2023 Trade Rumors

[AingesBurner]

Where does Collins fit in the Pelicans roster when everyone are healthy? He's not going to play over Ingram at the 3 and not over Zion at the 4. And I can't see the Pelicans relegate Valanciunas to the bench and move Zion to play center so he could play with Collins and Ingram. Are they going to pay Collins 25M per year to come off the bench? Unlikely.

This rumor makes no sense for the Pelicans. I may be wrong, but it looks like the Hawks are trying to generate fake interest to drive up the price.

You are correct, Hawks are trying to drive up the cost.

[Crunch 99]

1/29/2023 Kawhi Leonard Has Told Clippers He'd Welcome Trade For A Point Guard
https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/270178/Kawhi-Leonard-Has-Told-Clippers-Hed-Welcome-Trade-For-A-Point-Guard

LA has reportedly expressed interest in trading for Mike Conley of the Utah Jazz, Kyle Lowry of the Miami Heat and Fred VanVleet of the Toronto Raptors.

Anyone here have a suggestion for a Jazz/Clippers' trade that would entice us to give up Conley?

Kawhi already won a championship playing with Lowry and VanVleet, but when I look at those three options, Conley would be my number one target if I am the Clippers. Conley's ast/36 is 9.2 vs 5.8 for Lowry and 6.3 for VanVleet; Conley's ast/tov ratio is 4.75 vs 2.7 for Lowry and 3.6 for VanVleet, and his 3p% is 36.6% vs 33.5% for Lowry and 34.3% for VanVleet. Conley's contract next season is partially guaranteed at $14m IRC vs $29.7M guaranteed for then 37 year old Lowry, while VanVleet is UFA reportedly looking for a contract starting at $30M/year.

VanVleet puts up way more pts/game than Conley and Lowry, but when both Kawhi and PG are playing, the Clippers wouldn't want VanVleet to be taking a lot of shots at his low TS% given much more efficient TS percentages from Kawhi and Paul George. And with VanVleet trying to entice a team in to writing a contract this summer starting at $30M/year, VanVleet is probably going to keep firing away.

[zero24gravity]

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/270182/Pacers-Spurs-Raptors-Jazz-Interested-in-Jalen-McDaniels

Jalen McDaniels? Young, 6'9" forward with decent potential. He would fit into a hole in the team's roster, where Vanderbilt is the only tall and versatile forward on the roster. (No, Gay doesn't count.) 27mpg, 32% 3's, 5rpg, 11ppg.

I see him more likely as a secondary trade option, like if the team makes another trade, where they give up Vanderbilt, Olynyk, etc., therefore need a player to fill a frontcourt roll. As an expiring contract, I can't imagine the Jazz would give up a lot for him, though. Salary-wise, it would have to be Bolmaro or Azabuke (+ perhaps a 2nd round pick?), or include other players, since McDaniels only makes $1.9m. If he resigned with the Jazz, he could be a low risk, high reward pick-up.

[Inigo Montoya]

In the case of the Clippers, I think bringing in a third team makes sense because I don't see anyone on their roster that really makes a difference or is really enticing unless they want to give up a FRP.

Maybe Kennard makes some sense in case Beasley is traded because he replaces Beasley's shooting and on a similar contract value-wise. But in that case we may as well keep Beasley, unless we can get a good return. Other than that, I don't think the Clippers are an ideal trade partner.

[zero24gravity]

1/29/2023 Kawhi Leonard Has Told Clippers He'd Welcome Trade For A Point Guard
https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/270178/Kawhi-Leonard-Has-Told-Clippers-Hed-Welcome-Trade-For-A-Point-Guard

LA has reportedly expressed interest in trading for Mike Conley of the Utah Jazz, Kyle Lowry of the Miami Heat and Fred VanVleet of the Toronto Raptors.

Anyone here have a suggestion for a Jazz/Clippers' trade that would entice us to give up Conley?

Kawhi already won a championship playing with Lowry and VanVleet, but when I look at those three options, Conley would be my number one target if I am the Clippers. Conley's ast/36 is 9.2 vs 5.8 and 6.3 for Lowry and VanVleet; Conley's ast/tov ratio is 4.75 vs 2.7 and 3.6 for Lowry and VanVleet, and his 3p% is 36.6% vs 33.6% and 34.3% for Lowry and VanVleet. Conley's contract next season is partially guaranteed at $14m IRC vs $29.7M guaranteed for then 37 year old Lowry, while VanVleet is UFA reportedly looking for a contract starting at $30M/year.

VanVleet puts up way more pts/game than Conley and Lowry, but when both Kawhi and PG are playing, the Clippers wouldn't want VanVleet to be taking a lot of shots and soaking up usage at his low TS% compared to the efficient TS percentages of Kawhi and Paul George. And with VanVleet trying to entice a team in to writing a contract this summer starting at $30M/year, VanVleet is probably going to keep firing away wherever he plays.

On 01/17, in this thread, I tried to come up with some ideas. Without a 3rd team, it seems pretty difficult to get done, though.

[Inigo Montoya]

Here's an idea. Since Clarkson is headed to free agency, and will command a 20M+ per year salary at 31 years of age, who about we trade with the Nuggets for Bones Hyland, who seems like a young version of Clarkson. He fits the timeline better, will cost less, and has a pretty similar style of play. Their per 36 stats are similar both this season and for their careers, and Hyland is only 22.

Nuggets Discussing Bones Hyland Trades
https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/270183/Nuggets-Discussing-Bones-Hyland-Trades

[zero24gravity]

Here's an idea. Since Clarkson is headed to free agency, and will command a 20M+ per year salary at 31 years of age, who about we trade with the Nuggets for Bones Hyland, who seems like a young version of Clarkson. He fits the timeline better, will cost less, and has a pretty similar style of play. Their per 36 stats are similar both this season and for their careers, and Hyland is only 22.

Nuggets Discussing Bones Hyland Trades
https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/270183/Nuggets-Discussing-Bones-Hyland-Trades

I've liked Bones, when I've seen him play against the Jazz. And I agree he fits the timeline.

He is smaller, at only 6'2", so he's not really a SG, and I'm not sure how he fits with Conley &/or Sexton. (If Mike & JC both get moved, then we definitely need some kind of PG in return, though.) I feel like I've also read that he is a bit of a locker room issue, but I can't substantiate that.

[SoCalJazzFan]

There are rumors the Jazz are interested in Dorian Finney-Smith. That doesn't make much sense to me.

[bkohler]

There are rumors the Jazz are interested in Dorian Finney-Smith. That doesn't make much sense to me.

Very few of the Jazz rumors make sense to me. I think it's more than likely it's a slow trade deadline and we stand pat for the most part.

[mg]

There are rumors the Jazz are interested in Dorian Finney-Smith. That doesn't make much sense to me.

Finding a PF who fits between Lauri and Kessler is something they apparently see as a bit of a need. First it was the Collins rumors and now DFS. Vando and KO are good players but not great fits. Vando would fit next to an offensive center such as Turner or Ayton. KO would probably fit better next to an athletic big such as Bam in Miami.

DFS is already 29 so the timeline might be a little off but he's a pretty decent fit on paper and signed to a good contract. Eventually I'm assuming they will draft/groom a guy.

[zero24gravity]

There are rumors the Jazz are interested in Dorian Finney-Smith. That doesn't make much sense to me.

Finding a PF who fits between Lauri and Kessler is something they apparently see as a bit of a need. First it was the Collins rumors and now DFS. Vando and KO are good players but not great fits. Vando would fit next to an offensive center such as Turner or Ayton. KO would probably fit better next to an athletic big such as Bam in Miami.

DFS is already 29 so the timeline might be a little off but he's a pretty decent fit on paper and signed to a good contract. Eventually I'm assuming they will draft/groom a guy.

Perhaps this is why there's a Jalen McDaniels rumor??? 6'9", 205lbs, 24 yr old, 27.0 mpg, 45.4 FG, 32.6 3's, 84.4 FT, 4.9 rpg, 2.0 apg, 0.5 bpg, 10.8 ppg. Not an ideal starter, but a better fit than JV next to Kessler, I would think. Certainly young enough to improve, or be a good bench player. (If he re-signs.)

[Inigo Montoya]

DFS doesn't make much sense, I agree. He's also not really a PF so he's not filling that spot.

EDIT - regarding the news article that says "Mavs Open To Trading Dorian Finney-Smith As Part Of Package For Star," I think it's a silly way to phrase it. It's like saying the Jazz are open to trading Malik Beasley or Kelly Olynyk or Jordan Clarkson or Mike Conley as a part of a package for a star. It's sort of a given. Most if not all teams are going to be open to trading one of their role players in a package for a star.

[Inigo Montoya]

Here's an idea. Since Clarkson is headed to free agency, and will command a 20M+ per year salary at 31 years of age, who about we trade with the Nuggets for Bones Hyland, who seems like a young version of Clarkson. He fits the timeline better, will cost less, and has a pretty similar style of play. Their per 36 stats are similar both this season and for their careers, and Hyland is only 22.

Nuggets Discussing Bones Hyland Trades
https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/270183/Nuggets-Discussing-Bones-Hyland-Trades

I've liked Bones, when I've seen him play against the Jazz. And I agree he fits the timeline.

He is smaller, at only 6'2", so he's not really a SG, and I'm not sure how he fits with Conley &/or Sexton. (If Mike & JC both get moved, then we definitely need some kind of PG in return, though.) I feel like I've also read that he is a bit of a locker room issue, but I can't substantiate that.

He's listed at 6'3, which is only an inch shorter than 6'4 Clarkson so I don't think it's a huge issue. I think his game is rather similar to Clarkson's so if JC fits next to Conley or Sexton then Hyland should fit as well. Having said that, ideally he's a 6th man, just like Clarkson is ideally a 6th man, but with a lot of room to grow. And he'll also only cost 2.3M and 4.1M in the next two seasons, while Clarkson will cost 20M per season starting next season.

[zero24gravity]

Here's an idea. Since Clarkson is headed to free agency, and will command a 20M+ per year salary at 31 years of age, who about we trade with the Nuggets for Bones Hyland, who seems like a young version of Clarkson. He fits the timeline better, will cost less, and has a pretty similar style of play. Their per 36 stats are similar both this season and for their careers, and Hyland is only 22.

Nuggets Discussing Bones Hyland Trades
https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/270183/Nuggets-Discussing-Bones-Hyland-Trades

I've liked Bones, when I've seen him play against the Jazz. And I agree he fits the timeline.

He is smaller, at only 6'2", so he's not really a SG, and I'm not sure how he fits with Conley &/or Sexton. (If Mike & JC both get moved, then we definitely need some kind of PG in return, though.) I feel like I've also read that he is a bit of a locker room issue, but I can't substantiate that.

He's listed at 6'3, which is only an inch shorter than 6'4 Clarkson so I don't think it's a huge issue. I think his game is rather similar to Clarkson's so if JC fits next to Conley or Sexton then Hyland should fit as well. Having said that, ideally he's a 6th man, just like Clarkson is ideally a 6th man, but with a lot of room to grow. And he'll also only cost 2.3M and 4.1M in the next two seasons, while Clarkson will cost 20M per season starting next season.

I see on NBA.com & ESPN.com his at 6'2". I don't think that inch is make or break, though, so no big deal. (His wing span is 6'9.5, which is only 0.5" less than JC.) I see what you're saying, and do like his game, especially off the bench at a great contract number.

[bkohler]

My prediction is that we make 2-3 trades for small value (2nds) and contracts/players like Bones who might have more value in the offseason or next year. Basically, punt some of our value that is tied into expiring contracts into longer contracts that might have more value down the road (or at least another opportunity to get that value).

[mg]

I think Vando gets dealt for the best draft package. Now that Indy re-signed Turner I could definitely see Vando as a fit next to him. The Pacers also have 3 FRP's this season including the Boston and Cleveland picks. Apparently Duarte might be a youngish guy they might trade too.

The Knicks of all teams with their picks could also be a match for several of the Jazz players.

They will probably draft a PG or lead ballhandler with one of the picks is my guess.

[SoCalJazzFan]

I've liked Bones, when I've seen him play against the Jazz. And I agree he fits the timeline.

He is smaller, at only 6'2", so he's not really a SG, and I'm not sure how he fits with Conley &/or Sexton. (If Mike & JC both get moved, then we definitely need some kind of PG in return, though.) I feel like I've also read that he is a bit of a locker room issue, but I can't substantiate that.

He's listed at 6'3, which is only an inch shorter than 6'4 Clarkson so I don't think it's a huge issue. I think his game is rather similar to Clarkson's so if JC fits next to Conley or Sexton then Hyland should fit as well. Having said that, ideally he's a 6th man, just like Clarkson is ideally a 6th man, but with a lot of room to grow. And he'll also only cost 2.3M and 4.1M in the next two seasons, while Clarkson will cost 20M per season starting next season.

I see on NBA.com & ESPN.com his at 6'2". I don't think that inch is make or break, though, so no big deal. (His wing span is 6'9.5, which is only 0.5" less than JC.) I see what you're saying, and do like his game, especially off the bench at a great contract number.

I'm not against trading for Bones, but if the Jazz do, they will probably need to not only either trade or not resign Clarkso, but also unload Sexton, IMO.

(Edit: The Jazz would also have to acquire an on ball defender at PG or wing, although they would also have to if they keep Clarkson)

[SoCalJazzFan]

In the case of the Clippers, I think bringing in a third team makes sense because I don't see anyone on their roster that really makes a difference or is really enticing unless they want to give up a FRP.

Maybe Kennard makes some sense in case Beasley is traded because he replaces Beasley's shooting and on a similar contract value-wise. But in that case we may as well keep Beasley, unless we can get a good return. Other than that, I don't think the Clippers are an ideal trade partner.

Now even reporters/insiders are indicating that Conley to Clippers is unlikely.
https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2023/01/l-a-notes-lebron-t-bryant-lakers-conley-clippers.html

[Cappy_Smurf]

As much as Jazz fans see this season as pointless, they are only 2 games out of the 4th spot in the west.

For this reason, I don't think they will dump players for 2nd round picks with the idea that some value is better than none. The reason being is I think they see possible playoff experience as more valuable than 2nd rounders. They aren't winning a championship this year, but they aren't that far off of possibly getting to the 2nd round, especially with all these teams having health issues. Any chance to possibly win a playoff series would be great experience for the few guys they see as long term pieces.

Having said that, if they get a chance to pick up a 1st rounder, I wouldn't be surprised to see them pull the trigger.

[Inigo Montoya]

He's listed at 6'3, which is only an inch shorter than 6'4 Clarkson so I don't think it's a huge issue. I think his game is rather similar to Clarkson's so if JC fits next to Conley or Sexton then Hyland should fit as well. Having said that, ideally he's a 6th man, just like Clarkson is ideally a 6th man, but with a lot of room to grow. And he'll also only cost 2.3M and 4.1M in the next two seasons, while Clarkson will cost 20M per season starting next season.

I see on NBA.com & ESPN.com his at 6'2". I don't think that inch is make or break, though, so no big deal. (His wing span is 6'9.5, which is only 0.5" less than JC.) I see what you're saying, and do like his game, especially off the bench at a great contract number.

I'm not against trading for Bones, but if the Jazz do, they will probably need to not only either trade or not resign Clarkso, but also unload Sexton, IMO.

(Edit: The Jazz would also have to acquire an on ball defender at PG or wing, although they would also have to if they keep Clarkson)

I see Hyland as a replacement for Clarkson so yes, trading for him is entirely dependent on the Jazz's plans for Clarkson. I don't see why the Jazz will need to unload Sexton though, he might be our starting PG next season (or even this season) if Conley is traded.

As for the Jazz's need for an on ball defender at PG or wing, I agree, we really need one. I'm hoping for an OG Anunoby trade but that might be too ambitious. Thybulle might also be an option. Regardless of the Clarkson situation, we need such a defender (which is another reason why I prefer the Jazz going for Anunoby rather than Collins).