Fake Trade Thread #5

[luciano-davidwesley]

What would be considered a good deadline?

Best case for me – we jettison Terry, Oubre, and Mason. Rozier nets a 1st and expiring, Mason a late first + salary match garbage, Oubre a useful role player and seconds. The likelihood of moving 3 vets though? below low.

Gut says Rozier makes it through the deadline, Mason is moved for meh + seconds, Oubre is moved for meh + seconds.

This all said - it would be zero shock if we were to do nothing.

Pretty much nailed it

[luciano-davidwesley]

Trades suggested in Duncd on pod

Kelly to LA for Bev and 2RP.
Mason and McD to Nets for Cam, Sharpe, 2RP.

both are underwhelming. I guess yes to Kelly trade, no to Nets trade.

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Seriously - I'm self aware enough to feel my homer bias, but every hypo trade scenario I've seen seems to slant against the hornets. Mason and McD - two pieces, one young and with upside, that would contribute for the Nets - for Thomas (another woefully undersized 2 that reeks bust), Sharpe (basically nobody) and late second? Right. I'd rather let them expire.

According to the wider NBA community the Hornets are a charity that exists to help other teams improve their rosters.

[luciano-davidwesley]

We do nothing. We keep both Kelly and Mason plus all of our vets and continue playing them 30 plus minutes a game for the rest of the season while we go .500.

Mitch and Clifford talk about how they really thought the team could make a run for the play in spot now that everyone is healthy.

We resign at least one of them to a long-term contract in july.

I know you are being sarcastic but there's a definite possibility MJ, Kupcake and Cliff legitimately feel this way.

[Diop]

I’d rather pay out Plumlee and let him pick his destination than trade him for crap

[luciano-davidwesley]

I’d rather pay out Plumlee and let him pick his destination than trade him for crap

Nah, I'm sick of giving the vultures free rotation players via buy-outs. If they don't want to pay something fair tell them to get f*cked and Plumlee can play backup/third string.

Buy-outs of good players will only encourage contenders to low ball trade offers or not offer anything at all in future seasons.

[Hornet Mania]

For me the ideal deadline would be Plumlee and Oubre sent out for a total of two 1sts.

An excellent and more reasonable deadline would be Plumlee, Oubre and Terry all get sent out for a total of two 1sts and however many 2nds Mitch can get.

A bad deadline would be Plumlee, Terry and Oubre sent out for a smattering of 2nds and third string role players.

My personal expectation is something closer to the bad deadline scenario, Mitch just isn't much of a wheeler and dealer.

[JMAC3]

Apparently, Raptors are open to moving OG all of a sudden.

This could be a good thing for us, because if he is moved for a boatload of picks, it may make a guy like Oubre look super affordable when you compare the production and cost.

[JDR720]

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[JMAC3]

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Highlights from your friendly neighborhood podcast listening work from home spiderman

Terry has a lot of teams that like him- some teams think he has a large number, others look at as when cap goes up it will be good to fine.
Thinks Plumlee is most likely to be dealt because he is cheaper than Poeltl and his contract is only 9 million so easy to match.
Oubre next most likely to be dealt

Says that Mitch is respected around the league, that it is him calling the shots.
Says that we are seen as cheap front office, not necessarily in players contracts but just overall with paying coaches, lockerooms, booking hotels etc.

Says that contrast to reports, the NBA as a whole expects Charlotte to get a deal done with Bridges post trade deadline to start serving an expected suspension.

[JMAC3]

Would you trade the Denver pick to Spurs for rights to our pick back?

[HornetJail]

Would you trade the Denver pick to Spurs for rights to our pick back?

on draft day once we have a clearer idea of what the future of this team looks like. It's a win for us if we make the playoffs in 2024 or 2025, a loss for us if we don't, because we'd be just getting our two 2nds back.

I don't think the Spurs take that bet.

[Benjamin Linus]

I'm willing to bet we'll make the playoffs within the next two seasons after this so yeah, I'd trade the 29th pick this year for something like a future 15-22 pick

[JMAC3]

If we did end up doing that swap. It would essentially boil out when all is said and done Graham for Kai Jones. I think I can live with that and move on.

[fatlever]

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The rumor that won't die.

West and FRP for Terry and ???

Take it or leave it.

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[JDR720]

Westbrook + Bev + both firsts for Rozier + Gordon.

Pretty much the only way we can take on WB is if we trade them Rozier + Gordon. Or Plum + Oubre + Rozier.

But I'd worry that Westbrook would go hero mode and drag us to too many wins.

[HornetJail]

Westbrook + Bev + both firsts for Rozier + Gordon.

Pretty much the only way we can take on WB is if we trade them Rozier + Gordon. Or Plum + Oubre + Rozier.

But I'd worry that Westbrook would go hero mode and drag us to too many wins.

I'm at the point where I'd settle for 1 1st and a swap, preferably a swap involving Denver's pick and the Pels' pick.

I'm not going much lower though

[Liver_Pooty]

Those two laker first round picks might be the most overrated bargaining chips in the history of the league. Maybe if it was a non free agent destination like us. But in 2027, 29, whatever they'll just sign a Zion and another stud in his prime and be good again.

[SWedd523]

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West and FRP for Terry and ???

Take it or leave it.

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[HornetJail]

Those two laker first round picks might be the most overrated bargaining chips in the history of the league. Maybe if it was a non free agent destination like us. But in 2027, 29, whatever they'll just sign a Zion and another stud in his prime and be good again.

The Lakers organization is an absolute train wreck. They can't even field a consistent playoff team with LeBron... I'll take my chances with those picks. They're going to have no pieces at all aside from their cap space when LeBron and AD move on in the middle of this decade.

[NCHeels2008]

Westbrook + Bev + both firsts for Rozier + Gordon.

Pretty much the only way we can take on WB is if we trade them Rozier + Gordon. Or Plum + Oubre + Rozier.

But I'd worry that Westbrook would go hero mode and drag us to too many wins.

I'm at the point where I'd settle for 1 1st and a swap, preferably a swap involving Denver's pick and the Pels' pick.

I'm not going much lower though

As someone who supports both teams I'd hope the Lakers would go another direction if they included any picks in the Terry Gordon iteration. 1 pick for Plum, Oubre and Rozier is fine in value but Plum doesn't really fit a need so it seems like a waste of a FRP to me.