2022-23 Season Discussion and Speculation 4 - Trade season continues - No player trade restrictions

[dremill24]

I hope Ishbia replaces Drysdale. That's item number 1 on the docket for me.

[kennydorglas]

I hope Ishbia replaces Drysdale. That's item number 1 on the docket for me.

He'll replace her with the GOAT WHEEZY

NoOnonooonoonoo....

Do it Mr. Ishbia.

[sunskerr]

Really interested to see if anything comes of the Raptors meeting. I think Ayton makes a lot of sense for that team and you know I have a man crush on Achiuwa as a replacement for him as long as there's something else coming back.

[bwgood77]

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So then expirings and a protected 1st obviously!!

waited too long and he broke out the james jones special

Yup.
Could have likely had Kuzma early in the season, DLo early in the season. Even Rui I feel is going to be primed to play very well with the Lakers IMO. If we can buy low on John Collins I'm all for it. Trade Crowder and Saric for Collins and their 2023 pick.

Those guys were not available early in the season. Those teams were trying to compete. DLo's name just came up. There was talk about whether WAS would try to keep Kuzma or not depending on how good they were. Interestestingly enough, they are bad and apparently he wants to stay (or I assume he does since WAS doesn't want to trade him so they probably have an understanding with his agent).

No thanks on Collins with that finger and the loss of being any sort of shooting threat.

He was shooting 40% on 3s in 19-20, 20-21, and 21-22 up until his injury. He comes back last year from injury and goes 2-16 from 3 and this year is at 26%.

[bwgood77]

Really interested to see if anything comes of the Raptors meeting. I think Ayton makes a lot of sense for that team and you know I have a man crush on Achiuwa as a replacement for him as long as there's something else coming back.

I think it's probably FVV (or at least that makes sense even though we were also rumored for Trent). Though FVV will be an UFA this offseason so even though an Ayton for FVV and Precious might seem like an ok deal, it doesn't make sense if he suddenly could walk. And he wants $30-$35 million a year.

Gary Trent Jr could also become an UFA or exercise a player option of over $18 million.

Jones seems like the type of GM that might trade Ayton for one of them and Precious or something but it doesn't seem like that would be wise if they are likely UFAs wanting to get paid...FVV over $30 and if GT JR turns down his player option he'd want more than $20.

I think Ayton is probably more likely to be traded this offseaason for something like Poeltl in a S&T with another player...Jones would probably rather have McDermott since he can play now over a younger guy. (Hopefully Ishbia would push for a younger guy)....or Detroit for Bojan to get a win now player, and maybe a big from them...though Bojan getting older...still more of a Jones type win now move..the 24 year old C for older player. Or maybe the best option, though not great due to Rozier's play this year, Rozier and Plumlee.

I can see those 3 moves..they make sense.

[bwoolf2]

Really interested to see if anything comes of the Raptors meeting. I think Ayton makes a lot of sense for that team and you know I have a man crush on Achiuwa as a replacement for him as long as there's something else coming back.

I think it's probably FVV (or at least that makes sense even though we were also rumored for Trent). Though FVV will be an UFA this offseason so even though an Ayton for FVV and Precious might seem like an ok deal, it doesn't make sense if he suddenly could walk. And he wants $30-$35 million a year.

Gary Trent Jr could also become an UFA or exercise a player option of over $18 million.

Jones seems like the type of GM that might trade Ayton for one of them and Precious or something but it doesn't seem like that would be wise if they are likely UFAs wanting to get paid...FVV over $30 and if GT JR turns down his player option he'd want more than $20.

I think Ayton is probably more likely to be traded this offseaason for something like Poeltl in a S&T with another player...Jones would probably rather have McDermott since he can play now over a younger guy. (Hopefully Ishbia would push for a younger guy)....or Detroit for Bojan to get a win now player, and maybe a big from them...though Bojan getting older...still more of a Jones type win now move..the 24 year old C for older player. Or maybe the best option, though not great due to Rozier's play this year, Rozier and Plumlee.

I can see those 3 moves..they make sense.

Ishbia going to be pretty hands on I don't think Jones will be able to make whatever moves he wants.

[SkyBill40]

It's hard to fathom Van Vleet get $30M annually. He's a solid player but that's pretty much superstar money and franchise foundation level compensation. I just don't see him in that vein.

[bwoolf2]

Still think a combination of these 4 players end up on the Suns

Gordon
Martin Jr
Vanderbilt
Beasley

[Slim Charless]

Really interested to see if anything comes of the Raptors meeting. I think Ayton makes a lot of sense for that team and you know I have a man crush on Achiuwa as a replacement for him as long as there's something else coming back.

I think it's probably FVV (or at least that makes sense even though we were also rumored for Trent). Though FVV will be an UFA this offseason so even though an Ayton for FVV and Precious might seem like an ok deal, it doesn't make sense if he suddenly could walk. And he wants $30-$35 million a year.

Gary Trent Jr could also become an UFA or exercise a player option of over $18 million.

Jones seems like the type of GM that might trade Ayton for one of them and Precious or something but it doesn't seem like that would be wise if they are likely UFAs wanting to get paid...FVV over $30 and if GT JR turns down his player option he'd want more than $20.

I think Ayton is probably more likely to be traded this offseaason for something like Poeltl in a S&T with another player...Jones would probably rather have McDermott since he can play now over a younger guy. (Hopefully Ishbia would push for a younger guy)....or Detroit for Bojan to get a win now player, and maybe a big from them...though Bojan getting older...still more of a Jones type win now move..the 24 year old C for older player. Or maybe the best option, though not great due to Rozier's play this year, Rozier and Plumlee.

I can see those 3 moves..they make sense.

Peotl again lol.....and you get on me about my bringing up Presti or moving Ayton for OG/Siakam/actual good players.


You are aware that Peotl is a UFA and as such will not be taking discounts. So if are we sign and trading Ayton for him, how much....

[bigfoot]

It's hard to fathom Van Vleet get $30M annually. He's a solid player but that's pretty much superstar money and franchise foundation level compensation. I just don't see him in that vein.

cough

[Jdiddy701]

It's hard to fathom Van Vleet get $30M annually. He's a solid player but that's pretty much superstar money and franchise foundation level compensation. I just don't see him in that vein.

I think he’s a solid option post Chris Paul era. He’s also a solid defender for his size. I see a lot of similarities from our current backcourt of CP3/Booker to FVV/Booker. We have to think, what other PGs will be available after Chris Paul retires? We can’t go through seasons finding that next PG while Booker is in his prime.

I can see why the Suns are interested in FVV.


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[sunskerr]

I just dont think I have the stomach for another 5'10" point guard

[Blonde]

If I had to guess, Jones is most interested in GTJ from Toronto. It’s a classic half measure move for JJ.

[Ghost of Kleine]

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I just don't think I could/would do it IF the price is Johnson and multiple picks! I wouldn't even have Johnson on the table with how good he's been since returning from injury!

[TeamTragic]

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I just don't think I could/would do it IF the price is Johnson and multiple picks! I wouldn't even have Johnson on the table with how good he's been since returning from injury!

What the ****. Absolutely not under any circumstances.

[garrick]

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I just don't think I could/would do it IF the price is Johnson and multiple picks! I wouldn't even have Johnson on the table with how good he's been since returning from injury!

Agreed Cam and multiple picks is too much for OG, I would ship Craig and maybe a couple picks at most.

[Bogyo]

Absolutely, positively hell no on the Raptors backcourt midgets - unless they take half of their current salary, which is not happening.

I'd do the OG trade with Cam+2 picks, probably not more. We need the salary going forward, OG is signed. We would only need a PG going forward, and filling out the bench. I'm good with that, especially if we can net anything for Crowder/Saric/Shamet/Craig (or even Payne if we trade for a better PG). Maybe Ishbia could buy a couple 2nds from the Thunder to fill out the bench...

[Qwigglez]

Those guys were not available early in the season. Those teams were trying to compete. DLo's name just came up. There was talk about whether WAS would try to keep Kuzma or not depending on how good they were. Interestestingly enough, they are bad and apparently he wants to stay (or I assume he does since WAS doesn't want to trade him so they probably have an understanding with his agent).

No thanks on Collins with that finger and the loss of being any sort of shooting threat.

He was shooting 40% on 3s in 19-20, 20-21, and 21-22 up until his injury. He comes back last year from injury and goes 2-16 from 3 and this year is at 26%.

Where have you heard Kuzma wants to stay with the Wizards? His name has been on the trade block since November since the Wizards have held the same fear of Kuzma opting out and becoming a free agent this summer since then. I know the Wizards don't want to trade him, but if he wants to leave I could see the Wizards wanting to get some value back.

D'Lo's name has been on the trade block since at least this summer.

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Yeah Collins finger is definitely a concern. I think that is for sure a reason the Hawks are actively looking to trade him, especially come playoff time, teams will just sag off him if he is on the 3P line. Interesting enough about Collins he is still shooting above 50% from 10-16 feet which is somewhat noteworthy.

[lilfishi22]

Really interested to see if anything comes of the Raptors meeting. I think Ayton makes a lot of sense for that team and you know I have a man crush on Achiuwa as a replacement for him as long as there's something else coming back.

I think it's probably FVV (or at least that makes sense even though we were also rumored for Trent). Though FVV will be an UFA this offseason so even though an Ayton for FVV and Precious might seem like an ok deal, it doesn't make sense if he suddenly could walk. And he wants $30-$35 million a year.

Gary Trent Jr could also become an UFA or exercise a player option of over $18 million.

Jones seems like the type of GM that might trade Ayton for one of them and Precious or something but it doesn't seem like that would be wise if they are likely UFAs wanting to get paid...FVV over $30 and if GT JR turns down his player option he'd want more than $20.

I think Ayton is probably more likely to be traded this offseaason for something like Poeltl in a S&T with another player...Jones would probably rather have McDermott since he can play now over a younger guy. (Hopefully Ishbia would push for a younger guy)....or Detroit for Bojan to get a win now player, and maybe a big from them...though Bojan getting older...still more of a Jones type win now move..the 24 year old C for older player. Or maybe the best option, though not great due to Rozier's play this year, Rozier and Plumlee.

I can see those 3 moves..they make sense.

I don't quite understand why Poeltl keeps coming up....

A DA for Poeltl trade is a downgrade for no real reason. Unless they throw in a guy like Keldon, Sochan or Vassell (which they won't), it doesn't make much sense.

[lilfishi22]

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I just don't think I could/would do it IF the price is Johnson and multiple picks! I wouldn't even have Johnson on the table with how good he's been since returning from injury!

Gambo shoots down every good trade rumor but thinks this is OG for 2-3 picks PLUS CamJo is reasonable? GTFO