Using Numbers To Find The Greatest Individual Season In NBA History

TheNG · Post #1 » by **TheNG** » Sun Jan 29, 2023 9:58 pm

Using Numbers To Find The Greatest Individual Season In NBA History:

Inetesting video.
Do you agree?

Post #2 » by **og15** » Sun Jan 29, 2023 10:08 pm

TheNG wrote:Using Numbers To Find The Greatest Individual Season In NBA History:

Watch on YouTube

Inetesting video.
Do you agree?

It's certainly a fun exercise, and not a bad "combination" way of answering the question, props to the person for taking the time

hauntedcomputer · Post #3 » by **hauntedcomputer** » Sun Jan 29, 2023 10:35 pm

Let's ignore 60s & 70s and playoffs and see who was best?
OKee.

Post #4 » by **og15** » Sun Jan 29, 2023 11:06 pm

hauntedcomputer wrote:Let's ignore 60s & 70s and playoffs and see who was best?
OKee.

They gave their parameters, so whatever . Best individual regular season since the 80's is the question being answered.

Plossum · Post #5 » by **Plossum** » Sun Jan 29, 2023 11:57 pm

Makes sense. I think for us middle aged/older folk who were around to see MJ's run up to his first three peat, he was just an incredible player and I haven't seen anyone come close since.

Kobe187 · Post #6 » by **Kobe187** » Mon Jan 30, 2023 12:22 am

87-93 Jordan is indescribable, best ever and it’s not even close.

PistolPeteJR · Post #7 » by **PistolPeteJR** » Mon Jan 30, 2023 12:54 am

I thought his criteria was terrible. Defense barely taken into consideration, and ASG MVP rather than regular MVP lol??

ceiling raiser · Post #8 » by **ceiling raiser** » Mon Jan 30, 2023 12:57 am

Without +/- data prior to 96-97 aside from some spotty league wide data from 93-94 through 95-96 and the Sixers/opponents data from the preceding 20 years this is a tough exercise. The box score only tells you how good someone is at accumulating box score stats.

Post #9 » by **Clav** » Mon Jan 30, 2023 1:13 am

When I watched through a few minutes, I was left thinking that stats are like different colours of paint, and the argument is the canvas.

NoDopeOnSundays · Post #10 » by **NoDopeOnSundays** » Mon Jan 30, 2023 1:15 am

Plossum wrote:Makes sense. I think for us middle aged/older folk who were around to see MJ's run up to his first three peat, he was just an incredible player and I haven't seen anyone come close since.

I think Kawhi for that short period with the Raptors is as close as anyone has gotten in terms of just dominating on both sides of the ball.

CodeBreaker · Post #11 » by **CodeBreaker** » Mon Jan 30, 2023 1:23 am

Eye test says 2016 Curry

Vox Populi · Post #12 » by **Vox Populi** » Mon Jan 30, 2023 2:07 am

Awesome video!

Some follow up observations to seeing information like this is:

A) How did Steve Nash and Tim Duncan win 2 MVPs each when they never had a Top 50 season?

B) This type of information makes it easier to argue a case for Curry, Jokic, Giannis and Luka in the All-Time Top 10 when they are done playing, over some of the old legends who never had a Top 50 season (Magic, Bird and Duncan). Jokic over Bird, Giannis over Duncan, Curry or Luka over Magic.

Fans of the younger guys should take note and use these arguments.

bstein14 · Post #13 » by **bstein14** » Mon Jan 30, 2023 2:13 am

Having the all-star MVP mean something makes this entire analysis pretty crap.

That said, I agree late 80s and early 90s Jordan is the highest 5 to 6 year peak prime of all time.

Giannis the last 5 years, Jokic the last 3 years have also likely had top 10 stretches of peak/prime in NBA history as well.

Jordan
Giannis
Jokic
2008 - 2013 LeBron
early 90s David Robinson
early 2000s Shaq
Mid to Late 70s Kareem

Myth · Post #14 » by **Myth** » Mon Jan 30, 2023 2:28 am

25 year old Joel Freeland. NBA is lucky he went back overseas to end his reign of terror on the Nearly Basketball Association.

Vox Populi · Post #15 » by **Vox Populi** » Mon Jan 30, 2023 2:28 am

bstein14 wrote:Having the all-star MVP mean something makes this entire analysis pretty crap.

I think allotting 5 points for All-Star MVP was odd too. It only adds 5 points though, which does not seem to really impact the list. For example:

A) The 5 points is not going to make Lebron's highest score of 130.2 catch Michael Jordan's 154.8.

B) David Robinson and James Harden have 4 appearances on the list. Hakeem Olajuwon, Chris Paul and Nikola Jokic have 2 appearances. None of these guys were ever an All-Star MVP.

C) The highest score for KG, Kobe and Giannis came in seasons when they were not the All-Star MVP.

Optms · Post #16 » by **Optms** » Mon Jan 30, 2023 2:33 am

2016 Curry would have threatened Jordan if it wasn't for LeGOAT getting in his way.

Vox Populi · Post #17 » by **Vox Populi** » Mon Jan 30, 2023 2:37 am

Optms wrote:2016 Curry would have threatened Jordan if it wasn't for LeGOAT getting in his way.

Jordan has 11 seasons on the list.
Lebron has 5 seasons on the list.
11 > 5

Jordan has 5 of the top 7 seasons on the list.
Lebron's highest season is #8 in the list.
1, 2, 5, 6, 7 > 8

Jordan's highest score is 154.8.
Lebron's highest score is 130.2.
154.8. > 130.2

154.8/130.2 = 119% = Jordan's highest season was 19% better than Lebron's highest.

The one true GOAT rules them all.

Optms · Post #18 » by **Optms** » Mon Jan 30, 2023 2:40 am

Vox Populi wrote:
Optms wrote:2016 Curry would have threatened Jordan if it wasn't for LeGOAT getting in his way.

Jordan has 11 seasons on the list.
Lebron has 5 seasons on the list.
11 > 5

Jordan has 5 of the top 7 seasons on the list.
Lebron's highest season is #8 in the list.
1, 2, 5, 6, 7 > 8

Jordan's highest score is 154.8.
Lebron's highest score is 130.2.
154.8. > 130.2

154.8/130.2 = 119% = Jordan's highest season was 19% better than Lebron's highest.

The one true GOAT rules them all.

OT but Westbrook has the 17th greatest peak. Goes to show you how underappreciated his prime has become.

Vox Populi · Post #19 » by **Vox Populi** » Mon Jan 30, 2023 2:42 am

Optms wrote:OT but Westbrook has the 17th greatest peak. Goes to show you how underappreciated his prime has become.

Fair point. I think Westbrook tainted his own image by chasing rebounds and assists though. Then everyone caught on to it after Colin Cowherd had a segment on how Russ was doing it.

warriorschamps · Post #20 » by **warriorschamps** » Mon Jan 30, 2023 2:42 am

Terrible take and video. For instance Magic rightfully won the 1989 MVP. At that point Jordan was still trying to learn how to play team ball. The Pistons basically mocked and laughed at him for not being able to get the ball to open teammates on time. But people who were only looking at stats and not watching games don't know that.

And did this dude really say he will count the all star MVP but not the league or Finals MVP? lol

Like what? This is just bad all around.