Better player Right now? Kyrie Irving, Dame, Ja Morant

mdonnelly1989 · Post #1 » by **mdonnelly1989** » Mon Jan 30, 2023 6:35 am

Better player Right now?

SpreeS · Post #2 » by **SpreeS** » Mon Jan 30, 2023 11:57 am

Easy Dame

mdonnelly1989 · Post #3 » by **mdonnelly1989** » Tue Jan 31, 2023 6:04 am

SpreeS wrote:Easy Dame

Easy?

mdonnelly1989 · Post #4 » by **mdonnelly1989** » Tue Jan 31, 2023 2:23 pm

I generally have Kyrie outside of the top 10 usually somewhere in the top 15-20 range. However, its hard to ignore his production this year especially late in the 4th Quarters.

Right now Kyrie is playing as a borderline top 10 player in the league. And since I have had Ja the last 2 seasons as a top 10 player they are awfully close.

Dame has been playing well. And generally speaking a top 2 or 3 PG in the league the last 5 seasons. He's right there in the mix as well, but Idk if he's still playing like he was 2 - 4 seasons ago. That Dame was a top 10 player in the league.

In either case, all 3 players are playing around a 92/100. And all very close to each other in terms of overall skill/impact.

Colbinii · Post #5 » by **Colbinii** » Tue Jan 31, 2023 3:49 pm

Pretty easily Dame at this point.

Ja leading the poll is a joke.

Post #6 » by **Outside** » Tue Jan 31, 2023 5:42 pm

Kyrie has no case unless you ignore that he a) has brought disruption and bad feelings to every team he has played for; and b) hasn't shown he can successfully be a number one player. That is in sharp contrast to Dame and Ja, who have been model franchise centerpieces.

This season to date, Kyrie and Durant have both played 39 games and missed 11. In the 11 games Durant has missed, the Nets are 5-6. In the 11 games Kyrie has missed, the Nets are 7-4. They both missed two of those games, and the Nets were 1-1 in those games. Durant is the clear number one player on the Nets.

Box score stats for this season.

Points - Dame 30.4, Ja 27.3, Kyrie 27.3
Assists - Ja 8.2, Dame 7.3, Kyrie 5.3
Rebounds - Ja 5.7, Kyrie 5.1, Dame 3.9
Steals - Kyrie 1.1, Ja 1.0, Dame 0.9
TS% - Dame .640, Kyrie .605, Ja .556
VORP - Dame 3.0, Ja 2.8, Kyrie 2.1
BPM - Dame 6.7, Ja 6.0, Kyrie 3.8
WS/48 - Dame .221, Ja .160, Kyrie .156

Impact stats
RAPTOR - Dame 7.0, Kyrie 6.2, Ja 4.9
LEBRON - Dame 3.56, Ja 3.38, Kyrie 2.42
EPM - Dame 6.6, Kyrie 5.1, Ja 4.5

Dame seems to have a pretty clear advantage.

Bank Shot · Post #7 » by **Bank Shot** » Tue Jan 31, 2023 11:56 pm

Dame > Kyrie > Ja

Vox Populi · Post #8 » by **Vox Populi** » Wed Feb 1, 2023 12:13 am

I'm going with JaM! He has completely turned around the fortunes of the Grizzlies since being drafted. Dame is not doing the same anymore. The last time the Trailblazers had a record as good as the Grizzlies was back in 2018-19. That is a long time ago!

Kyrie has more talent than the other two but his other antics have hurt his teams.

Gooner · Post #9 » by **Gooner** » Wed Feb 1, 2023 8:07 am

I would have to say Kyrie. He is doing everything right now for the Nets, scoring, playmaking, defending and most importantly he is focused on the game. His skillset speaks for itself, there is nothing Dame does better than Kyrie. Ja is good, but he is nowhere near the shooter as Kyrie. Ja can handle and has a great layup package, but Kyrie is on another level. Kyrie's playmaking is underrated also because he draws so much attention. It's just about his mindset, whether he commits to being a playmaker or he falls into too much hero ball. Right now he is as committed as he has ever been.

McBubbles · Post #10 » by **McBubbles** » Wed Feb 1, 2023 8:07 pm

Vox Populi wrote:I'm going with JaM! He has completely turned around the fortunes of the Grizzlies since being drafted. Dame is not doing the same anymore. The last time the Trailblazers had a record as good as the Grizzlies was back in 2018-19. That is a long time ago!

Kyrie has more talent than the other two but his other antics have hurt his teams.

The Grizzlies went 20-5 without Ja Morant last year.