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Re: Quick stat snapshot of where the Sixers are after 3 games 

Post#461 » by Murray_17 » Wed Feb 1, 2023 2:22 am

LeonJordanJr24 wrote:
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LeonJordanJr24 wrote:Questions should we trade Shake to get a return instead of losing him via free agency ? Korkmaz,Harrell and Reed need to be turned into Andre Drummond .. also another long athletic wing won't hurt. We need that.



????

Drummond makes the salary of Niang.



Trading Niang is a Drummond idea



?????

:-?

Are you saying Drummond came with that idea? also, the point is why you would need to trade those 3 players to get Drummond when Niang alone matches salary.

Also, Niang is a lot more valuable than Drummond
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Re: Quick stat snapshot of where the Sixers are after 3 games 

Post#462 » by Negrodamus » Wed Feb 1, 2023 2:37 am

Why do we want Drummond again? Any other reason besides he played here before and was…. fine?
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Re: Quick stat snapshot of where the Sixers are after 3 games 

Post#463 » by Kobblehead » Wed Feb 1, 2023 2:42 am

How many playoff mpg are available for another backup C?

Seems like a pointless acquisition. Especially if we have to surrender assets to acquire.

If you can't find a playoff rotation upgrade over Milton or Niang, then just sign a buyout guy for the rest of the regular season.
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Re: Quick stat snapshot of where the Sixers are after 3 games 

Post#464 » by Mik317 » Wed Feb 1, 2023 2:11 pm

Drummond isn't exactly playable in the playoffs either.

Of the names mentioned in various articles, Vanderbilt is the name I'd chase

but I also think Utah can get more for him than we can offer soooooo.

Honestly if Doc would simply NOT play Trez...10 minutes of BBall Paul isn't going hurt anyone. Just go small with Tucker in the Harden show hours if thats the hold up
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Re: Quick stat snapshot of where the Sixers are after 3 games 

Post#465 » by HCL » Wed Feb 1, 2023 6:10 pm

20 out of our last 25, I think we can play with anyone in a series. Might need a bigger back up C/PF for 15 minutes a game that is athletic.
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Re: Quick stat snapshot of where the Sixers are after 3 games 

Post#466 » by SixthStreet » Wed Feb 1, 2023 8:05 pm

Tucker should be the playoff backup 5. I’m convinced Harrell is here to soak up regular season minutes.
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Re: Quick stat snapshot of where the Sixers are after 3 games 

Post#467 » by Jhawk03 » Thu Feb 2, 2023 8:42 am

Will somebody PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF ALL change the thread title or lock
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Re: Quick stat snapshot of where the Sixers are after 3 games 

Post#468 » by 76ciology » Thu Feb 2, 2023 10:57 am

HCL wrote:20 out of our last 25, I think we can play with anyone in a series. Might need a bigger back up C/PF for 15 minutes a game that is athletic.


The problem I see is if Biid is in foul trouble or when he plays like one of those spiritually absent games.
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Re: Quick stat snapshot of where the Sixers are after 3 games 

Post#469 » by FireMorey » Thu Feb 2, 2023 4:18 pm

When you are a tax team and your current center is on a super max deal, you aren't going to get a top level backup center. They do this every year. The drop off from Embiid to the next guy is going to be substantial because MVP is an MVP player. How about put resources into other parts of your roster instead of cycling out backup centers every year.

But if they do get a backup center he should be defensive oriented.
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Re: Quick stat snapshot of where the Sixers are after 3 games 

Post#470 » by Mik317 » Thu Feb 2, 2023 5:13 pm

yes I agree

however the issue isn't that there is a drop off but said back up center is often the worst player on the team and in DJ's case..the league lol.

Again I am not asking for a world beater...just a guy who brings something to the table.

Trez is undersized, doesn't stretch the floor, doesn't protect the rim, and doesn't even get those hustle rebounds anymore. He is good for a few struggle dunks and setting solid screens for Harden.

I'd rather not give up assets for Drummond but he would at least help the rebounding and give us some size. He is also probably a liability in the playoffs but only for when teams go small...in which we can now match with PJ. Thats an upgrade.

Again it goes back to signing Trez in the first place. It was dumb then. Should have kept Bassey...who may not even be good lol, and use the washed up vet role for someone who actually brings a skillset we need.

That being said...I am more interested in getting another wing or POA defender than solving the back up big spot. Just go small if Doc/Harden doesn't trust Reed...**** it.
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Post#471 » by FireMorey » Thu Feb 2, 2023 7:04 pm

That's why Morey needs to get called out. He's the boss, yet he keeps capitulating to the guys Doc Rivers wants, when they keep not working out. Either that or Morey legitimately wanted Jordan or Harrell... which if he did, good grief he's beyond washed as a GM.

He's enabling other centers playing over Reed by signing other guys. If he didn't give Rivers the option, he'd have to play Paul Reed. So Morey is ultimately to blame for this.
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Re: Quick stat snapshot of where the Sixers are after 3 games 

Post#472 » by Jailblazers7 » Thu Feb 2, 2023 8:09 pm

I think Harrell was the cost of doing business with Harden. He clearly accepted a pay cut under certain conditions and PJ, House, and Harrell were those conditions. Harden got hurt…Reed started getting play time. Harden came back…Reed became firmly glued to the bench.

Not ideal to have a weird combo of players, coach, and GM making roster/rotation decisions but that’s just the modern NBA.
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Re: Quick stat snapshot of where the Sixers are after 3 games 

Post#473 » by Jay555 » Thu Feb 2, 2023 8:24 pm

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Re: Quick stat snapshot of where the Sixers are after 3 games 

Post#474 » by Zumramania » Thu Feb 2, 2023 10:40 pm

Jailblazers7 wrote:I think Harrell was the cost of doing business with Harden. He clearly accepted a pay cut under certain conditions and PJ, House, and Harrell were those conditions. Harden got hurt…Reed started getting play time. Harden came back…Reed became firmly glued to the bench.

Not ideal to have a weird combo of players, coach, and GM making roster/rotation decisions but that’s just the modern NBA.


Could you name any other team that made it to the Finals in the last few years that had such stuff going on?

I somehow think that Harden is too smart not to see that his buddy Harrell sucks come playoff time. But then again, Deandre Jordan was a starter last year against Miami and Harden didn't complain...
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Re: Quick stat snapshot of where the Sixers are after 3 games 

Post#475 » by Jailblazers7 » Fri Feb 3, 2023 12:21 am

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Jailblazers7 wrote:I think Harrell was the cost of doing business with Harden. He clearly accepted a pay cut under certain conditions and PJ, House, and Harrell were those conditions. Harden got hurt…Reed started getting play time. Harden came back…Reed became firmly glued to the bench.

Not ideal to have a weird combo of players, coach, and GM making roster/rotation decisions but that’s just the modern NBA.


Could you name any other team that made it to the Finals in the last few years that had such stuff going on?

I somehow think that Harden is too smart not to see that his buddy Harrell sucks come playoff time. But then again, Deandre Jordan was a starter last year against Miami and Harden didn't complain...


Lebron went to 8 finals in a row making dumb end of bench roster decisions lol

But peak Lebron can get away with stuff that nobody else could
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Re: Quick stat snapshot of where the Sixers are after 3 games 

Post#476 » by 76ciology » Sat Feb 11, 2023 4:04 am

Would you rather have a strong bench play but risk being 3rd seed over an average bench play and secure the 2nd seed?

you need a strong bench play to..

- not lose leads that decreases close games
- increase your wins in playoffs

And trying to develop a strong bench play doesn’t necessarily mean we’re not gonna get the second seed.

All these is why we lose in the last two games.

I think Maxey will determine our success on this exercise. He’s the Alpha of our bench.
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Post#477 » by 76ciology » Sat Feb 11, 2023 4:20 am

George Niang is actually a good defender. Thats why he’s also been closing games.

Scorers shot well below average when he’s challenging their shots.

Defense is 5 pts better per 100 possessions with Niang on vs off court. (107 vs 112)
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Re: Quick stat snapshot of where the Sixers are after 3 games 

Post#478 » by 76ciology » Sat Feb 11, 2023 5:33 am

A lot of our team’s success hinges on Maxey. Morey talked about that during the offseason.

If Maxey can be good off the bench, we’ll make it past the second round and he will be a Sixer next year.

If Maxey can’t be that 20ppg player for us, we wont make it past the second round and I dont expect him to be a Sixer next year.
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Re: Quick stat snapshot of where the Sixers are after 3 games 

Post#479 » by 76ciology » Sat Feb 11, 2023 5:38 am

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We just need consistency from these 3.
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