The Jaylen Nowell Thread

NebWolvesFan · Post #581 » by **NebWolvesFan** » Mon Jan 30, 2023 5:17 pm

He would be a good player to add to a deal. He's still young and can get off his own shot. Teams would be willing to roll the dice and see if their coaches can fix is 3-pointer. I still think Minnesota can resign him cheap this offseason. And I would do it. I still think he can help a playoff team. Bombing on a contract year helps the Timberwolves

Guest84 · Post #582 » by **Guest84** » Tue Jan 31, 2023 12:24 am

https://www.si.com/fannation/bringmethesports/.amp/timberwolves/report-jaylen-nowell-leaning-toward-leaving-timberwolves

minimus · Post #583 » by **minimus** » Tue Jan 31, 2023 7:59 am

Guest84 wrote:https://www.si.com/fannation/bringmethesports/.amp/timberwolves/report-jaylen-nowell-leaning-toward-leaving-timberwolves

Shocking!

shangrila · Post #584 » by **shangrila** » Tue Jan 31, 2023 8:20 am

Guest84 wrote:https://www.si.com/fannation/bringmethesports/.amp/timberwolves/report-jaylen-nowell-leaning-toward-leaving-timberwolves

Charania says Nowell "will be a sought after" player when the market opens in July, noting that the 23-year-old is eligible for a maximum of $58 million over four years with any team that signs him.

Nowell has flashed big-time scoring ability as a backup guard this season, but after a promising month of November in which he shot 34.6% from 3-point land he has cratered, hitting just 24 of 100 attempts from 3 since the start of December.

For the season, he's shooting 27.6% from 3, which appears to be an anomaly considering he shot 39.4% from 3 last season.

Neeva · Post #585 » by **Neeva** » Tue Jan 31, 2023 3:40 pm

Meh I am done with him, he has been given great opportunities and not delivered

Colbinii · Post #586 » by **Colbinii** » Tue Jan 31, 2023 6:13 pm

I expect him to get close to the MLE, likely tMLE which will be around $7-8 Million/Annually.

A far-cry from $58 Million over 4 years.

minimus · Post #587 » by **minimus** » Tue Jan 31, 2023 8:47 pm

Colbinii wrote:I expect him to get close to the MLE, likely tMLE which will be around $7-8 Million/Annually.

A far-cry from $58 Million over 4 years.

Even in this team he is barely better than Rivwrs who plays for vetmin

shrink · Post #588 » by **shrink** » Tue Jan 31, 2023 9:15 pm

minimus wrote:
Colbinii wrote:I expect him to get close to the MLE, likely tMLE which will be around $7-8 Million/Annually.

A far-cry from $58 Million over 4 years.

Even in this team he is barely better than Rivwrs who plays for vetmin

I agree, but Nowell’s never made any money in the league, so he can’t afford a vet min deal, or being just a helpful player. Jaylen knows scoring gets him paid. It was frustrating last game to see a few sequences where the team was passing to create an open shot, but when it got to Nowell, he jacked up a semi-guarded three and missed.

As for his contract, I don’t think it will be high at all. He offers nothing but scoring, and lately he hasn’t been positive when he does that. I’m guess 3 years for $16. I hope we don’t offer it.

BlacJacMac · Post #589 » by **BlacJacMac** » Tue Jan 31, 2023 9:15 pm

Colbinii wrote:I expect him to get close to the MLE, likely tMLE which will be around $7-8 Million/Annually.

A far-cry from $58 Million over 4 years.

Is that you, Kevin McHale?

Colbinii · Post #590 » by **Colbinii** » Tue Jan 31, 2023 9:19 pm

BlacJacMac wrote:
Colbinii wrote:I expect him to get close to the MLE, likely tMLE which will be around $7-8 Million/Annually.

A far-cry from $58 Million over 4 years.

Is that you, Kevin McHale?

No, I dont get the joke?

I never said we should pay him, I simply said what I expect him to go for.

shrink · Post #591 » by **shrink** » Tue Jan 31, 2023 9:45 pm

Klomp wrote:Nowell may have unintentionally Shabazzed himself...

I love this

shrink · Post #592 » by **shrink** » Wed Feb 1, 2023 2:12 pm

shrink wrote:As for his contract, I don’t think it will be high at all. He offers nothing but scoring, and lately he hasn’t been positive when he does that. I’m guess 3 years for $16. I hope we don’t offer it.

I just heard Keith Smith on the NBA Front Office Show predict 3 for $30, so I may be way off here.

Post #593 » by **Domejandro** » Wed Feb 1, 2023 5:17 pm

If the season ended right now, Jaylen Nowell would be looking at close-to minimum offers (think like three million range). I think you guys are drastically overshooting his worth around the NBA.

Post #594 » by **Klomp** » Wed Feb 1, 2023 7:24 pm

One thing to keep in mind, the NBA likes to pay "bucket-getters." And while Nowell isn't good at most everything else, that is one NBA skill he has at a very good level, dare I say, potentially elite at times.

People have also mentioned that this is a weaker FA class. Because of that, he might be one of the best scoring options available. And for teams over the cap, most will be willing to pay the MLE for that.

BlacJacMac · Post #595 » by **BlacJacMac** » Wed Feb 1, 2023 10:23 pm

Klomp wrote:One thing to keep in mind, the NBA likes to pay "bucket-getters." And while Nowell isn't good at most everything else, that is one NBA skill he has at a very good level, dare I say, potentially elite at times.

People have also mentioned that this is a weaker FA class. Because of that, he might be one of the best scoring options available. And for teams over the cap, most will be willing to pay the MLE for that.

I have trouble saying he's even close to elite. He's not a good 3 point shooter and he struggles to get all the way to the rim. He doesn't really break down defenses as much as take advantage of already broken ones.

He's a midrange shooter that needs space to get his shot off.

He's definitely not a guy who can consistently get you buckets.

Post #596 » by **Klomp** » Mon Feb 6, 2023 8:25 pm

I would love someone to break down Jaylen Nowell’s production difference with and without McLaughlin. I’m even thinking all the way back to his rookie year when Nowell shot 43% on 3s in Iowa but was 3-26 in Minnesota. Now I’m wondering the effect McLaughlin had on that drop.

wolves_89 · Post #597 » by **wolves_89** » Mon Feb 6, 2023 9:31 pm

It was interesting that the best game Nowell has had in quite a while happened on the first game that McLaughlin was back. I have no good reason why that would be a real thing, but I'll be happy if it is.

Post #598 » by **Klomp** » Tue Feb 7, 2023 9:11 pm

Even at his lowest with his shot, Nowell is still a threat with the ball in his hands. That's such an important skill in this era, to be a threat to shoot but also create something off the bounce. In many ways, that's what limits the longterm upside of guys like Beasley or Bryn Forbes. Deny the catch or get in their face, and that's about all you need to do as a defender.

wolves_89 · Post #599 » by **wolves_89** » Tue Feb 7, 2023 9:40 pm

If Jaylen had been able to maintain even an average 3pt shooting percentage and taken a small step forward on defense (from extremely bad to just plain poor) he would have set himself up for a pretty good payday. At this point I'm skeptical anybody will offer him the taxpayer MLE ($7M first year).

shrink · Post #600 » by **shrink** » Tue Feb 7, 2023 11:02 pm

I heard Finch on the radio today, and he pointed out that it might have been a bit unfair to Nowell to force him to play PG, simply because we were hurting at the spot.