo » Sun Jan 29, 2023 10:41 pm

celtxman wrote:There are a few things going on I this thread
1.) The Tatum hit on Lebron's arm. It seems most people agree that it was a foul, and it cost them winning the game in regulation. So if we agree it was a foul, then we need to put 1.5 seconds on the clock, Lebron likely hits at least one and the Celtics likely have 1.5 seconds and a timeout.
2.) Before the foul on Lebron, he takes three strides before going up with the shot. It looked like something wasn't right in real time as he covered a lot of ground, but it's most obvious when you watch the replay after the technical foul as OT started. I did not go through the 14 pages of this thread but I did read a lot but no mention of this. So in terms of respect, would Pat Beverly gotten the same grace on his way to the hoop?
3.) The Lakers lost the game because of the Tatum call. If we just want to disregard the traveling call as "everybody does it" then you also disregard the time on the clock the Celtics would have had ( if you call the Tatum foul and disregard the travel). You also assume the Lakers had no chance of winning the game in overtime.
4. Conspiracy theory- the calls always go against my team. We are all biased in favor or our team, but do we really think this is happening or is it just out own bias.
5.) Can we now consider changing the rules on winning challenges and if you get it right you don't lose your challenge? The Tatum play was not challengeable. Should this change on obvious calls?


Lebron took a gather step

"A gather step refers to an extra third step that a player can make after picking up their dribble. In the NBA the count begins with the first step taken after a player has stopped dribbling. This first step is often referred to as the “zero” step, with two additional steps being allowed afterward."

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Lebron picks up the ball in the middle of his first step, thus is allowed two steps afterwards.
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Re: Is LeBron the most disrespected star in getting calls? 

Post#302 » by KO7 » Sun Jan 29, 2023 10:44 pm

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lmao never in my life have I seen this type of **** from any league


Is this satire?


It certainly sounds dramatic, sarcastic, and corny enough that it might just be mocking those who are upset about the non-call. This “apology” makes them look even worse TBH.
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Re: Is LeBron the most disrespected star in getting calls? 

Post#303 » by Scoundreldays » Sun Jan 29, 2023 10:47 pm

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lmao never in my life have I seen this type of **** from any league


Is this satire?


It certainly sounds dramatic, sarcastic, and corny enough that it might just be mocking those who are upset about the non-call. This “apology” makes them look even worse TBH.

Well I guess all the sleepness nights explain why the refs have been so awful this season. They can't keep their eyes open due to being exausted. :lol:
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Re: Is LeBron the most disrespected star in getting calls? 

Post#304 » by Patsfan1081 » Sun Jan 29, 2023 10:48 pm

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:noway: :noway: This is just getting ridiculous now….. You could nit pick a million things that happen in a game that would favor a team. Now we’re complaining about jump balls…..Lebron has gone to to the free throw line more than anyone in the history of the game, prob two minutes into the next game he’ll get a favorable call that should have went the other way. It happens to every team. If someone wants to give a stat that shows it has happened to their team more often this year you could prob go back to a previous year that shows the opposite. According to fans there hasnt been one single game in the history of basketball that was reffed fairly.


No matter how you want to slice it that no call in the final seconds on what would have been the game winning shot should never happen in an nba game in a million years. It simply should never ever happen. What we want to construe from it happening as fans is another thing but its somewhat disingenuous for you to act like some other call in the 1st qtr of another game magically makes up for it.


So a foul two minutes in is less important? That makes no sense. It also does happen quite a lot. Celtic fans never stopped complaining over the Butler game winner over Smart that replay showed Smart never touched him. We just forget about it a week later.

Also never made any argument about any other call….Complaining about the refs in any instance is silly as theyve always been the same and will continue to be.
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Re: Is LeBron the most disrespected star in getting calls? 

Post#305 » by levon » Sun Jan 29, 2023 10:50 pm

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This was pretty egregious too. I don't know if it's "rigged", but this is unacceptable. He threw it right to Horford. On the jump ball to start the game, Horford didn't even jump, and that was against Thomas Bryant.

Ironically an equally terrible jump ball was thrown in the Mavs game they lost when Wood fouled LeBron too.



:noway: :noway: This is just getting ridiculous now….. You could nit pick a million things that happen in a game that would favor a team. Now we’re complaining about jump balls…..Lebron has gone to to the free throw line more than anyone in the history of the game, prob two minutes into the next game he’ll get a favorable call that should have went the other way. It happens to every team. If someone wants to give a stat that shows it has happened to their team more often this year you could prob go back to a previous year that shows the opposite. According to fans there hasnt been one single game in the history of basketball that was reffed fairly.

You're welcome to share examples of the Celtics getting shafted too. I'm not saying the Lakers are being disproportionately affected all-time or that the Celtics didn't deserve the win. I'm saying this is unacceptable and egregious officiating.
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Re: Is LeBron the most disrespected star in getting calls? 

Post#306 » by Karate Diop » Sun Jan 29, 2023 10:50 pm

Patsfan1081 wrote:
Cavsfansince84 wrote:
Patsfan1081 wrote:
:noway: :noway: This is just getting ridiculous now….. You could nit pick a million things that happen in a game that would favor a team. Now we’re complaining about jump balls…..Lebron has gone to to the free throw line more than anyone in the history of the game, prob two minutes into the next game he’ll get a favorable call that should have went the other way. It happens to every team. If someone wants to give a stat that shows it has happened to their team more often this year you could prob go back to a previous year that shows the opposite. According to fans there hasnt been one single game in the history of basketball that was reffed fairly.


No matter how you want to slice it that no call in the final seconds on what would have been the game winning shot should never happen in an nba game in a million years. It simply should never ever happen. What we want to construe from it happening as fans is another thing but its somewhat disingenuous for you to act like some other call in the 1st qtr of another game magically makes up for it.


So a foul two minutes in is less important? That makes no sense. It also does happen quite a lot. Celtic fans never stopped complaining over the Butler game winner over Smart that replay showed Smart never touched him. We just forget about it a week later.

Also never made any argument about any other call….Complaining about the refs in any instance is silly as theyve always been the same and will continue to be.


When you're consistently benefiting from these calls it's much easier for you to let one go...
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Re: Is LeBron the most disrespected star in getting calls? 

Post#307 » by Bolts » Sun Jan 29, 2023 10:51 pm

Not reading this whole thread but he spent the majority of his career getting the BENEFIT of some really bad calls.
At this point he should just STFU.
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Post#308 » by Flash Falcon X » Sun Jan 29, 2023 11:02 pm

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I sense a lot of sarcasm LMAO. you know the refs don’t give a damn that they helped Boston win. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Is LeBron the most disrespected star in getting calls? 

Post#309 » by Lockdown504090 » Sun Jan 29, 2023 11:07 pm

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I sense a lot of sarcasm LMAO. you know the refs don’t give a damn that they helped Boston win. :lol: :lol: :lol:

so they decided to be refs just for the money? of course they care. You cant make it to the nba without caring. its not like playing and you can have some genetic advantage. They work hard AF to get where they are.
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Re: Is LeBron the most disrespected star in getting calls? 

Post#310 » by Flash Falcon X » Sun Jan 29, 2023 11:08 pm

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celtxman wrote:There are a few things going on I this thread
1.) The Tatum hit on Lebron's arm. It seems most people agree that it was a foul, and it cost them winning the game in regulation. So if we agree it was a foul, then we need to put 1.5 seconds on the clock, Lebron likely hits at least one and the Celtics likely have 1.5 seconds and a timeout.
2.) Before the foul on Lebron, he takes three strides before going up with the shot. It looked like something wasn't right in real time as he covered a lot of ground, but it's most obvious when you watch the replay after the technical foul as OT started. I did not go through the 14 pages of this thread but I did read a lot but no mention of this. So in terms of respect, would Pat Beverly gotten the same grace on his way to the hoop?
3.) The Lakers lost the game because of the Tatum call. If we just want to disregard the traveling call as "everybody does it" then you also disregard the time on the clock the Celtics would have had ( if you call the Tatum foul and disregard the travel). You also assume the Lakers had no chance of winning the game in overtime.
4. Conspiracy theory- the calls always go against my team. We are all biased in favor or our team, but do we really think this is happening or is it just out own bias.
5.) Can we now consider changing the rules on winning challenges and if you get it right you don't lose your challenge? The Tatum play was not challengeable. Should this change on obvious calls?


Lebron took a gather step

"A gather step refers to an extra third step that a player can make after picking up their dribble. In the NBA the count begins with the first step taken after a player has stopped dribbling. This first step is often referred to as the “zero” step, with two additional steps being allowed afterward."

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Lebron picks up the ball in the middle of his first step, thus is allowed two steps afterwards.


Lol it’s amazing how many people still don’t know this.

And it’s usually always someone who never played basketball who’s calling these drives a travel.

Also I’m one of the biggest LeBron haters seeing my Warriors go against him for years and years and years and even more of a Lakers hater because I grew up with Lakers fans in Cali always showboating when GSW was bad, but even I’m defending LeBron and the Lakers in this game due to how horrible the refs were and how they blatantly favored Boston. This is how bad the refs are in Boston. :lol:
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Re: Is LeBron the most disrespected star in getting calls? 

Post#311 » by Lockdown504090 » Sun Jan 29, 2023 11:17 pm

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celtxman wrote:There are a few things going on I this thread
1.) The Tatum hit on Lebron's arm. It seems most people agree that it was a foul, and it cost them winning the game in regulation. So if we agree it was a foul, then we need to put 1.5 seconds on the clock, Lebron likely hits at least one and the Celtics likely have 1.5 seconds and a timeout.
2.) Before the foul on Lebron, he takes three strides before going up with the shot. It looked like something wasn't right in real time as he covered a lot of ground, but it's most obvious when you watch the replay after the technical foul as OT started. I did not go through the 14 pages of this thread but I did read a lot but no mention of this. So in terms of respect, would Pat Beverly gotten the same grace on his way to the hoop?
3.) The Lakers lost the game because of the Tatum call. If we just want to disregard the traveling call as "everybody does it" then you also disregard the time on the clock the Celtics would have had ( if you call the Tatum foul and disregard the travel). You also assume the Lakers had no chance of winning the game in overtime.
4. Conspiracy theory- the calls always go against my team. We are all biased in favor or our team, but do we really think this is happening or is it just out own bias.
5.) Can we now consider changing the rules on winning challenges and if you get it right you don't lose your challenge? The Tatum play was not challengeable. Should this change on obvious calls?


Lebron took a gather step

"A gather step refers to an extra third step that a player can make after picking up their dribble. In the NBA the count begins with the first step taken after a player has stopped dribbling. This first step is often referred to as the “zero” step, with two additional steps being allowed afterward."

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Lebron picks up the ball in the middle of his first step, thus is allowed two steps afterwards.


Lol it’s amazing how many people still don’t know this.

And it’s usually always someone who never played basketball who’s calling these drives a travel.

Also I’m one of the biggest LeBron haters seeing my Warriors go against him for years and years and years and even more of a Lakers hater because I grew up with Lakers fans in Cali always showboating when GSW was bad, but even I’m defending LeBron and the Lakers in this game due to how horrible the refs were and how they blatantly favored Boston. This is how bad the refs are in Boston. :lol:

i get why. In high school bb those are travels. there isnt a gather step allowed. in fiba there is, and college too. but respectfully, ppl on this board are too old to have been part of the skilled generation of players, or just never played past high school so and go off the rules they played with. people from other countries though, 0 excuse for not knowing.
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Re: Is LeBron the most disrespected star in getting calls? 

Post#312 » by heatwillbeback » Sun Jan 29, 2023 11:20 pm

The refs tweet might be the dumbest stuff I have ever seen.

Do the 2 minute report. No need to say another word.

Sleepless nights? LMAO.

It was a bad call but no need to bow to Lebron and beg for forgiveness.

And I have no respect for Lebron's reaction either. 20 year vet acting like a child.
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Re: Is LeBron the most disrespected star in getting calls? 

Post#313 » by shangrila » Sun Jan 29, 2023 11:37 pm

MoneyMo wrote:
celtxman wrote:There are a few things going on I this thread
1.) The Tatum hit on Lebron's arm. It seems most people agree that it was a foul, and it cost them winning the game in regulation. So if we agree it was a foul, then we need to put 1.5 seconds on the clock, Lebron likely hits at least one and the Celtics likely have 1.5 seconds and a timeout.
2.) Before the foul on Lebron, he takes three strides before going up with the shot. It looked like something wasn't right in real time as he covered a lot of ground, but it's most obvious when you watch the replay after the technical foul as OT started. I did not go through the 14 pages of this thread but I did read a lot but no mention of this. So in terms of respect, would Pat Beverly gotten the same grace on his way to the hoop?
3.) The Lakers lost the game because of the Tatum call. If we just want to disregard the traveling call as "everybody does it" then you also disregard the time on the clock the Celtics would have had ( if you call the Tatum foul and disregard the travel). You also assume the Lakers had no chance of winning the game in overtime.
4. Conspiracy theory- the calls always go against my team. We are all biased in favor or our team, but do we really think this is happening or is it just out own bias.
5.) Can we now consider changing the rules on winning challenges and if you get it right you don't lose your challenge? The Tatum play was not challengeable. Should this change on obvious calls?


Lebron took a gather step

"A gather step refers to an extra third step that a player can make after picking up their dribble. In the NBA the count begins with the first step taken after a player has stopped dribbling. This first step is often referred to as the “zero” step, with two additional steps being allowed afterward."

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Lebron picks up the ball in the middle of his first step, thus is allowed two steps afterwards.

This is not directed at you, but that's got to be some of the dumbest **** I've read in a while.
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Post#314 » by PierceFan4ever » Sun Jan 29, 2023 11:41 pm

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Post#315 » by monopoman » Sun Jan 29, 2023 11:48 pm

VanWest82 wrote:Lebron isn’t disrespected. There is no conspiracy. That non-call was bad but I also think you need need more than a love tap to get a whistle on the last play of the game.


What's hilarious is the notion that LBJ is the only player that has ever had a missed call in his life. That a player like KD or Jokic always get to the FT line in that same situation.

Every player that has spent a long time in the NBA has a long list of missed calls, and they also have a long list of favorable calls that they typically won't bring up. You won't ever see Dwayne Wade talk about this call that was a huge gift for him on a completely ridiculous supposed foul. This also was even more egregious because the game was extremely close with only a few minutes left in the game.



This **** has been going on both ways for the entirety of the NBA.
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Post#316 » by mattyj » Mon Jan 30, 2023 12:24 am

That would've been an ejection for anyone else, the way he carried on, so no to the op's question, he is not

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Post#317 » by Johnny Bball » Mon Jan 30, 2023 12:36 am

Its the last few seconds... make the basket and don't look to make the official decide it.
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Post#318 » by NyKnicks1714 » Mon Jan 30, 2023 12:44 am

Johnny Bball wrote:Its the last few seconds... make the basket and don't look to make the official decide it.


When Tatum whacks LeBron on the arm, he's decided it, not the refs. When the refs ignore that contact, they've decided it.
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Post#319 » by Johnny Bball » Mon Jan 30, 2023 12:47 am

NyKnicks1714 wrote:
Johnny Bball wrote:Its the last few seconds... make the basket and don't look to make the official decide it.


When Tatum whacks LeBron on the arm, he's decided it, not the refs. When the refs ignore that contact, they've decided it.


No. Maybe you see that happen with whatever team you like, but I don't. You have to hammer the guy to get a call in the last few seconds. Play through the contact, make the basket, don't make the refs decide ticky tacky **** for the game. And I don't want to see it another way.
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Re: Is LeBron the most disrespected star in getting calls? 

Post#320 » by NyKnicks1714 » Mon Jan 30, 2023 12:48 am

Johnny Bball wrote:
NyKnicks1714 wrote:
Johnny Bball wrote:Its the last few seconds... make the basket and don't look to make the official decide it.


When Tatum whacks LeBron on the arm, he's decided it, not the refs. When the refs ignore that contact, they've decided it.


No. Maybe you see that happen with whatever team you like, but I don't. You have to hammer the guy to get a call in the last few seconds. Play through the contact, don't make the refs decide ticky tacky **** for the game.


Lol, if you think that's a ticky tack foul then I don't know what to tell you. Start by playing or watching some basketball maybe?

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