Is LeBron the most disrespected star in getting calls?

[Cavsfansince84]

Its the last few seconds... make the basket and don't look to make the official decide it.

He had the defense beat for an easy layup at that point. Is making a layup really trying to leave it in the hands of the officials? I would say not. Tatum did the only thing he could do to stop it which was to slap down on his arm as he released the ball. If the officials can't be trusted to make a call like that then why even have them in the first place.

[CS707]

There are a few things going on I this thread
1.) The Tatum hit on Lebron's arm. It seems most people agree that it was a foul, and it cost them winning the game in regulation. So if we agree it was a foul, then we need to put 1.5 seconds on the clock, Lebron likely hits at least one and the Celtics likely have 1.5 seconds and a timeout.
2.) Before the foul on Lebron, he takes three strides before going up with the shot. It looked like something wasn't right in real time as he covered a lot of ground, but it's most obvious when you watch the replay after the technical foul as OT started. I did not go through the 14 pages of this thread but I did read a lot but no mention of this. So in terms of respect, would Pat Beverly gotten the same grace on his way to the hoop?
3.) The Lakers lost the game because of the Tatum call. If we just want to disregard the traveling call as "everybody does it" then you also disregard the time on the clock the Celtics would have had ( if you call the Tatum foul and disregard the travel). You also assume the Lakers had no chance of winning the game in overtime.
4. Conspiracy theory- the calls always go against my team. We are all biased in favor or our team, but do we really think this is happening or is it just out own bias.
5.) Can we now consider changing the rules on winning challenges and if you get it right you don't lose your challenge? The Tatum play was not challengeable. Should this change on obvious calls?

Lebron took a gather step

"A gather step refers to an extra third step that a player can make after picking up their dribble. In the NBA the count begins with the first step taken after a player has stopped dribbling. This first step is often referred to as the “zero” step, with two additional steps being allowed afterward."

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Lebron picks up the ball in the middle of his first step, thus is allowed two steps afterwards.

Lol it’s amazing how many people still don’t know this.

And it’s usually always someone who never played basketball who’s calling these drives a travel.

It’s been a few years but unless things have changed, gather steps aren’t a thing in youth and college ball so perhaps the ones calling it a travel are actually the ones that have played basketball.

[PierceFan4ever]

The refs tweet might be the dumbest stuff I have ever seen.

Do the 2 minute report. No need to say another word.

Sleepless nights? LMAO.

It was a bad call but no need to bow to Lebron and beg for forgiveness.

And I have no respect for Lebron's reaction either. 20 year vet acting like a child.

Embarrassing, you’re better off saying nothing. If that was Westbrook instead of Lebron there won’t be nearly a quarter of the attention what Lebron generated and acting like a little kid on the ground. Sleepless nights

[The Corey's]

Yes man, it's crazy that the ref missed that 3 step travel by lebron.

That really would of infuriated him had they called that one.

[Heej]

Lebron took a gather step

"A gather step refers to an extra third step that a player can make after picking up their dribble. In the NBA the count begins with the first step taken after a player has stopped dribbling. This first step is often referred to as the “zero” step, with two additional steps being allowed afterward."

Read on Twitter

Lebron picks up the ball in the middle of his first step, thus is allowed two steps afterwards.

Lol it’s amazing how many people still don’t know this.

And it’s usually always someone who never played basketball who’s calling these drives a travel.

It’s been a few years but unless things have changed, gather steps aren’t a thing in youth and college ball so perhaps the ones calling it a travel are actually the ones that have played basketball.

They give give you gather steps just like the NBA and FIBA does lmao. Non Hoopers exposing themselves online all day today

[Johnny Bball]

When Tatum whacks LeBron on the arm, he's decided it, not the refs. When the refs ignore that contact, they've decided it.

No. Maybe you see that happen with whatever team you like, but I don't. You have to hammer the guy to get a call in the last few seconds. Play through the contact, don't make the refs decide ticky tacky **** for the game.

Lol, if you think that's a ticky tack foul then I don't know what to tell you. Start by playing or watching some basketball maybe?

What part of hammer or ticky tacky is hard for you to understand?

And I've watched more basketball than you ever possibly could have, which is why I don't feel entitled in general, or feel entitled to that call as a fan. But please... tell me more abotu how you know everything basketball over the generations as its so very compelling to me.

[The Corey's]

Lebron is top 5 ever in the history of the entire game at getting fouls.

His retirement can't come soon enough.

[heatwillbeback]

Nets getting hosed tomorrow for sure.

The unlucky team to face the Lakers next.

Nba refs already showed how ready they are to grovel.

[NyKnicks1714]

No. Maybe you see that happen with whatever team you like, but I don't. You have to hammer the guy to get a call in the last few seconds. Play through the contact, don't make the refs decide ticky tacky **** for the game.

Lol, if you think that's a ticky tack foul then I don't know what to tell you. Start by playing or watching some basketball maybe?

What part of hammer or ticky tacky is hard for you to understand?

And I've watched more basketball than you ever possibly could have, which is why I don't feel entitled in general, or feel entitled to that call as a fan. But please... tell me more abotu how you know everything basketball over the generations as its so very compelling to me.

I think a whack on the arm on a shot attempt is a foul. Agree to disagree.

[celtxman]

There are a few things going on I this thread
1.) The Tatum hit on Lebron's arm. It seems most people agree that it was a foul, and it cost them winning the game in regulation. So if we agree it was a foul, then we need to put 1.5 seconds on the clock, Lebron likely hits at least one and the Celtics likely have 1.5 seconds and a timeout.
2.) Before the foul on Lebron, he takes three strides before going up with the shot. It looked like something wasn't right in real time as he covered a lot of ground, but it's most obvious when you watch the replay after the technical foul as OT started. I did not go through the 14 pages of this thread but I did read a lot but no mention of this. So in terms of respect, would Pat Beverly gotten the same grace on his way to the hoop?
3.) The Lakers lost the game because of the Tatum call. If we just want to disregard the traveling call as "everybody does it" then you also disregard the time on the clock the Celtics would have had ( if you call the Tatum foul and disregard the travel). You also assume the Lakers had no chance of winning the game in overtime.
4. Conspiracy theory- the calls always go against my team. We are all biased in favor or our team, but do we really think this is happening or is it just out own bias.
5.) Can we now consider changing the rules on winning challenges and if you get it right you don't lose your challenge? The Tatum play was not challengeable. Should this change on obvious calls?

Lebron took a gather step

"A gather step refers to an extra third step that a player can make after picking up their dribble. In the NBA the count begins with the first step taken after a player has stopped dribbling. This first step is often referred to as the “zero” step, with two additional steps being allowed afterward."

Read on Twitter

Lebron picks up the ball in the middle of his first step, thus is allowed two steps afterwards.

Thank you for the correction on my post MoneyMo on the travel rule. It seems ridiculous that a player moves both feet while standing still and takes two steps and it's travelling (that is almost always called) yet you take three steps on a drive and it's good. But the rule is black and white and I was wrong on that point.

[CS707]

Lol it’s amazing how many people still don’t know this.

And it’s usually always someone who never played basketball who’s calling these drives a travel.

It’s been a few years but unless things have changed, gather steps aren’t a thing in youth and college ball so perhaps the ones calling it a travel are actually the ones that have played basketball.

They give give you gather steps just like the NBA and FIBA does lmao. Non Hoopers exposing themselves online all day today

So the rule is the same for the lower levels as the NBA/FIBA? That’s what you’re telling me?

[Goomba3666]

Lebron and the sports media bringing the NBA to its knees is embarrassing af.

Seeing as this comes AFTER him rolling around on the ground like a toddler on national television, I think the NBA refs will regret that tweet.

Why cave to a 13th seed like that? Lol

[Kingdibs19]

Watch on YouTube

Meanwhile the tough whistle Jordan got.

[Heej]

It’s been a few years but unless things have changed, gather steps aren’t a thing in youth and college ball so perhaps the ones calling it a travel are actually the ones that have played basketball.

They give give you gather steps just like the NBA and FIBA does lmao. Non Hoopers exposing themselves online all day today

So the rule is the same for the lower levels as the NBA/FIBA? That’s what you’re telling me?

Go watch a Bronny highschool game highlight reel and you tell me if they're calling travels on gather steps . Non Hooper activities in this thread and on Twitter

[Heej]

Lebron and the sports media bringing the NBA to its knees is embarrassing af.

Seeing as this comes AFTER him rolling around on the ground like a toddler on national television, I think the NBA refs will regret that tweet.

Why cave to a 13th seed like that? Lol

Unpopular opinion here, but perhaps consider being good at your job first?

[CS707]

They give give you gather steps just like the NBA and FIBA does lmao. Non Hoopers exposing themselves online all day today

So the rule is the same for the lower levels as the NBA/FIBA? That’s what you’re telling me?

Go watch a Bronny highschool game highlight reel and you tell me if they're calling travels on gather steps . Non Hooper activities in this thread and on Twitter

Is it legal or not? It’s a pretty simple question.

[Heej]

So the rule is the same for the lower levels as the NBA/FIBA? That’s what you’re telling me?

Go watch a Bronny highschool game highlight reel and you tell me if they're calling travels on gather steps . Non Hooper activities in this thread and on Twitter

Is it legal or not? It’s a pretty simple question.

Doesn't matter if it's legal, all that matters is what the refs call. If you don't actually play ball just say that

[Tor_Raps]

No, strong players have always had it harder than weak players. I hate this about the NBA. A foul is a foul and you shouldn't get treated differently based on your strength.

Like when a strong player posts up a weak player who just falls back. It should be your fault for being too damn weak to withstand the contact.

[xchange55]

Fouls get missed all the time - ever seen one of those 2 minute reviews https://official.nba.com/2022-23-nba-officiating-last-two-minute-reports/? They are full of incorrect calls and this is ONLY the last 2 minutes of the game - imagine they reviewed the entire game. I mean you pretty much just have to live with it.

There shouldn't be so much focus on it being the last play of regulation and potentially costing the game. Hypothetically there could have been 3 missed calls on the C's earlier in the game, and just 1 on LAL. In that case, the missed call in the end should not have mattered if the game was called to perfection.

[CS707]

Go watch a Bronny highschool game highlight reel and you tell me if they're calling travels on gather steps . Non Hooper activities in this thread and on Twitter

Is it legal or not? It’s a pretty simple question.

Doesn't matter if it's legal, all that matters is what the refs call. If you don't actually play ball just say that

It absolutely matters if it’s legal in context of the discussion. If you’re going to call out people that don’t understand the distinction of why it’s legal in the NBA on the basis of them “not being hoopers” then you’d better be sure the rule is consistent in the leagues the majority of the board likely has experience playing in. The reason people struggle with it is, in fact, because the rule is different than what they grew up with. For all your childish internet posturing it’s pretty clear it’s you that’s not a hooper.