[Shams] - Raptors Now Taking Calls for OG

[EH15]

I like Hali more than you I guess

I believe w the right pieces around him he is him

Haliburton averages 20ppg.

Huh? Is that supposed to be bad?

Hes doing this as the primary guy on offense with 61% TS. He’s also averaging 10 apg on a 4:1 assist/turnover ratio

And he’s just 22…

Why can’t he be your best player to build a winning team around? He’s one of the best talents in the league

Pacers got a gem

Don't fall for the bait bro

[Johnny Bball]

Trading OG would be such a step back. Like offensive stars, defensive stars do not grow on trees. I've said this before, without a DPOY or close candidate, no team wins a title.

Yet most of tWo wants to trade away the one piece we actually need to get there one day. I would be shocked, if it weren't so typical.

You may not win a title without a defensive star but you won't even make the finals without enough offensive stars.

So that's the reason to trade away one of the hardest piees to find instead of literally anything/onr else? Ok.

[LoveMyRaps]

Trading OG would be such a step back. Like offensive stars, defensive stars do not grow on trees. I've said this before, without a DPOY or close candidate, no team wins a title.

Yet most of tWo wants to trade away the one piece we actually need to get there one day. I would be shocked, if it weren't so typical.

You may not win a title without a defensive star but you won't even make the finals without enough offensive stars.

So that's the reason to trade away one of the hardest piees to find instead of literally anything/onr else? Ok.

Maybe he really wants out? I don't think Masai would want to trade one of the younger, brightest stars on the team with DPOY potential.

[Johnny Bball]

You may not win a title without a defensive star but you won't even make the finals without enough offensive stars.

So that's the reason to trade away one of the hardest piees to find instead of literally anything/onr else? Ok.

Maybe he really wants out? I don't think Masai would want to trade one of the younger, brightest stars on the team with DPOY potential.

Sure. And that's a completely different point. I don't think he would either.

Then again, you could try and accomodate him and move him in the summer when the return should be better when salary cap isnt really a concern.

[PhilBlackson]

OG and Khem for Heild and Duerte works.

Not for us.

That deal is absolute trash!

They have five picks, their own plus Clev and Bos (both protected).

Heild and Mathurin also works, but they would have to really want OG at that point. It's possible.

You're acting like they're lotto picks...

1. They're not gonna give up 5 picks (period), when the top end of the market is offering 3.
2. Those picks will be mid to ass lol IND was already basically in the same bracket as MIA, NYK when Hali is healthy. Add one of the best 3+D players league with Turner, they're gonna go up a level...not quite CLE but they'll likely lock themselves in as a Playoff team. The bottomline is since they have no incentive to tank after, majority of their guys are younger & only going to improve, those picks will generally be in the 15-20+ range (high end 12?) -- is there a chance we can turn that into a good player or two?! Sure but odds favour you don't AND they'd all take a substantial amount of time until you really see if you got a player out of it....

The heck with waiting around for YEARS (you don't get those 3 picks all in one year & if you do they're garbage 25+ lol), use OG to get a player you can ALREADY see has the talent (ie/ Dyson Daniels, Trey Murphy, Shaedon Sharpe, Jalen Williams etc). You don't have to sit, hope & pray a prospect of that calibre falls through to you for several years. You get them now & reduce the amount of picks attached because you've already identified a young talent you think can offset OG's lose of talent.

[StopitLeo]

Trading OG would be such a step back. Like offensive stars, defensive stars do not grow on trees. I've said this before, without a DPOY or close candidate, no team wins a title.

Yet most of tWo wants to trade away the one piece we actually need to get there one day. I would be shocked, if it weren't so typical.

You may not win a title without a defensive star but you won't even make the finals without enough offensive stars.

So that's the reason to trade away one of the hardest piees to find instead of literally anything/onr else? Ok.

I'm all for trading anyone else to improve the team but OG is the only guy with enough value (out of him, FVV, and GTJ) to potentially return a higher end offensive player. IMO that is the biggest need on the team, another guy who can be a primary scoring option like Pascal.

[LBJKB24MJ23]

Trading OG would be such a step back. Like offensive stars, defensive stars do not grow on trees. I've said this before, without a DPOY or close candidate, no team wins a title.

Yet most of tWo wants to trade away the one piece we actually need to get there one day. I would be shocked, if it weren't so typical.

i doubt tWo wants to trade OG. if anything they want to build around OG and Barnes and trade away Siakam and FVV.

just happens that the OG rumours are getting out of control that he wants more this and that and people are playing into that more than anything

It's reported that teams were only offering 2nds for Trent or a heavily protected first. This is why the Raptors are checking if they could make the best of OG's trade value.

well ya, GTJ is unrestricted. due diligence, esp for a team underperforming or just plain sucking.

Raptors apparently been taking calls on everyone outside of Barnes and Siakam as well.

[Harcore Fenton Mun]

Not for us.

That deal is absolute trash!

They have five picks, their own plus Clev and Bos (both protected).

Heild and Mathurin also works, but they would have to really want OG at that point. It's possible.

You're acting like they're lotto picks...

1. They're not gonna give up 5 picks (period), when the top end of the market is offering 3.
2. Those picks will be mid to ass lol IND was already basically in the same bracket as MIA, NYK when Hali is healthy. Add one of the best 3+D players league with Turner, they're gonna go up a level...not quite CLE but they'll likely lock themselves in as a Playoff team. The bottomline is since they have no incentive to tank after, majority of their guys are younger & only going to improve, those picks will generally be in the 15-20+ range (high end 12?) -- is there a chance we can turn that into a good player or two?! Sure but odds favour you don't AND they'd all take a substantial amount of time until you really see if you got a player out of it....

The heck with waiting around for YEARS (you don't get those 3 picks all in one year & if you do they're garbage 25+ lol), use OG to get a player you can ALREADY see has the talent (ie/ Dyson Daniels, Trey Murphy, Shaedon Sharpe, Jalen Williams etc). You don't have to sit, hope & pray a prospect of that calibre falls through to you for several years. You get them now & reduce the amount of picks attached because you've already identified a young talent you think can offset OG's lose of talent.

I'm not expecting top five picks here. The goal would be to turn OG into a bench of cheap good players. Especially if we're getting two starter(ish) quality players back in return.

[PhilBlackson]

They have five picks, their own plus Clev and Bos (both protected).

Heild and Mathurin also works, but they would have to really want OG at that point. It's possible.

You're acting like they're lotto picks...

1. They're not gonna give up 5 picks (period), when the top end of the market is offering 3.
2. Those picks will be mid to ass lol IND was already basically in the same bracket as MIA, NYK when Hali is healthy. Add one of the best 3+D players league with Turner, they're gonna go up a level...not quite CLE but they'll likely lock themselves in as a Playoff team. The bottomline is since they have no incentive to tank after, majority of their guys are younger & only going to improve, those picks will generally be in the 15-20+ range (high end 12?) -- is there a chance we can turn that into a good player or two?! Sure but odds favour you don't AND they'd all take a substantial amount of time until you really see if you got a player out of it....

The heck with waiting around for YEARS (you don't get those 3 picks all in one year & if you do they're garbage 25+ lol), use OG to get a player you can ALREADY see has the talent (ie/ Dyson Daniels, Trey Murphy, Shaedon Sharpe, Jalen Williams etc). You don't have to sit, hope & pray a prospect of that calibre falls through to you for several years. You get them now & reduce the amount of picks attached because you've already identified a young talent you think can offset OG's lose of talent.

I'm not expecting top five picks here. The goal would be to turn OG into a bench of cheap good players. Especially if we're getting two starter(ish) quality players back in return.

Again the problem is you'll have to wait YEARS to even find out if ANY of them are lol that's gotta be one of THE worst options/ideas by far when you can just target specific players with different teams NOW. Again Lowe & others have reported that interest is almost league wide & Shams mentioned the Pels who have PLENTY of better prospects and picks, that right away ends any interest in what IND wants to offer unless it's Mathurin (which obv won't be).

[MavCarter]

Am i the only one who wouldnt mind getting a ton of mid/late first round picks? If we come out out OG/Fred with a good young player + 5 firsts or something i wouldnt lose sleep. The front office does well with these picks outside of malachi lol

[Nebuchadnezzar]

Am i the only one who wouldnt mind getting a ton of mid/late first round picks? If we come out out OG/Fred with a good young player + 5 firsts or something i wouldnt lose sleep. The front office does well with these picks outside of malachi lol

To what end? So we'd get similar players we have now in 5-6 years, and all the experts on here would say we should blow it up again?

[ash_k]

Am i the only one who wouldnt mind getting a ton of mid/late first round picks? If we come out out OG/Fred with a good young player + 5 firsts or something i wouldnt lose sleep. The front office does well with these picks outside of malachi lol

To what end? So we'd get similar players we have now in 5-6 years, and all the experts on here would say we should blow it up again?

and then we have to hope and pray they can handle playoff pressure. No thanks!We are just fine with OG.

[Harcore Fenton Mun]

Again the problem is you'll have to wait YEARS to even find out if ANY of them are lol that's gotta be one of THE worst options/ideas by far when you can just target specific players with different teams NOW. Again Lowe & others have reported that interest is almost league wide & Shams mentioned the Pels who have PLENTY of better prospects and picks, that right away ends any interest in what IND wants to offer unless it's Mathurin (which obv won't be).

Yeah, it'd make a lot more sense if we got two starters back here. That'd get us to a nine/ten man rotation.

The picks while not golden are loads of value, especially if you pick well. Those are all cheap contracts on long timelines. Volume helps here.

It's not my favorite path either, I agree on that. IND does love them some OG though.

[douggood]

Am i the only one who wouldnt mind getting a ton of mid/late first round picks? If we come out out OG/Fred with a good young player + 5 firsts or something i wouldnt lose sleep. The front office does well with these picks outside of malachi lol

To what end? So we'd get similar players we have now in 5-6 years, and all the experts on here would say we should blow it up again?

because they are retradable assets, in a year or 2 we can do big trade to add player to team,

[pilkoids]

I remember during the Lebronto days, OG was exactly the kind of wing we we were looking for. Who was that guy Masai signed strictly to defend Lebron but had nagging knee issues that he blamed on our staff after he left? Can't believe his name eludes me now...

[navyblue]

I remember during the Lebronto days, OG was exactly the kind of wing we we were looking for. Who was that guy Masai signed strictly to defend Lebron but had nagging knee issues that he blamed on our staff after he left? Can't believe his name eludes me now...

Demare caroll

[Dalek]

Honestly, I have never heard a coach almost blatantly call out a player like this:

Speaking with the media on Tuesday, Raptors coach Nick Nurse seemed to express confusion over the team’s decision to rule out Anunoby for the rest of the trip (a span of four more games).

“It’s a little surprising to me,” said Nurse of Anunoby being ruled out. “This trip has a long way to go … so it’s a little surprising to me. I guess we know what we have for this trip now.”

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/sports/nba/nick-nurse-has-curious-comments-about-raptors-trade-candidate/ar-AA170oq4?ocid=entnewsntp&cvid=1e20f7f4a985439fb3c2aa47fd25caaf

I saw OG wearing some kind of sleeve to protect his wrist, so I don't doubt he is hurt. I would have probably died if I took the same fall as him after the Draymond bodycheck.

It is just that Nurse is basically questioning management. He has a pretty tight roster and now he lost a huge piece for at least four games.

While we talk about OG and him sitting out due to injury or for a potential trade, it will be interesting to see if Nurse gets more vocal about playing shorthanded.

[Harcore Fenton Mun]

Nurse probably didn't know OG was out because the decision came from above. At least that's what I took from it.

[Michael Bradley]

OG with one healthy arm would have still played 43 minutes in the next game, so Nurse probably panicking that he has to play a bench player in his place.

[BCbudraptorfan]

cant believe were taking calls on og and not fred this could alter the future real bad