Trade Deadline Approaches

[Goldbum]

What about an Achiuwa deal around Nurkic and a Hart deal around Hartenstein +Reddish?
Nurk +Keon +2nd
4
Achiuwa + Boucher

Hart
4
Hartenstein + Reddish
???
Dame
Ant
Grant
Achiuwa
Hartenstein

Reddish,Boucher, GP2,Sharpe,Nas,Winslow,Walker?

I actually really like that team.

[BlazersBroncos]

I dont think TOR is in a position to move a 23 year old for a win-now guy on a 18M AV who is at best a middle tier big.

[wco81]

Wiretap says Blazers will take calls on Grant if he doesn't sign extension.

So take calls as opposed to actively shop?

[PDXKnight]

Wiretap says Blazers will take calls on Grant if he doesn't sign extension.

So take calls as opposed to actively shop?

This leadership has tight lips I don't think anyone knows what portland will do

[DaVoiceMaster]

Listening to the radio today and they said the offer was a formality the Blazers had to do, even though they knew it was a no-go. They think there was some type of handshake deal made at the time of the trade and we will see the new contract this summer. Hoping it's not the $233M max contract only the Blazers can offer.

[BlazersBroncos]

Listening to the radio today and they said the offer was a formality the Blazers had to do, even though they knew it was a no-go. They think there was some type of handshake deal made at the time of the trade and we will see the new contract this summer. Hoping it's not the $233M max contract only the Blazers can offer.

The deal we offered paid him like 28M AV. I think even that is an overpay.

Locking in Ant and Grant as #2 and #3 at the tune of 55M+ per year is a straight shot to perennial mediocracy.

Grant will be the next Tobias is he gets the deal he wants. Toby actually has better AST%, TRB% and near identical if not better defensive metrics over the past few years. Grant basically is only better at the 3 ball, and even that might be an anomaly.

[wco81]

Are the Blazers over the cap or will they be if they retain Grant at over $25 million AAV?

If that happens, the only way to add superstars would be blockbuster trades or hit on some huge talent in the draft. Basically hope that Sharpe becomes a star during his rookie contract and either trade assets for an all-NBA level player or try to get another high pick.

But that's unlikely with a huge payroll, can't see them tanking if they have 3 or more big salaries on the books. Even Nurkic's deal could be considered a big salary.

[Norm2953]

I tend to think the team is going to pay Grant and move out their youth, to try to save the season.

Team will build around Dame/Grant and will trade for the complimentary pieces for they can't
win consistently with three ball dominant players, who don't play hard defense/rebound. Team
will say they are 2-3 wins from the teams in fifth place and doesn't need a rebuild.

[Case2012]

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Any way we move Nurkic now? Injured again right before the deadline... He's like an ex that won't move out.

[BlazersBroncos]

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Any way we move Nurkic now? Injured again right before the deadline... He's like an ex that won't move out.

I dont think he had much of a market before the injury. I think he has Tim Hardaway JR swap type trade value.

If he was a 10M, even 12M guy he would have much more value. He is a nice regular season big, not great but good enough if on a decent team. But he can get run off the floor in the PO's and his overall limitations athletically mean he is best as a minute splitter, regular season even, with a bouncy athlete backup.

Something like Nic Claxton / Jusuf Nurkic center rotation would be really nice IMO, but he is just paid too much to be seen as a 24mpg minute splitter at C.

I dont think he really had value before the injury, now he surely is not tradeable.

[Case2012]

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Any way we move Nurkic now? Injured again right before the deadline... He's like an ex that won't move out.

I dont think he had much of a market before the injury. I think he has Tim Hardaway JR swap type trade value.

If he was a 10M, even 12M guy he would have much more value. He is a nice regular season big, not great but good enough if on a decent team. But he can get run off the floor in the PO's and his overall limitations athletically mean he is best as a minute splitter, regular season even, with a bouncy athlete backup.

Something like Nic Claxton / Jusuf Nurkic center rotation would be really nice IMO, but he is just paid too much to be seen as a 24mpg minute splitter at C.

I dont think he really had value before the injury, now he surely is not tradeable.

I don’t think he had much trade value before either but now I doubt he has any. I would be very Surprised if we traded him before the offseason. If he was a FA this year I doubt he would get more than the vet min. We all knew who bad Nurkic was at finishing but this season he is second to last in FG at the rim for a center, the other is Hartenstien. Combine that with the 4 fouls, lack of rim protection and the constant sulking on the court, i don’t see how anyone would want him for more than 20 minutes a night but who wants to pay someone 18 million a year for the next 3 years for that? I’m terrified of what Cronin will do with Grant and his 21 points 2 rebounds and 1 assist a night. 200 million?

[B0naf1d3]

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Any way we move Nurkic now? Injured again right before the deadline... He's like an ex that won't move out.

I dont think he had much of a market before the injury. I think he has Tim Hardaway JR swap type trade value.

If he was a 10M, even 12M guy he would have much more value. He is a nice regular season big, not great but good enough if on a decent team. But he can get run off the floor in the PO's and his overall limitations athletically mean he is best as a minute splitter, regular season even, with a bouncy athlete backup.

Something like Nic Claxton / Jusuf Nurkic center rotation would be really nice IMO, but he is just paid too much to be seen as a 24mpg minute splitter at C.

I dont think he really had value before the injury, now he surely is not tradeable.

I don’t think he had much trade value before either but now I doubt he has any. I would be very Surprised if we traded him before the offseason. If he was a FA this year I doubt he would get more than the vet min. We all knew who bad Nurkic was at finishing but this season he is second to last in FG at the rim for a center, the other is Hartenstien. Combine that with the 4 fouls, lack of rim protection and the constant sulking on the court, i don’t see how anyone would want him for more than 20 minutes a night but who wants to pay someone 18 million a year for the next 3 years for that? I’m terrified of what Cronin will do with Grant and his 21 points 2 rebounds and 1 assist a night. 200 million?

Market for Nurk has dried up at this point. You are probably limited to Mavs/Clippers/Nets/Knicks/Toronto/Washington? Besides swapping contracts in lateral moves, there is not a lot to get excited about there.

The most effective way to trade Nurk in the next week is by combining his salary with Josh Hart. Most teams need a Josh hart, and contending/playoff teams have to worry about Embid/Jokic. Getting a first round pick, without taking back bad money, should be priority.

Knicks probably present the best option, if they strike out on OG.

Hart + Nurk = Reddish + Hartenstein + Rose + 1st

Nets..

Hart + Nurk = Harris + Mills + Sharpe + 1st

Something along those lines. If you don't have confidence in resigning Hart, you have to trade him. First round picks are more valuable than ever. I like Nurk, he had a good run, but I think the team will be better sooner without him.

[Myth]

I don't have specific trades in mind, but 2 players I am low key hoping we land: John Collins or Wendell Carter Jr. Part of this is because I think these guys are potentially obtainable without giving up Lillard, Grant, or Sharpe, nor unprotecting the Chicago 1st to send out more 1sts. Both Hawks and Magic would probably like a 1st, and maybe a 3rd team can be brought in to take one of our other players for a 1st as part of such a trade. I'd prefer WCJ, but Collins may just be more affordable and he has a chance to return to form after being bought low. This is in contrast to the often discussed trades for players like OG who I think would just too much of an overpay to land.

[BlazersBroncos]

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Any way we move Nurkic now? Injured again right before the deadline... He's like an ex that won't move out.

I dont think he had much of a market before the injury. I think he has Tim Hardaway JR swap type trade value.

If he was a 10M, even 12M guy he would have much more value. He is a nice regular season big, not great but good enough if on a decent team. But he can get run off the floor in the PO's and his overall limitations athletically mean he is best as a minute splitter, regular season even, with a bouncy athlete backup.

Something like Nic Claxton / Jusuf Nurkic center rotation would be really nice IMO, but he is just paid too much to be seen as a 24mpg minute splitter at C.

I dont think he really had value before the injury, now he surely is not tradeable.

I don’t think he had much trade value before either but now I doubt he has any. I would be very Surprised if we traded him before the offseason. If he was a FA this year I doubt he would get more than the vet min. We all knew who bad Nurkic was at finishing but this season he is second to last in FG at the rim for a center, the other is Hartenstien. Combine that with the 4 fouls, lack of rim protection and the constant sulking on the court, i don’t see how anyone would want him for more than 20 minutes a night but who wants to pay someone 18 million a year for the next 3 years for that? I’m terrified of what Cronin will do with Grant and his 21 points 2 rebounds and 1 assist a night. 200 million?

I am pretty down on Nurkic but he is not a vet min guy.

I do wonder how he would play on a team that had a ball movement offense (or really any system, as we don’t appear to have one). You can lose your athleticism but you don’t lose your vision overnight and the days of Jusuf hitting cutters from the high post are long dead. I do think he can be a plus on the right team. He is a full MLE caliber guy IMO.

[The Sebastian Express]

I'd love to see us acquire Wendell Carter Jr and Isaac for Simons+, but i don't know what the + would be and while Magic fans seem pretty open for Simons for Carter they're a bit reluctant to add Isaac. Which is totally understandable.

[BlazersBroncos]

I'd love to see us acquire Wendell Carter Jr and Isaac for Simons+, but i don't know what the + would be and while Magic fans seem pretty open for Simons for Carter they're a bit reluctant to add Isaac. Which is totally understandable.

Thats a move I would love. Simons + Nurkic for WCJ + Issac

Then something like -

PDX OUT - Grant, Hart
PDX IN - Hield, Collins, BOS FRP

ATL OUT - Collins
ATL IN - Hart, CLE FRP

IND OUT - Hield, CLE FRP, BOS FRP
IND IN - Grant

G - Damian Lillard / Gary Payton JR
G - Buddy Hield / Shadeon Sharpe
F - Jonathan Isaac / Nas Little
F - John Collins / Justice Winslow
C - Wendell Carter JR / Drew Eubanks

Punt paying Grant / Hart - buy low on Collins - get a shooter in Buddy who only has a year left as the bridge to SS - improve C athleticism + defense, gamble on the JI unicorn.

[The Sebastian Express]

I don't see in any way Indiana trading first round picks plus Hield for a guy whose contract expires this summer. Especially since they can likely get a first round pick for Hield.

[JasonStern]

Are the Blazers over the cap or will they be if they retain Grant at over $25 million AAV?

If that happens, the only way to add superstars would be blockbuster trades or hit on some huge talent in the draft. Basically hope that Sharpe becomes a star during his rookie contract and either trade assets for an all-NBA level player or try to get another high pick.

But that's unlikely with a huge payroll, can't see them tanking if they have 3 or more big salaries on the books. Even Nurkic's deal could be considered a big salary.

Nobody knows what Cronin plans on doing next season. But I think this board is realistic to know acquiring an all-NBA level player is not happening.

I imagine a lot of what they will do will come down to how the remainder of this season plays out. I doubt they will retain both Grant and Hart, which means an already weak supporting cast will become that much weaker. And if this team is a first round out or worse, I imagine ownership will continue the "do whatever you want with the roster, just don't pay luxury tax" directive.

[MrDollarBills]

Hey Blazers fans, Nets fan here inquiring about Josh Hart. What's the price tag?

I would ask about Nurk, but i didn't realize he was making that much money. We need another perimeter defender and a back up C badly, as you may have noticed after last night's beating we sustained at the hands of Boston.

[JRoy]

Hey Blazers fans, Nets fan here inquiring about Josh Hart. What's the price tag?

I would ask about Nurk, but i didn't realize he was making that much money. We need another perimeter defender and a back up C badly, as you may have noticed after last night's beating we sustained at the hands of Boston.

Howdy.

If the offer doesn’t include near term FRP there is not much on that roster that would be worth moving Hart.