OT: Breanna Stewart signs with New York

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Re: OT: Breanna Stewart signs with New York 

Post#21 » by azcatz11 » Thu Feb 2, 2023 2:25 am

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azcatz11 wrote:They are calling this the new Big 3 and she’s already said don’t chirp her for tickets…apparently sold out. Pretty cool to see the league getting a lot of notoriety

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Definitely not sold out. I'm also noticing that you can't purchase tickets to the upper sections like you can at an NBA game. Is that normal?


I think they block off the upper areas. They do that at baseball stadiums and some football stadiums in college also though
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Re: OT: Breanna Stewart signs with New York 

Post#22 » by prophet_of_rage » Thu Feb 2, 2023 2:32 am

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I know you think the responses are juvenile, but it brings up a good point about the WNBA.

Honestly though, the WNBA has an image and a marketing problem. As someone who grew up watching women's college basketball in the 90's, I could easily identify the female stars during that time. Now, I have no idea who these players are. The product isn't good enough to get me to care, and I think most basketball fans feel that way.


Most people tend not to say anything about things they don't care about. But here, there's a history of the same people making the same tired and misogynist jokes to fish for And-1s. All while not even giving the WNBA a chance and dismissing the sport altogether just because women are playing in it.


that's probably true, although the wnba makes themselves an easy target. it's like they refuse to accept that the product isn't good and the players and the league are unrepetent about it. the way they run that league INVITES HATERS. that's just my 2 cents.

The product is good, though. It is very fundamentally sound basketball. It simply isn't as theatrical as the NBA.
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Re: OT: Breanna Stewart signs with New York 

Post#23 » by Nate505 » Thu Feb 2, 2023 3:00 am

bisme37 wrote:Former MVP Jonquel Jones in NY now too.

And Candace Parker went from Chicago to the defending champion Las Vegas Aces.

Lots of movement this off-season. Gotta think those 2 teams are the favorites. Should be a fun season.


Now granted, I'm not a WNBA fan at all but I'm curious. For any sports league, is it really that interesting when 2 teams are the favorites to win the whole thing? It feels like it makes the whole season really anti-climatic.

I know the NBA has lived on this premise before with the Lakers and Celtics in the 80s, so if that's the blueprint they're trying to follow, I guess it could work. But it takes some pretty transcendent stars to make that work.
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Re: OT: Breanna Stewart signs with New York 

Post#24 » by TGW » Thu Feb 2, 2023 3:03 am

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infinite11285 wrote:
Most people tend not to say anything about things they don't care about. But here, there's a history of the same people making the same tired and misogynist jokes to fish for And-1s. All while not even giving the WNBA a chance and dismissing the sport altogether just because women are playing in it.


that's probably true, although the wnba makes themselves an easy target. it's like they refuse to accept that the product isn't good and the players and the league are unrepetent about it. the way they run that league INVITES HATERS. that's just my 2 cents.

The product is good, though. It is very fundamentally sound basketball. It simply isn't as theatrical as the NBA.


not so sure about that. the women struggle to make simple uncontested layups at times.
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Re: OT: Breanna Stewart signs with New York 

Post#25 » by Duke4life831 » Thu Feb 2, 2023 3:21 am

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TGW wrote:
infinite11285 wrote:
Most people tend not to say anything about things they don't care about. But here, there's a history of the same people making the same tired and misogynist jokes to fish for And-1s. All while not even giving the WNBA a chance and dismissing the sport altogether just because women are playing in it.


that's probably true, although the wnba makes themselves an easy target. it's like they refuse to accept that the product isn't good and the players and the league are unrepetent about it. the way they run that league INVITES HATERS. that's just my 2 cents.

The product is good, though. It is very fundamentally sound basketball. It simply isn't as theatrical as the NBA.


It all depends on how you view it though. Just straight forward if Im looking to watch basketball be played at its highest levels, aka the best players and the best teams. The WNBA isnt a good basketball product. Its behind

NBA
Europe/China/Australia pro leagues
G League
College Basketball
OTE
High level mens high school basketball

This is always going to be the struggle for the WNBA to gain any ground in the casual sports fan viewing schedule. There is an abundance of supply when it comes to basketball to watch. Most people are just going to watch the elite level (aka NBA) and the only reason college basketball has a significant fan base is because they have a built in fanbase with people who go to college and become fans of their college teams.
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Re: OT: Breanna Stewart signs with New York 

Post#26 » by zike_42 » Thu Feb 2, 2023 4:19 am

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prophet_of_rage wrote:
TGW wrote:
that's probably true, although the wnba makes themselves an easy target. it's like they refuse to accept that the product isn't good and the players and the league are unrepetent about it. the way they run that league INVITES HATERS. that's just my 2 cents.

The product is good, though. It is very fundamentally sound basketball. It simply isn't as theatrical as the NBA.


It all depends on how you view it though. Just straight forward if Im looking to watch basketball be played at its highest levels, aka the best players and the best teams. The WNBA isnt a good basketball product. Its behind

NBA
Europe/China/Australia pro leagues
G League
College Basketball
OTE
High level mens high school basketball

This is always going to be the struggle for the WNBA to gain any ground in the casual sports fan viewing schedule. There is an abundance of supply when it comes to basketball to watch. Most people are just going to watch the elite level (aka NBA) and the only reason college basketball has a significant fan base is because they have a built in fanbase with people who go to college and become fans of their college teams.


The 2023 WNBA season runs from May 19 to Sept 10 (and then playoffs). How many of the league's run at that time? The NBA finals finish in June, college basketball isn't on, the NBL isn't on, the G-League isn't on. Not sure about China/Europe and OTE (does anyone watch that?) or high school.

One of the reasons I watch WNBA is that it IS the only basketball that I can watch after the NBA finals for months.
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Re: OT: Breanna Stewart signs with New York 

Post#27 » by Duke4life831 » Thu Feb 2, 2023 5:10 am

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Duke4life831 wrote:
prophet_of_rage wrote:The product is good, though. It is very fundamentally sound basketball. It simply isn't as theatrical as the NBA.


It all depends on how you view it though. Just straight forward if Im looking to watch basketball be played at its highest levels, aka the best players and the best teams. The WNBA isnt a good basketball product. Its behind

NBA
Europe/China/Australia pro leagues
G League
College Basketball
OTE
High level mens high school basketball

This is always going to be the struggle for the WNBA to gain any ground in the casual sports fan viewing schedule. There is an abundance of supply when it comes to basketball to watch. Most people are just going to watch the elite level (aka NBA) and the only reason college basketball has a significant fan base is because they have a built in fanbase with people who go to college and become fans of their college teams.


The 2023 WNBA season runs from May 19 to Sept 10 (and then playoffs). How many of the league's run at that time? The NBA finals finish in June, college basketball isn't on, the NBL isn't on, the G-League isn't on. Not sure about China/Europe and OTE (does anyone watch that?) or high school.

One of the reasons I watch WNBA is that it IS the only basketball that I can watch after the NBA finals for months.


Ya but youre talking about a very small portion of people who are looking for basketball all year long. Just look at football in the US for example. The NFL is ratings king, college football is massive as well. There has been multiple attempts to do a summer football league, the latest is the USFL. I think the championship game barely got 1 million viewers. Even in a football crazed country like the US, no one cares about the USFL. So again youre looking at the quality of product is very low compared to what is easily able to consume for the sport. And its at a time where most people are done with the sport and are watching other sports. There is a very limited ceiling with this.
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Re: OT: Breanna Stewart signs with New York 

Post#28 » by John Murdoch » Thu Feb 2, 2023 5:43 am

Ill be honest the only reason i know a few Wnba players is because i play fantasy...same with PGA...without DFS id have no clue... goes to show you how ppl absorb cerain sports differently
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Re: OT: Breanna Stewart signs with New York 

Post#29 » by NyKnicks1714 » Thu Feb 2, 2023 5:49 am

Some people on this site are so defensive and miserable.

Thread: "LeBron accomplishes x"
Post 6: "LeBron is a phony who played bad in the Finals 12 years ago"

Thread: "Jokic accomplishes y"
Post 5: "Embiid is better and should win MVP"

Thread: "Newsworthy WNBA item"
Post 2: "WNBA sucks"


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Re: OT: Breanna Stewart signs with New York 

Post#30 » by tripa » Thu Feb 2, 2023 6:08 am

dockingsched wrote:Basketball is finally back in New York


“They're saying us and Las Vegas are the superteams” - Breanna Stewart
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Re: OT: Breanna Stewart signs with New York 

Post#31 » by ShulaDon92 » Thu Feb 2, 2023 6:12 am

infinite11285 wrote:It's unsurprising to see the children embarrassingly stumble over themselves to learn women play professional basketball.

Seriously, grow up.


The wnba have been cooking. I've been watching spanish women's league a little and they have brought the cooking as well
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Re: OT: Breanna Stewart signs with New York 

Post#32 » by ShulaDon92 » Thu Feb 2, 2023 6:14 am

prophet_of_rage wrote:
TGW wrote:
infinite11285 wrote:
Most people tend not to say anything about things they don't care about. But here, there's a history of the same people making the same tired and misogynist jokes to fish for And-1s. All while not even giving the WNBA a chance and dismissing the sport altogether just because women are playing in it.


that's probably true, although the wnba makes themselves an easy target. it's like they refuse to accept that the product isn't good and the players and the league are unrepetent about it. the way they run that league INVITES HATERS. that's just my 2 cents.

The product is good, though. It is very fundamentally sound basketball. It simply isn't as theatrical as the NBA.



Tend to agree with this take. It's more team centric and doesn't have the wwe styled thing going on...yet
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Re: OT: Breanna Stewart signs with New York 

Post#33 » by Vox Populi » Thu Feb 2, 2023 7:04 am

bisme37 wrote:Former MVP Jonquel Jones in NY now too.

And Candace Parker went from Chicago to the defending champion Las Vegas Aces.

Lots of movement this off-season. Gotta think those 2 teams are the favorites. Should be a fun season.

Them superteams!
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Re: OT: Breanna Stewart signs with New York 

Post#34 » by DaddyCool19 » Thu Feb 2, 2023 7:15 am

Why not also list the other people names and maybe some accolades they have already collected? I guess I'm not the only one, who doesn't know who those players are.

Are they like the Heatles? Maybe even 2-3 MVP's on the same team or why are they called a Big 3?
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Re: OT: Breanna Stewart signs with New York 

Post#35 » by 76thBearCub » Thu Feb 2, 2023 7:39 am

The balance of power has CHANGED.
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Re: OT: Breanna Stewart signs with New York 

Post#36 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Thu Feb 2, 2023 7:41 am

Lots of losers looking for cheap And1s.
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Re: OT: Breanna Stewart signs with New York 

Post#37 » by 76thBearCub » Thu Feb 2, 2023 7:41 am

This team in New York is going to be a PROBLEM
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Re: OT: Breanna Stewart signs with New York 

Post#38 » by jc23 » Thu Feb 2, 2023 8:01 am

baldur wrote:If women wanna get paid as much as men, they should start going to the games instead of nails and beauty salons.

That's how it works.


Bill Burr has a good bit on this.
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Re: OT: Breanna Stewart signs with New York 

Post#39 » by CIN-C-STAR » Thu Feb 2, 2023 8:13 am

Duke4life831 wrote:
prophet_of_rage wrote:
TGW wrote:
that's probably true, although the wnba makes themselves an easy target. it's like they refuse to accept that the product isn't good and the players and the league are unrepetent about it. the way they run that league INVITES HATERS. that's just my 2 cents.

The product is good, though. It is very fundamentally sound basketball. It simply isn't as theatrical as the NBA.


It all depends on how you view it though. Just straight forward if Im looking to watch basketball be played at its highest levels, aka the best players and the best teams. The WNBA isnt a good basketball product. Its behind

NBA
Europe/China/Australia pro leagues
G League
College Basketball
OTE
High level mens high school basketball

This is always going to be the struggle for the WNBA to gain any ground in the casual sports fan viewing schedule. There is an abundance of supply when it comes to basketball to watch. Most people are just going to watch the elite level (aka NBA) and the only reason college basketball has a significant fan base is because they have a built in fanbase with people who go to college and become fans of their college teams.


The WNBA is basketball at the highest level. It's the highest level of women's basketball in the world.
It's like saying you wouldn't watch Simone Biles and the women's US gymnastics team in the Olympics because it's not elite compared to the men's team.
That may be true, but it's also a different event altogether and you still get the opportunity to witness greatness amongst someone's peers.
I get that maybe some people do just want to watch the men's event or whatever, but I wouldn't say it's not an elite level of competition just because it's not the same level as the men's league. There are physical disadvantages that women have but the women's game has also become quite skilled and great teamwork + skill in a competitive event is still fun to watch.
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Re: OT: Breanna Stewart signs with New York 

Post#40 » by MrBigShot » Thu Feb 2, 2023 11:04 am

TGW wrote:
infinite11285 wrote:It's unsurprising to see the children embarrassingly stumble over themselves to learn women play professional basketball.

Seriously, grow up.


I know you think the responses are juvenile, but it brings up a good point about the WNBA.

The WNBA has an image and a marketing problem. As someone who grew up watching women's college basketball in the 90's, I could easily identify the female stars during that era. Now, I have no idea who these players are. The product isn't good enough to get me to care, and I think most basketball fans feel that way.


Very much the case. Never watched the WNBA but I knew household names like Diana Taurasi, Sue Bird, Swin Cash ect...
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