Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread II

[traps#10]

Masai creating a bidding war ala Carmelo

Have to accept OG is gone. They shut him down until deadline on purpose.

Can’t believe one of you predicted that it would be OG’s last game when he went down against GSW

[SurgeIblocka]

Feels like they’re trending into a pretty big rebuild - one that we haven’t seen here in quite a while.

I don’t think Siakam gets moved this deadline, which is the right call. You can rest him, keep him fresh, and then if you luck into an impact guy in the draft (Scoot, Victor) your rebuild timeline speeds up quite a bit and he’s a good fit for that team with Barnes, Achiuwa, and whatever else they add.

OG is probably getting moved and now is the right time. It’s pretty clear his value is extremely high and he wants out (which hasn’t hurt his value because he’s locked up for another year and a half). They’re going to get a good package of picks and young players because the market is so hot for him. Fred is probably gone too. Again, there’s a good market for him right now and I don’t think they want to pay him. I don’t think Gary is moved, which is kind of an upset but he seems to be a cultural fit better than the other two and I think they’re okay giving him a good contract because of his age.

It’s kinda clear and obvious now that they want to clear out some of the locker room culture issues - the root of which
seems to be an issue between OG and Fred.

Damn Fred with his ball hogging ways is making us lose OG who I would have loved to keep if he wanted to stay. This just shows you how important it is to get rid of Fred. If he stays he will be pissing off Barnes and other players we have or draft. Fred should be the first to be traded.

[PhilBlackson]

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Hell yeah…bring Dyson & Murphy home!

[traps#10]

Feels like they’re trending into a pretty big rebuild - one that we haven’t seen here in quite a while.

I don’t think Siakam gets moved this deadline, which is the right call. You can rest him, keep him fresh, and then if you luck into an impact guy in the draft (Scoot, Victor) your rebuild timeline speeds up quite a bit and he’s a good fit for that team with Barnes, Achiuwa, and whatever else they add.

OG is probably getting moved and now is the right time. It’s pretty clear his value is extremely high and he wants out (which hasn’t hurt his value because he’s locked up for another year and a half). They’re going to get a good package of picks and young players because the market is so hot for him. Fred is probably gone too. Again, there’s a good market for him right now and I don’t think they want to pay him. I don’t think Gary is moved, which is kind of an upset but he seems to be a cultural fit better than the other two and I think they’re okay giving him a good contract because of his age.

It’s kinda clear and obvious now that they want to clear out some of the locker room culture issues - the root of which
seems to be an issue between OG and Fred.

Damn Fred with his ball hogging ways os making us lose OG who I would have loved to keep if he wanted to stay. This just shows you how important it is to get rid of Fred. If he stays he will be pissing off Barnes and other players we have or draft. Fred should be the first to be traded.

Imagine drafting Wembly and having FVV “son” him and take away his shots and development possessions?

[SurgeIblocka]

Feels like they’re trending into a pretty big rebuild - one that we haven’t seen here in quite a while.

I don’t think Siakam gets moved this deadline, which is the right call. You can rest him, keep him fresh, and then if you luck into an impact guy in the draft (Scoot, Victor) your rebuild timeline speeds up quite a bit and he’s a good fit for that team with Barnes, Achiuwa, and whatever else they add.

OG is probably getting moved and now is the right time. It’s pretty clear his value is extremely high and he wants out (which hasn’t hurt his value because he’s locked up for another year and a half). They’re going to get a good package of picks and young players because the market is so hot for him. Fred is probably gone too. Again, there’s a good market for him right now and I don’t think they want to pay him. I don’t think Gary is moved, which is kind of an upset but he seems to be a cultural fit better than the other two and I think they’re okay giving him a good contract because of his age.

It’s kinda clear and obvious now that they want to clear out some of the locker room culture issues - the root of which
seems to be an issue between OG and Fred.

Damn Fred with his ball hogging ways os making us lose OG who I would have loved to keep if he wanted to stay. This just shows you how important it is to get rid of Fred. If he stays he will be pissing off Barnes and other players we have or draft. Fred should be the first to be traded.

Imagine drafting Wembly and having FVV “son” him and take away his shots and developing possessions?

Both Fred and Nurse are terrible for any developing players we have

[WuTang_CMB]

Masai creating a bidding war ala Carmelo

Have to accept OG is gone. They shut him down until deadline on purpose.

Can’t believe one of you predicted that it would be OG’s last game when he went down against GSW

Wasnt me ... I just mentioned Nurse's admittance that he thought OG was only game to game.

[Oakvillehoops]

The perk to tanking and trading away everyone now, is that we would get so much for the combination of OG, FVV and Siakam, plus our lottery pick; that there would be zero excuse not to be a playoff team again next year. Even with young guys and a few rookies

[mtcan]

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Hell yeah…bring Dyson & Murphy home!

Dyson Daniels, Trey Murphy, Devonte Graham and future 1st round pick would be the ideal trade.

I bet we end up with one of Murphy or Daniels along with Jaxon Hayes and Devonte Graham and a FRP.

[traps#10]

Damn Fred with his ball hogging ways os making us lose OG who I would have loved to keep if he wanted to stay. This just shows you how important it is to get rid of Fred. If he stays he will be pissing off Barnes and other players we have or draft. Fred should be the first to be traded.

Imagine drafting Wembly and having FVV “son” him and take away his shots and developing possessions?

Both Fred and Nurse are terrible for any developing players we have

To Nurse’s credit, he’s a win-now type of coach. He prioritize winning over anything else. That’s the main reason why he plays his starters and “core vets” unnecessary heavy minutes to try to get the win. If you trade away the vets , he would have no choice but to play whoever he has left.

[SurgeIblocka]

Fred’s selfish attitude has permeated through the entire team. Everyone has become selfish because our floor general and coach are selfish. Fred playing for his next bag, Nurse coaching for his next contract and only concerned about winning and not developing

[GM89]

Hopefully the plan is to surround Barnes and Siakam with decent 3nD shooters. Post presence would be nice but one of our biggest weaknesses is shooting off the bench. We get a few solid support pieces off the bench and the starting unit would no longer need to play 40+ minutes just to have a shot at winning.

[traps#10]

Masai creating a bidding war ala Carmelo

Have to accept OG is gone. They shut him down until deadline on purpose.

Can’t believe one of you predicted that it would be OG’s last game when he went down against GSW

Wasnt me ... I just mentioned Nurse's admittance that he thought OG was only game to game.

I remember reading it during the Game Thread, not sure if it was written half jokingly but it seems to be coming true now.

[Oakvillehoops]

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Hell yeah…bring Dyson & Murphy home!

Dyson Daniels, Trey Murphy, Devonte Graham and future 1st round pick would be the ideal trade.

I bet we end up with one of Murphy or Daniels along with Jaxon Hayes and Devonte Graham and a FRP.

This would be a good return, we definitely need young players more then draft picks.

Good young players we can be winning again next year. Draft picks will take too long to turn into results

[Madvillainy2004]

Fred and Pascal are better than OG, is one reason. But, I think trading two of OG/Fred/Trent is the best play here. You trade high on a malcontent and get what you can for a UFA who is about to get a raise. Pascal is golden. Hard to get equivalent talent back in trades of players of that stature.

This also isn't a Fred/Pascal or OG thing it's a "OG is unhappy here and wants a new team/situation" may as well get the max value for him. The team trading for him gets a full season and 2 playoff runs before he has to re-sign.

What’s the end game? We aren’t contending with Pascal and FVV and we are nowhere close to it. So we are now just fulfilling player’s wishes if they’re not happy with their role here? Yes let’s sign FVV to whatever he deems his value is, let Pascal and FVV lead us to the promise land…

Nobody has said Fred will be re-signed or that Pascal can't be moved at a later date (offseason makes more sense cause he has such a big contract). OG probably wants out regardless sometimes players just aren't happy with a situation. Could be Fred, could be Pascal could be coaching. Aside from Pascal he's the best asset to move at this present time considering the parity of the league and how valuable his skill set is. I don't think trading Fred or Pascal would guarantee OG wouldn't still leave or want out anyways. So if you get an amazing return for him you should pull the trigger.

[traps#10]

Fred’s selfish attitude has permeated through the entire team. Everyone has become selfish because our floor general and coach are selfish. Fred playing for his next bag, Nurse coaching for his next contract and only concerned about winning and not developing

That’s why FO should have a sit down with Nurse and tell him what kind of coach they want him to be. If he still priorities winning over developing, then FO should get rid of all the vets so Nurse would be forced to play his younger guys still on the team.

[StopitLeo]

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This is great if true.

I think NOP has more assets that they can afford to trade than MEM.

[Swag]

If we're going to trade OG, I think we should do it during the summer.

We trade Fred now - get some assets.
Maybe move GTJ - get some more assets (although I'd prefer to keep him).

Than revisit the OG / Pascal situation during the summer.

[SurgeIblocka]

We better be getting 3 pt shooting back because losing Fred and OG, we would probably have the worst 3pt shooting team of all time.

[traps#10]

This also isn't a Fred/Pascal or OG thing it's a "OG is unhappy here and wants a new team/situation" may as well get the max value for him. The team trading for him gets a full season and 2 playoff runs before he has to re-sign.

What’s the end game? We aren’t contending with Pascal and FVV and we are nowhere close to it. So we are now just fulfilling player’s wishes if they’re not happy with their role here? Yes let’s sign FVV to whatever he deems his value is, let Pascal and FVV lead us to the promise land…

Nobody has said Fred will be re-signed or that Pascal can't be moved at a later date (offseason makes more sense cause he has such a big contract). OG probably wants out regardless sometimes players just aren't happy with a situation. Could be Fred, could be Pascal could be coaching. Aside from Pascal he's the best asset to move at this present time considering the parity of the league and how valuable his skill set is. I don't think trading Fred or Pascal would guarantee OG wouldn't still leave or want out anyways. So if you get an amazing return for him you should pull the trigger.

Yet we have ppl defending FVV with his stat lines saying he’s not the issue. Team chemistry and spirit is broken, FVV is deemed as one of the leaders yet people say it’s not on him.

[anotherhomer]

Feels like they’re trending into a pretty big rebuild - one that we haven’t seen here in quite a while.

I don’t think Siakam gets moved this deadline, which is the right call. You can rest him, keep him fresh, and then if you luck into an impact guy in the draft (Scoot, Victor) your rebuild timeline speeds up quite a bit and he’s a good fit for that team with Barnes, Achiuwa, and whatever else they add.

OG is probably getting moved and now is the right time. It’s pretty clear his value is extremely high and he wants out (which hasn’t hurt his value because he’s locked up for another year and a half). They’re going to get a good package of picks and young players because the market is so hot for him. Fred is probably gone too. Again, there’s a good market for him right now and I don’t think they want to pay him. I don’t think Gary is moved, which is kind of an upset but he seems to be a cultural fit better than the other two and I think they’re okay giving him a good contract because of his age.

It’s kinda clear and obvious now that they want to clear out some of the locker room culture issues - the root of which seems to be an issue between OG and Fred.

that is a pretty good takeaway

The biggest thing for FVV, is that he's blocking Scottie's development, as he's relegating Scottie often to a dunker spot

As FVV can be really ball dominant....
The team needs willing off-ball shooters/finishers around Scottie

As for OG, i think he can be a good fit but it seems like it's best we move on from him, due to his physical style of play, the contract we will be paying him, and his desire for a change of scenery