2023 Draft Prospect discussion

[Fairview4Life]

But you seem to think it's a fault to be wrong on draft guys?

He seems to think the exact opposite. He seems to think it's a fault to repeatedly post tedious and arrogant bs about a specific player the team didn't pick, when there's no real evidence you wanted the team to pick the player either.

[God Squad]

For example my early top tier
t1. Wemby/Scoot

t2. B.Miller
Keyonte George
Cam Whitmore
Jarace Walker

Jett Howard ( maybe t3)

I'd be very happy with anyone in T1-2

[ItsDanger]

Good. That's part of the fun of the draft. I'd love to hear his top 5, and yours. But you seem to think it's a fault to be wrong on guys?

I'm like 95% wrong on all basketball predictions. I've pretty much given up after thinking Thomas Robinson was the next big thing.

Oh I'm wrong a lot too lol. But that's part of the fun, because even if you and I are wrong. Someone on here is usually very high on said prospect. Remember Sengun has his fair share of supporters. I saw the production, but his movements (lateral) and measurements made me skeptical. Now I can see how wrong I was about his game and how it'd translate. I still don't think he'll be a defender, but his passing and post game are legit.

Lot of fans like playing armchair GM and trying to predict which prospect is better and what they'd do running the team. It's part of the fun of being a fan.

[Psubs]

Prospects in NCAA are measured in conference play, conference championships, NCAA championship. Conference play typically starts early January.

Therefore, a lot of opinions are formulated by March. Not January, not February. Some may give opinions earlier but season is young and players even younger, they improve throughout the season.

Some of the counter arguments presented on this board are complete BS. Probably never watched a college game in their lives.

I think that's NOT how scouts should view things, since a TEAM can go on a run and make the player look better or worse than they are. Jalen Suggs, once he banked in the 3, I thought, others think he's clutch but I saw that he was just lucky. Christian Laettner! Ed O'Bannon! Mario Chalmers!

[God Squad]

But you seem to think it's a fault to be wrong on draft guys?

He seems to think the exact opposite. He seems to think it's a fault to repeatedly post tedious and arrogant bs about a specific player the team didn't pick, when there's no real evidence you wanted the team to pick the player either.

Are you in the wrong thread? The draft thread is to discuss the prospects you like or dislike. Has nothing to do with who we didn't pick? And there is always evidence of who you wanted to pick, you can literally dig up old posts.

[ItsDanger]

Prospects in NCAA are measured in conference play, conference championships, NCAA championship. Conference play typically starts early January.

Therefore, a lot of opinions are formulated by March. Not January, not February. Some may give opinions earlier but season is young and players even younger, they improve throughout the season.

Some of the counter arguments presented on this board are complete BS. Probably never watched a college game in their lives.

I think that's NOT how scouts should view things, since a TEAM can go on a run and make the player look better or worse than they are. Jalen Suggs, once he banked in the 3, I thought, others think he's clutch but I saw that he was just lucky. Christian Laettner! Ed O'Bannon! Mario Chalmers!

Less so NCAA tournament but look at conference stats vs non conference. Lot of people get too hyped on early production but running the conference gauntlet is a better test. Especially for those still physically and mentally maturing between ages 18-20.

[Fairview4Life]

But you seem to think it's a fault to be wrong on draft guys?

He seems to think the exact opposite. He seems to think it's a fault to repeatedly post tedious and arrogant bs about a specific player the team didn't pick, when there's no real evidence you wanted the team to pick the player either.

Are you in the wrong thread? The draft thread is to discuss the prospects you like or dislike. Has nothing to do with who we didn't pick? And there is always evidence of who you wanted to pick, you can literally dig up old posts.

There was context to his post. He was responding to a specific person.

[Rapsfan07]

For example my early top tier
t1. Wemby/Scoot

t2. B.Miller
Keyonte George
Cam Whitmore
Jarace Walker

Jett Howard ( maybe t3)

I'd be very happy with anyone in T1-2

Yeah this is more or less my tier board as well.

[God Squad]

For example my early top tier
t1. Wemby/Scoot

t2. B.Miller
Keyonte George
Cam Whitmore
Jarace Walker

Jett Howard ( maybe t3)

I'd be very happy with anyone in T1-2

Yeah this is more or less my tier board as well.

Yup. Obviously early and players will likely rise and fall. But that's how I have it ATM, but a lot can change by march as we all know.

[ItsDanger]

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Nice hang time for 300 lbs. Painter his him doing blitz doubles now which appear extremely effective. Also, allowing him to defend guards 1 on 1 a bit. Wonder if he's trying to show scouts something.

[Psubs]

For example my early top tier
t1. Wemby/Scoot

t2. B.Miller
Keyonte George
Cam Whitmore
Jarace Walker

Jett Howard ( maybe t3)

I'd be very happy with anyone in T1-2

With the way the league is going, I'm prioritizing shooting. Look at Killian Hayes, Isaac Okoro, Kuminga, etc; it's hard for players to learn to shoot later on. It happens but not often.

T1 - Wemby / Scoot

T2 - BMiller, Jett Howard, Gradey Dick, Kris Murray

T3 - Whitmore, Wallace, Smith, George, Walker, Black

I think all of those players should be taken before any team gambles on Amen or Ausar.

Late 1st/2nd - Zach Edey, Azoulas Tubelis, Emoni Bates (he's like a tall Bones Hyland or Isaiah Joe)

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[JShuttlesworth]

I just can't get onboard with Bates, he just seems like such a knucklehead to me

[God Squad]

For example my early top tier
t1. Wemby/Scoot

t2. B.Miller
Keyonte George
Cam Whitmore
Jarace Walker

Jett Howard ( maybe t3)

I'd be very happy with anyone in T1-2

With the way the league is going, I'm prioritizing shooting. Look at Killian Hayes, Isaac Okoro, Kuminga, etc; it's hard for players to learn to shoot later on. It happens but not often.

T1 - Wemby / Scoot

T2 - BMiller, Jett Howard, Gradey Dick, Kris Murray

T3 - Whitmore, Wallace, Smith, George, Walker, Black

I think all of those players should be taken before any team gambles on Amen or Ausar.

Late 1st/2nd - Zach Edey, Azoulas Tubelis, Emoni Bates (he's like a tall Bones Hyland or Isaiah Joe)

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Yeah I'm struggling to find a balance with my love for Jett creation/shooting, and his actually production in other categories. Plus his defense. I see and know all the concerns, but can't help but feel he's going to be really good.

I think you have Murray way too high, and George,Walker too low. But totally I understand the concerns for Whitemore though. I haven't dug enough into the second round yet. I'm still trying to get my first round guys in order. But I like both Edey and Tubelis from what I saw. Tubelis in particular with his lefty post moves, and sneaky athletic ability.

[Rapsfan07]

For example my early top tier
t1. Wemby/Scoot

t2. B.Miller
Keyonte George
Cam Whitmore
Jarace Walker

Jett Howard ( maybe t3)

I'd be very happy with anyone in T1-2

With the way the league is going, I'm prioritizing shooting. Look at Killian Hayes, Isaac Okoro, Kuminga, etc; it's hard for players to learn to shoot later on. It happens but not often.

T1 - Wemby / Scoot

T2 - BMiller, Jett Howard, Gradey Dick, Kris Murray

T3 - Whitmore, Wallace, Smith, George, Walker, Black

I think all of those players should be taken before any team gambles on Amen or Ausar.

Late 1st/2nd - Zach Edey, Azoulas Tubelis, Emoni Bates (he's like a tall Bones Hyland or Isaiah Joe)

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If I'm picking in the Top 10, I want more than a spot up role playing shooter in Gradey Dick. I think his ceiling is a Kyle Korver type and that's nice but I want a little more than that if I'm taking him that high. Murray MAY sneak his way into the late lotto as we get closer to March though.

T1 - Wemby/Scoot
T2 - Miller, Whitmore, George, Walker, Murray
T3 - Howard, Dick, Wallace, Smith, Black

[God Squad]

It's looking more and more likely we'll be getting another pick in this draft.

[Kevin Willis]

I can already see the Hornets drafting a Thompson only for him to bust and add it to their pile of failed picks

Y'all want to see a dead body?

https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/CHA/draft.html

That SGA trade is heart-wrenching. They have to be the worse drafting team in the league.

That was gross.

[Psubs]

Y'all want to see a dead body?

https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/CHA/draft.html

That SGA trade is heart-wrenching. They have to be the worse drafting team in the league.

That was gross.

#8 Rex Chapman - ok
#5 JR Reid - missed out on #4 Glenn Rice (need to tank better)
#5 Kendall Gill - ok
#1 Larry Johnson - Nice! But later trade him for Anthony Mason (who wasn't bad but meh trade)
#2 Zo - Nice (but traded him for Glenn Rice)
1993-1995 they were decent to no lottery picks
1996... Kobe Bryant traded for Vlade Divac Though Kobe said he wanted to be traded to the Lakers.

[Bruin]

Feel like Masai would have Miller 3rd on his board after Wemby and Scoot. Miller would fit the 6’9 versatility vision while also bringing shooting/scoring

[Kevin Willis]

That SGA trade is heart-wrenching. They have to be the worse drafting team in the league.

That was gross.

#8 Rex Chapman - ok
#5 JR Reid - missed out on #4 Glenn Rice (need to tank better)
#5 Kendall Gill - ok
#1 Larry Johnson - Nice! But later trade him for Anthony Mason (who wasn't bad but meh trade)
#2 Zo - Nice (but traded him for Glenn Rice)
1993-1995 they were decent to no lottery picks
1996... Kobe Bryant traded for Vlade Divac Though Kobe said he wanted to be traded to the Lakers.

[Mark_83]

Good. That's part of the fun of the draft. I'd love to hear his top 5, and yours. But you seem to think it's a fault to be wrong on guys?

I'm like 95% wrong on all basketball predictions. I've pretty much given up after thinking Thomas Robinson was the next big thing.

Oh I'm wrong a lot too lol. But that's part of the fun, because even if you and I are wrong. Someone on here is usually very high on said prospect. Remember Sengun has his fair share of supporters. I saw the production, but his movements (lateral) and measurements made me skeptical. Now I can see how wrong I was about his game and how it'd translate. I still don't think he'll be a defender, but his passing and post game are legit.

Here's a question for ya'll: Who were your 3 biggest hits, and your 3 biggest misses (with receipts)?

Probably my biggest hit was Giannis but I have to see if I can find the post. Biggest miss probably Siakam. I hated the pick with a vengeance, and I was way wrong. The receipts from that draft are infamous haha.